Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

The one part I don't understand is why not just keep Coleman and cut Dean? There are rumors the Bills plan to sign Mutterlan after game 1 to avoid paying the full year salary I get that concept, but in this case if they are signing Coleman back on Monday nothing gained there so why not just keep him? Are they that much afraid that another team will sign Marlowe but by Monday the interest will have died down? If that were the case with the rumors already out there I'd just hold one extra slot on my PS open until the Bills do release him.

Well that's total BS so who knows if anything else stated is true? Johnson played decent and left the field with the team ahead. Flutie did not have a good season that year at all, they won in spite of him, not becasue of him. The first year he was here and started, he played great. But after about 10 to 12 games defenses figured him out and the 2nd year, he was OK, but nothing special. I'll grant you he was very good at one thing, deflecting blame. When ever he was questioned about anything in post game press conference about his performance, he'd turn the question around to something else. Great way to push the blame elsewhere without ever being accused of pointing fingers.

Damm, When I look at that list of players, as recently as two years ago, there were a number I would have killed to have got on my fantasy team. How quickly the mighty have fallen!

Heard he got kicked in the ding ***** Damm can't believe that's another bad word.

So how exactly does the whole waiver thing work? If I remember correctly, vets with more than is it 3 years in the league who are cut today are immediate free agents, less than 3 years you go through waivers. Does it also mean the 2nd a team makes a waiver claim, they need to release someone to stay at 53? So say the Giants who are above the Bills in the waiver order can't claim a punter who was released, try him out, then decide to cut their present one or release the one they just claimed? They'd likely as soon as they make the claim, release their current punter or someone else on the roster?

Well if McCoy said it, must be true, case closed.

Kind of glad we didn't get Clowney as Carroll is kind of a snake players coach, reminds me somewhat of Rex except he actually has won. So did Clowney want to go to Seattle because he knows it's Club Med out there? I also do think while Carroll did win, he's on a downward fall last couple of years and will be very happy to see it continue.

Maybe he's just not all that good! He's a guy who got cut three years ago and couldn't make an NFL roster since. You can easily make the argument they should have kept him instead of McKenzie, or many will even say Zay, but the problem is you're really comparing a car with a dent on the left side against one on the right side, none are great. While overall I do feel our receiving group is much improved since last year, even our #1 guy I guess it's John Brown is maybe ranked in the mid 20's compared to other teams. Point is our WR top to bottom still aren't great, that's an area likely next year will work on improving, so no need to keep someone here who's not really that good to in turn cut another lineman or LB instead. You want the best 53 overall. It does appear that the legend of Kiko has been surpassed by the legend of Duke! At least Kiko did play a year. And he did save 10 people from falling over Niagara Falls.

But that can work both ways in that other teammates see this guy isn't producing, why is he still here? Like the jokes about Vlad having bad pics of Beane so he kept his job. It's no different that most work environments. "Hey boss I heard there may be a layoff?" "Nope no truth to that rumor" Next day, layoffs announced. My point being players get it. And also maybe he wasn't the locker room leader that he tended to be made out to be.

I'd say yes as that looks alot like Andrew Luck!

You lost me when you stated we had this in Sammy!! And Woods was a FA, could go wherever he wanted. Rumors were he wanted to go to a west coast team so he did.

I think that's just someone trying to connect the dots without any real knowledge. Does it make sense, yes, could it happen, agai nyes. But their plan is risky as he may sign with another team prior to week 1 too.

She is until he gets cut. Who'd want to date some unemployed loser!

Yes, though I thought they would have traded McCoy rather than cut him. But as many pointed out the contract prevented that. I wasn't very impressed with what he'd done this spring/summer and made a ton of money. And they drafted Devin.

When I look at this list, the one that surprises me the most is the Captain!

As someone else stated yesterday. "Folks on this site tend to way overvalue marginal players" i.e. Duke Williams, Eddie Yarbourgh, etc.

The high price tag and also teams will sometimes with an established vet with very low trade value to begin with, will just release the to allow him to go where ever he desires. He's "earned that right" so to speak.

So guess I actually got the A, you got the zero!

Or sometimes with a established vet, if there was fairly low trade value to begin with, i.e. a 6th rounder, they give him a release to allow him to go wherever he wants. He's "earned that"

Yeah I was never a huge fan of Butler. His problem was he was a great scout, loved every football player he ever say and would too easily agree to pay them whatever they wanted. Admittedly we were in the early years of free agency and salary cap so was still a learning process, but he seemed to take much longer to figure it out.

Kind of ironic he was just mentioned in a story today in the Athletic about players who were cut from their initial teams. Article was written well before he died.

Do have to wonder if Houston won't talk to use because of the Gaine situation? McCoy and Zay for Clowney!

LOL Kind of a misleading title as who know where it's path is anymore. Relatives in Florida were debating coming up to us to evacuate. Now we're more in the path and we may want to head to Florida.

How many good FA are you going to find that don't have an injury history? If not injury, then it's some other issue, looming 2nd drug suspension, head case, other. Typically that's why they are a FA. If none of these issues existed, they likely never would have been a FA. Appears the plan is you take a chance on some of these guys short term until you can draft their eventual replacement. But you can't fill all of them in 2 or even 3 seasons via the draft. So you take some gambles on guys with one of the things mentioned above. And injuries are probably the easiest to deal with in some ways compared to head case, or drugs. As far as Murphy goes besides the blown out knee and likely the after effects yet last seaosn, how many other injuries has he had? I looked up his record and didn't see many other injuries.

Yeah personally I'd take Yarbourgh over Duke Williams myself. But everyone here is in love with him. Reality is if they keep 6 or 7 WR's at a minimum one, maybe even two will not be active on game days. Actually I think Foster may find himself inactive many games as he's basically a clone for Brown and doesn't really bring anything special where as Duke has size, McKenzie can do many things. Likely the same can be said for the DL too if they keep 9, one will not be active barring injury. What it likely will come down to is who do they feel has more potential Duke or Eddie, or someone else no one has thought about?