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Yeah, that's not how veteran NFL players work. Especially vets in a contract year. If he mailed it in, that effects his money and potential suitors next year. Especially with us.

I agree with you here on wishing we picked from a different position. He's already paid for and we don't save any money letting him go. He's been awful for us thus far. But at least he's been working in the system and maybe he and Josh needed some more time to click. He was clearly the last WR on the roster. But i'd have rather let go one of our 11 on the DL, one of our 11 DB's, or one our 6 LB's than our 5th WR.

We literally just acquired Amari Cooper like a few hours ago and you're still talking about moves for more WR's. Reminds me of when we signed Leonard Floyd and you were talking about adding not one, but two more DE's on top of him immediately. Like take a day or two and be happy with what we have done - geesh! This ain't Madden. No way I see us doing TWO trades. With them releasing MVS to make room for him instead of somewhere else says to me that 5 WR's is the max they're going with. They aren't releasing any of Shakir, Samuel (because of the long term financial commitment made to him), Coleman, or Hollins. And having 2 WR's learning the playbook midseason and giving up more Draft capital then we already have - I just don't see it. The *only* one that I can even remotely see being done is if Jacksonville decides they just want to give away Gabe Davis at the deadline. Bc he has chemistry with Josh, knows the system for the most part, and everyone in the building. Even then, I think it would require an injury to someone and Beane willing to take on whatever hit he has next season and whatever it would take to get out from underneath it after that.

Of course they should feel good about it. It gave us a two game lead on the division and a loss would have put us in 2nd place with a .500 record. But let's not get it twisted - we had a nail biter with a 2 win team coming off back to back losses. We came DANGEROUSLY close to being .500 and in 2nd Place in the Division to a .500 Jets team. All of our wins come from losing teams. And we've failed both tests against AFC contenders. One of them in spectacular fashion. I'm happy we won and I'm glad we're in the position we're in. But we're not the 2017 Bills anymore where we're thrilled to just make it to the Playoffs. And watching them over the past 3 weeks, even tonight with a win, a lot of things need to change if we're going to compete.

I think we all would have signed up for 4-2 with a two game lead on the Division before the start of the season. But considering the 4 teams we've beaten are the 2-4 Cardinals, the 2-3 Dolphins, the 1-5 Jaguars, and the 2-4 Jets, of which it came down to the wire - 4-2 isn't quite the victory it seems on paper. Instead 4-2 feels like the bare minimum. Especially with how badly Baltimore owned us and Houston beating us as they did, minus Joe Mixon and Nico Collins going down before the second half. Things certainly could be a lot worse. The record and the division lead is nice. Definitely happy we pulled it out tonight. But I'm certainly not doing backflips and feeling like we're Super Bowl bound right now.

That was the worst officiating performance I've ever seen. Ed Hochuli would have let them play more. Everything that could possibly be called *was* called. Everything that could be picked up or was 50/50 was called. It was pure insanity.

The thing about Bass is as bad as he is, something else is always a bigger story than him at the end of the game this season. So he always just manages to slide under the radar. This one is no different. He had the game winning Kick, Zeurlein also missed two Kicks (so "the wind"), and the story out of this game is obviously the refs calling EVERYTHING.

This is the worst officiating crew I've ever seen. No hyperbole.

These refs are insane. Everything that could be possibly a penalty is being called.

It was Taron Johnson who got in front of Lazard, but then didn't leave his feet, leaving just the ball in front of him.

The score should be 24-13 right now if not for a terrible Hail Mary defense by Taron Johnson and having an atrocious Kicker.

Watch Taron Johnson on that play. Maneuvers in front of Lazard, then doesn't leave his feet. Leaving nothing but the ball in front of Lazard. Absolutely disgusting.

Funny time to say that 😂

Your WR's can't get open? F-ck it - throw a bomb to RB2 😄

I love holding calls on fair catches 🙄

What would you have us do when guys are regularly not getting separation and Josh has nowhere to go? Running the ball is a necessity.

We cannot defend a Screen to save our life.

Nope. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts Davante's motivation is less about wins, losses, and championships and more about showing out individually to the league. To a point where either the acquiring team values him so much they keep him on the insane number he's on the next two seasons or let's him go and he's coming off still looking like that dude when he hits the open market. If he cared about wins and losses, he wouldn't want to go to the Jets and Saints to begin with. He wants to go there because he's got built in chemistry with Rodgers and Carr and thinks that will make him look best immediately. Edit: *Maybe* to the extent of the winning team will pursue him harder bc they'll be first in the Division and will want more firepower to compete. But I feel like if the Jets were serious about competing, they wouldn't have fired their coach. And from our end, if we win and look good, we'll be 4-2 with a two game lead on the division and I could see a scenario where Beane thinks we're in good shape and doesn't panic. If we lose, fall to 3-3, and give up first in the Division to the Jets - I could see a scenario where he views adding Adams as a bandaid on a gaping wound.

In a vacuum, that's fair. But again, after the past two weeks of getting smashed by both of the only two contenders we've faced, I don't know that even with Adams we're a Super Bowl team. Adams would upgrade our WR core, undoubtedly. But rather than take us from a Contender to a Championship team, it would take us from an underwhelming Offense of talent (outside of QB) to an adequate one. The other part of it is that people look at an addition like Adams on paper as you're just getting that Superstar level of production he's had from the word go. Adams will have to get the Playbook down midseason while coming off a Hamstring injury. And there's no saying that he and Allen are just going to have chemistry together immediately. I'm willing to bet that Beane thinks that a lot of the woes that we're having with the new WR core is that the chemistry isn't quite there yet. All this to say that combined with Beane's MO to begin with, I don't see us giving up a Day 2 Pick and further restructures (if there's any left that he'd feel comfortable doing after all he's done already) for a guy that would more likely than not be a 1 year rental - on a year where our roster isn't more than just competitive even with him to begin with. I think what's happening now is if they can get him for a 4th with them eating 6m or so at the deadline when it's cheapest, he'd do it. I feel like he's just monitoring the situation and hoping they get desperate enough to do a deal that is good for us.

Roster wise on the Offensive side of the ball, it isn't even close. The only reason we got back in was Nico Collins going down. Not to mention, Joe Mixon and one of their starting Offensive Lineman were out for the game (granted we were also down Shakir). And even if they didn't f-ck up the last drive, there's no guarantee we would have won in Overtime either.

I think rather than selecting another WR from 60 onward or the *laughably* unrealistic idea that we could have gotten someone between 4 and 9 to move to 28 - the most fair complaint that one can make as far as what we should have done differently in the Draft that could have improved our situation now, would be that we should have tried to move in front of Jacksonville at 23 to take Brian Thomas Jr. I haven't given up on Coleman. But it's pretty obvious Thomas would provide more help now. I'd like to think he's lying when he said he didn't make any calls to move up at all and just no one wanted to move down in that 20-22 area.

Ah, my apologies, I was flipping through quickly and figured you were talking about us.