Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I'm not sure I totally buy that. I'm sure they beat him over the head about the Ints. to the point he's over compensating. Seems like he's got to overly sensitive to it. He pretty much came right out and stated them himself on Sunday.

I was talking with someone at work today. Did anyone as a kid playing two hand touch ever use the rule "He cut the string"? If a guy ran between the QB and the center and the ball for any reason hit the ground, it's a live ball. That would take all the debate out of this!

I'd give Gore one more week. Plus this week, the running game overall was very poor.

He's improves his accuracy from last season, so no reason to believe it can't get better yet. Give him better receivers overall would likely improve some right there. TT, EJ, and Losman, who of them have an arm like Allen? Maybe Losman was the only one who'd come close. Think it was Virgil's post yesterday where he commented how in past years; holding call on 1st down, now 1st and 20, forget it, might as well bring the punting team out on 2nd down. Now Allen can get those yards back and he has done it.

I think Lee Smith does serve one large purpose. He's a very good blocking TE, (minus the penalties) He's a good resource for two rookie TE's to lean on for help. Likely not needed next season as Knox has developed somewhat faster than expected.

One other thing they have in common that you didn't mention is limited talent. When you're lacking there, hard to play differently. Its easier to build a defense first when you have limited resources i.e. money to spend as players top to bottom are overall cheaper. Plus I think a tema with limitations would have an easier time to win a few games by a score of 13-7 or 17-13, than 38-34 or some other high scoring outcome.

Go back and look at the stats in those games, they are credited as passes. I know because I looked closely as one of those affected my fantasy results.

Yes they did but most likely the waste of time had nothing to do with him, likely was either on Daboll or Allen. Yes the buck stops with him but doesn't mean he authorized it.

Lets get this straight, you're an idiot! As soon as you state "it was McD's directive" you become a complete idiot. You can question why they wasted time, but highly doubt that's what he told them to do and it's something only an idiot would think of!

For the record of the four you mention, only Thurman Thomas was drafted when Polian was the GM. He wasn't even here when Kelly was drafted, and was like the assistant GM or something when Reed and Smith were drafted. Who knows how much input he did or didn't have into drafting them two. Al Gore hadn't yet invented the internet, so we'll never know. Other than Gilmore, it's a stretch calling the other three stars!

100% agree with you, but not sure if it's something you can change mid season ether now. If you try and change now I think you may be adding more confusion to him as to what to do and when. The offense around him is also rather limited so would rather see them change their thinking when he has a better team around him. That doesn't help the crowd who thinks we can make a deep run this year, but think they are dreaming anyway. Even if Josh opens it up, overall not enough talent on the offensive side. They still need either a true #1 WR or another top level 1A, a 10 year younger version of Frank Gore to compliment Singletary, and a tackle. And on defense, an elite pass rusher, plus CB help for Levi or maybe he'll be much improved with another year under his belt. He has still played less than a full seaso nof games himself.

As to the deep ball misses, if you read one of Allen's post game quotes, he stated something to the effect: " I may be too worried about under throwing and getting an INT" I think overall that may be the issue. He's a gunslinger and always will be, but they've beaten into him about reducing the turnovers to the point he's too nervous. As was stated his 10 to 15 yard throws many of them were ropes, but overall he's playing scared and afraid to just play.

Agree overall!! The other issue was there was only 22 seconds left. Assuming they go for it and make it, there's likely 16 to 18 seconds left, if the play ends in bounds you'd have to take your last TO, then you take a chance if you run another play it has to end OB or may end up up with the clock running out. Granted it may have been a 5 to 7 yard shorter kick, but still overall I agree with the kick then too. Overall agree, people have got too giddy over the 4-1, 6-2 start and thinking we can win 10 to 11 games. The offense has put some of the pieces in place to be better but still needs work. What has become a the main TE and RB are rookies, the QB has played in 20 games total and was a guy when taken, the comment was will need time to develop. Look at Cleveland's WR, they have a legit #1 and a 1A We have a legit 1A, add a second 1A may be fine as opposed to a true #1, but either way besides Beasley and Brown, and Roberts for ST, the WR's don't scare anyone. How's it looking lately that they got rid of Zay, haven't heard much from that crowd lately? The line is still at least one legit top level player away from being good. The simple answer may be they need a RT, let Spain walk and move Ford to guard. But am beginning to think it best to move Dawkins to RT and get a true LT. Trouble with that they are harder to find.

I vote for A too. They call that the blind side as far as rushing the passer for a reason. To a lesser extent it's also the blind side for receivers too. Granted the QB knows there should be a guy out there and would tend to look, but still tougher when you have the guy bearing down. It's a relatively short pas, cant float it, so he may be worried about the rusher getting a hand on it too and knocking it down.

Did Kroft play today? Wondering if the foot is still bothering him or something??

I think the problem in a nutshell is not enough talent. There was a column in BN today about how the Bills are ahead of schedule by some amount and they are beating the teams they should beat. You certainly could argue that would mean a 6-2 team should beat a 2-6 team. However as many stories and comments that the Bills are the worst 6-2, you could also say the Brown are the best 2-6 team. They lost today to a team that was projected to go deep into the playoffs with more talent. And that to me is the problem, limited talent. The 6-2 start has everyone excited however they are still likely a year away mainly on offense and pass rush.

How many times was Cleveland in Allen's face immediately? Maybe Allen needs to recognize that better, but he's still relatively inexperienced. Think the O-line is still one good stud away from not hurting the team overall. They also are a long way from having a top level WR core. Brown and Beasley are keepers and probably Roberts for his ST play, but the rest need a big improvement from.

But was that on the coaching or on Allen for not moving faster. And in Allen's case simple lack of experience.

Is it coaching or lack of overall talent? How many times was Cleveland in Allens face? Maybe he needs to better recognize that and get rid of it faster, but those are the types of things that take time to learn, not 1.5 seasons. Or maybe the issue is the line while better than last season, still isn't good enough. Don't think you need a total rebuild, but they are at least one good lineman away from being able to hold the other team put consistently. Cleveland has a legit #1 WR and a 1A Buffalo has a 1A and that's about it on top of that 2 rookie TE's one who's looking pretty good, but will also needs more time. Did Kroft play at all today? Wonder if there's still issues with the foot.

It was an obvious forward pass, as mentioned same play that the Bills often run to McKenzie. Normally though the receiver is spaced a littler further forward so more obvious. Since he was so close the arm did go forward but didn't need to go forward very much as the guy was so close, kind of in shot put motion. Probably one of the most ugly attempts I've sen of that play, but it was the correct call. I'd go as far to say if you want to argue that was fumble, then the play by Allen maybe in the 2nd quarter where the arm got hit as he threw was also a fumble. If you're not wearing Bills goggles, then you need to have your eyes checked.

Do you mean he connected on 5 or only threw 5?

So are you going to tell us what it was suppose to have said?

Agree forgot about the SF Rams game, that likely will be the late one.

Likely will become the featured 1:00 game that most of the neutral county gets. I do think the Bills NE game gets moved to Saturday, maybe the night game? There's five games listed for Sunday, however three of the five listed are getting moved to Saturday. The Bills-NE game is one of the most attractive of the five

I was using the word "collusion" in a somewhat joking manner only because you hear it some much these days in sports and government these days. 20 years ago, don't recall ever hearing that word. Hadn't seen that article, interesting if true. Assuming it's true, I wonder why they didn't just make the rule in effect for the playoffs only. There are other rules like OT rules that differ between regular season and playoffs.