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What about on Thursday?

I don't think it's going to happen that quickly or that cheaply. Shaq and Jordan got decent contracts from other teams, but nothing like what Edmunds got in Chicago. If it doesn't work out in Chicago, another team will still pay a good amount for him based on his attributes, thinking they can make it work there. Maybe that team will be us. But it's not going to be a Phillips or Lawson situation where he comes back for pennies without competition from other teams.

I mean, it's all good to have hopes and wants. But I really think you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you honestly think Kirksey is going to Start Week 1. He's coming off injury, didn't have any offseason, needs to learn the playbook, and is coming to a new team with a coach that is notoriously slow when it comes to bringing new players along. Is it likely Bernard and Dodson will under perform and lead McDermott to start Kirksey in the future? Yes. Week 1 though? I wouldn't hold my breath. And as far as game planning goes, the Jets are going to run the same offense and plays regardless of whether it's Dodson, Bernard, or Kirksey.

Not surprising there's no AJ Klein. The plan was to evaluate Bernard and Dodson this season (Bernard in particular) and use Klein as a steady veteran safety valve if there were a problem. With Bernard missing all of the Pre-Season and Dodson performing poorly, they felt they needed a better veteran presence and a player they could count on more. So they got Christian Kirksey. This made Klein expendable.

Exactly this. Matt Milano is an All Pro Outside Linebacker playing the game the way he's been playing it. Why would we mess with that and ask him to do anything but play the way that made him an All Pro? It's insane to me that people want to mess with Matt Milano because they think the guy behind him in Dorian Williams might be better than the guy alongside him or in this new case, Christian Kirksey. Kirksey has to learn the playbook and the calls being called to him regardless of whether he's calling them or receiving them. It's going to take time. People are going to need to learn patience. McDermott doesn't rush new players into the lineup. It just is what it is.

Kyle Allen has been working with Jordan Palmer for as long as Josh has. That's how Josh and he became friends. He's a Palmer disciple. So there's a bit of a bias there. Not to say it was said on air. Just to say Kyle is one of his boys, so it doesn't shock me to hear him speak glowingly about him.

Outside of your takes, which are rather pessimistic when it comes to guys in this Draft outside of Kincaid, I think your forecast of length in the league on guys is too short. A good TE often has a very long career. It's not odd to see guys play into their 30's. Kyle Rudolph was in the league last year at 33. Greg Olsen was playing at 35. Jimmy Graham is playing this year at 36. If Kincaid is what he says he is, he'll be in this league longer than 6-8 years, barring major injury. If Torrence is a starter for a few years, he'll definitely be around longer than 4-5 years. Especially with the middle of the road play league wide at the Offensive Line. Cody Ford, a complete bust, is entering year 5 this year. A guy like Bobby Hart was entering year 9 before he was released.

When one asks a question pertaining to another thread, why not just direct them there? And it's not something I frequently do so I'm not quite sure why you said "will you quit it already?!"

The Dorian Williams pick is a head scratcher to everyone because everyone was singularly focused on the MLB position. But we also had a need at OLB. The fact is that outside of Matt Milano, we had ZERO OLB's on the roster. So while the MLB's we had were underwhelming, our LB core consisted of 4 MLB's in competition (Bernard, Dodson, Klein, Spector), 1 OLB (Milano), and a Special Teams player who is only technically a LB (Matakevitch). In Rounds 1 & 2, they valued getting a weapon and a starting Offensive Lineman over the MLB position, especially with what was on the board at both picks. When Round 3 started, there were 3 MLB's that could have theoretically pushed Bernard and Dodson and maybe won the job in Drew Sanders, Trenton Simpson, and Daiyan Henley. After them was a MASSIVE drop off in talent in which they felt were probably long term developmental prospects that wouldn't be able to compete and unworthy of selecting in Round 3. All 3 guys got drafted by pick 86. At that point, MLB was out. So looking at the roster, with no MLB on the board left they felt could challenge Dodson, Bernard, Klein, or Spector in Year 1, and having taken care of the last weapon and the last piece of the OL - what was the only real hole left on the roster? An OLB behind Milano. Milano has stayed relatively healthy. But when he's needed a breather or some time, to this point we've had an insane drop off there when he isn't in the lineup. And going into this season, we literally had nothing. Now in Williams, perhaps we have a player that can keep things rolling when Milano needs a breather or God forbid gets hurt. Long story short, Williams was drafted as an OLB. Everyone is confused by it because our MLB's are pedestrian and we were focused on that position. But OLB was a need and that's what he was Drafted for.

He signed with Washington's Practice Squad today.

Looking over who's left after teams have set up their Practice Squads, unless it's literally some Undrafted guy that no one has ever heard of, it could be one of (in no particular order): Matt Corral Colt McCoy Carson Wentz Trevor Siemian Chase Daniel Jeff Driskel Nathan Peterman Josh Johnson Pick your poison.

He was an All Pro in 2017. He has played well in the past. Yes, he's also looked bad in different situations often. But we're not asking him to start. He's a Practice Squad QB, Backup at best. And when looking at a Backup, a guy who has the potential to perform well is about the best you can ask for. That said, I think Matt Corral is more likely. Especially after reading Frank Reich wants him back and he didn't come back yet: https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/30/panthers-frank-reich-i-would-love-to-get-matt-corral-back/ https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-add-11-players-to-the-practice-squad

Unless Frank Reich is lying and he was just hyping the kid up, it seems like he wanted him back on the Panthers Practice Squad: https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/30/panthers-frank-reich-i-would-love-to-get-matt-corral-back/ The Panthers announced 11 of their 16 PS signings today and he wasn't listed among them, yet: https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-add-11-players-to-the-practice-squad Which to me implies Corral has options and is at least weighing them, if not outright turning down Carolina. I think he is fully in play for our QB Practice Squad signing.

He was a problem when he was the #2 Pick in the Draft, Franchise QB, with a Superstar season, and when he was an unquestioned starter or in a competition for the Starting Role. Now he's a guy who is unemployed. Can't even get a backup job. He has to be on his best behavior. As a Practice Squad QB behind someone like Josh Allen, what kind of trouble can he really cause?

Here's the list of guys signed to Practice Squads today: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-practice-squad-tracker-team-by-team-roster-signings-ahead-of-2023-season Guys mentioned like Bailey Zappe, Malik Cunningham, Will Grier, and Jake Fromm have all been snatched up already, amongst others.

Exactly what I'm saying. They brought him in as a safety valve. A break glass in case of emergency that is likely to be pulled. But it's not something that's going to be pulled immediately.

I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that everyone who is jumping up and down and thinking he's going to start every snap starting Week 1 is in for a let down. It's going to take time and they're going to give Bernard/Dodson the first crack. He's coming off injury, didn't have any offseason, and has to learn the playbook and calls. Beane is notoriously slow bringing new players along. He felt Nyheim Hines needed more time with the playbook as a Running Back, one of the easiest positions to transition, after over a month. Vet or not, he's going to take some time before he starts at MLB and if Bernard and Dodson hold it down (which I know looks unlikely), it may not even happen at all. They're covering themselves for if/when that happens with this move.

Depends on what they mean by roster moves. If it's including Practice Squad, it's 3. If it's Main Roster, it's just 1.

Why? It's been common knowledge he's the Special Teams captain.

I agree that Kyle Allen is the backup. But if Matt Barkley getting the first reps in the 2nd PS game and the supposed off air leaked audio from the Bears booth is any indication - they aren't exactly 100% comfortable with him if Josh goes down. With that said, I'd expect someone who has experience and can be more comfortably called upon in an emergency as opposed to a young developmental player without any experience. But we will see. Maybe I'm wrong.

He signed on to Washington's Practice Squad today.

I took a look at the list of players who were released yesterday and saw him on there and thought "oh no". It honestly wouldn't shock me. I'm not condoning it, but I wouldn't be surprised. Edit: Washington signed him to their Practice Squad *phew*

Not yet and he's on my shortlist.

I always said I didn't see us signing a MLB and plugging and playing them. And I still don't see it. He was signed to the Practice Squad. He'll spend some time there getting healthy and learning the playbook, scheme, and playcalls. If or when Dodson/Bernard falter, he'll get called up when he's ready. I didn't think we'd make the move and I'm pleasantly surprised they did. Kirskey probably eventually ends up starting because I think that the odds that Dodson/Bernard will falter is great. But it won't be immediate like everyone wants and expects.