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Our best, slightly realistic, hope is that Beane is able to pry away Chris Olave from the Saints. Then, hopefully, Gabe Davis is getting close. The two of them then replace two thirds of Elijah Moore, Tyrell Shavers, and Curtis Samuel's roster spots on the 53. Options like A.J. Brown, Jaylen Waddle, and Garrett Wilson aren't real options. The first being unavailable outside of Fantasy and the latter two no way being traded to us if they are available. Outside of Olave, I think we're looking at Jakobi Meyers, Rashid Shaheed (for his deep threat ability), Calvin Ridley, or Jerry Jeudy as the only options with a sliding scale of possibility. Olave to me is the lone realistic big fish. But any of them would at least be upgrades over what we have. Although I fear Beane, with the hardcore stance he took this off-season about WR, won't do anything beyond bring up Gabe when he's healthy bc he'd have to admit he was wrong. I hope I'm wrong tho. Said it once, I'll say it a million times, two weeks before the deadline - everyone's going to publicly say that the players who's names are being floated out there in the press are "unavailable". That doesn't mean that all of them really are. It means some of them are playing the game and hoping someone will throw a bigger offer at them to "change their mind". A lot of them really aren't. Specifically A.J. Brown. But there's no way there won't be a single WR moved at the Trade Deadline, regardless of what they're all saying now.

That's always the case at this point. The Trade Deadine isn't for over two weeks. Every team is going to say "we don't want to trade (so and so)" right now. Even if they do, they're going to say that in an attempt to get teams to offer more. That said, obviously there are teams who are telling the truth when they say that about certain players. But there is definitely a team or two that is putting that out there as posturing to get better compensation from desperate teams. As in, what exactly? If you're alleging that it's unlikely we make a move, i'd agree that it's more likely we don't than we will. Doesn't mean it's not the right decision to make one, if you can.

That's just the reality of the situation though. McDermott's Defense has been figured out. Improving talent in a couple spots can't hurt. But when the blueprint on how to beat his scheme is out, the opposing team is going to score a lot of points regardless. It just is what it is this season. We're stuck with McDermott and his broken Defense for at least this year. The only path to victory is a stronger Offense that can overcome it.

Again though, we know they *want* to extend him. But we don't know if Olave is being receptive to those overtures. If he has been, he isn't going anywhere. But if he's not interested, then they have the rest of this season which is already lost and next season, which will be Year 1 of a rebuild under a new QB. It's more valuable to get picks for the rebuild in that situation than have him for the next year and a half of turmoil. Even if he isn't being receptive, they could still theoretically dig in their heels, keep him, and Franchise him after 2026. But I think most GM's would look at the situation and say it's better to move on now. Especially if the compensation is very good. All that said, Olave isn't the only WR on the Saints that could help us. If they don't want to move Olave, Rashid Shaheed's speed and Deep threat ability would also serve to help open things up for us. If you can't pry Olave away, pivot to Shaheed.

Bc there's not a lot that can be done to change that. Even if we got a CB2 and a Safety (or two) that were upgrades - the blueprint on how to beat McDermott's Zone Defense is on the desk of every Offensive Coordinator at this point. As soon as our initial coverage drops a guy for the next level man, get the ball out. Immediate completion, even if it's played perfectly - which it almost never is. Also when it comes to Defense, we have guys like Hoecht and Ogunjobi coming in next week. Hairston will be having his Practice Window opened up soon. Milano and Bernard will be returning from injury. So we have reinforcements on the way already. But again, it doesn't matter much when the league has diagnosed McDermott's scheme after over a decade of the same looks in the league. We're clearly in Rex Ryan territory with McDermott, wherein we have a once Defensive guru who's Defense has been figured out and they're incapable or unwilling to change. On top of that, even the league's best built Defenses don't stop the league's most high powered Offenses. This is why so many of us disagreed with going all in on Defense this off-season thinking that alone would get us over the hump. You can build an amazing Defense. But if you don't have Offensive Playmakers who can separate for your QB, you're going to get outscored. And just as the blueprint on how to topple McDermott's Defense is out there, so is the blueprint to stop our Offense. The first few weeks, teams respected our passing game more. This allowed Cook to run wild. Now teams know, Coleman hasn't taken a step. Palmer (who's also now down long term) isn't getting open enough. Shakir, while elite in YAC and shiftiness, also has difficulties separating beyond the line of scrimmage (which is why you see him get so many screens). And underneath them, the separation issue is even worse. So now teams know - we want to beat you with Cook. So key in on him, play man on our pass catchers, and force Josh to beat us by going to guys who can't beat single coverage. If we can have one guy they fear, then that opens things up for other guys. And the Pass Game will open the Run Game back up. Getting a guy at WR1 is more impactful than anything we can do on Defense. But I also don't think anyone is suggesting we shouldn't try and also get a CB or Safety as well.

Brown was never available. On top of the Eagles being a 5-2 team that isn't looking to sell parts (like the Saints). On top of them saying they aren't interested in moving him. They'd take on over 45m in Dead Cap moving him, after signing him to a 96m deal just last season. As for Olave's showing, the Saints are 1-6. Him looking great today doesn't make him less likely to move. It all boils down to whether or not he's interested in being a Saint or not after 2026. Reportedly, they want to extend him. If he's open to that, he's not going anywhere. If he's telling them he wants to go to Free Agency after Year 5 and is rebuffing their overtures, then they'd be dumb not to move him now.

Thanks for the correction. I didn't realize Olave was so young and still under his Rookie deal. I guess that's what happens when you have an immediate production Draft Pick. Makes it feel like they've been around longer than they have.

The 15m next year is a club option. If the team who owns his contract doesn't want to pay it, they can either decline the option, he becomes a Free Agent, and they're off the hook. Or they can extend him and get that number down.

Dan Mitchell doesn't know sh-t. He's an independent YouTube and TikTok Bills "content creator". A real annoying one at that. He's like a Temu version of Buffalo Fanatics. Not surprising he's now doing the "what I've heard" BS clickbait grift.

Not really. Maybe if that was the actual picture. But the reality is that they took the picture he posted and zoomed in on the Bills symbol for click bait. It was just an image of him on the field during the Bills/Dolphins game.

There's a difference between us beating them twice a year and their GM giving us their best 2 players on Offense to do it. Waddle and Achane coming into Miami's house on a yearly basis to punch the Dolphins in the mouth. That's a fireable offense. This is why most teams trade their players out of the conference entirely. In Division trades are *exceedingly* rare. And if they happen, it's not their best players, let alone their best 2 players on Offense. It's incredibly unlikely we'd even get Waddle. Miami says they aren't interested in trading him. And if they do, they'll have many options that are not only outside of the Division, but who's picks in the Round are perceived better than ours. Teams know we pick around 28 to 30 on a yearly basis. The idea of Achane and Waddle is straight up comedy.

You think they're not only going to trade us Waddle in the Division to smack them in the face twice a year every year, but Achane as well?

If it isn't being reported by a verified NFL media member or Beat writer, in which case it would be everywhere, it isn't worth the bandwidth reading the tweet uses. This time of the year, especially us being in the situation we're in with some positions, people are starving for a move to be made. And randos take advantage of that by posting bullsh-t to gain likes, follows, and traction on their accounts. There are no sources on Twitter. The best random "sources" on there are people who have put out nonsense and just got lucky that it coincidentally happened. Then everyone says "they're legit". Then you'll watch them put out a bunch more nonsense that never happens. Hoping they'll get lucky again. I know people are desperate to see us do something. But don't let that make you fall for and/or spread dubious (at best) info.

Ray-Ray McLoud is not helping this WR room. He might provide more than Tyrell Shavers or Elijah Moore. But Gabe Davis can do that as well. We need someone to take the top off a Defense.

The problem there is we might not get Strong back. There's been no information whatsoever to the extent of his injury. Just that it's IR for a Neck injury. Neck injuries aren't something to play with. Hairston may or may not have his practice window opened up in the coming week. But it's going to be at least 2 weeks of practice before he sees the field, if not 3. And when he does see the field, they aren't just going to just throw him in the deep end after missing most of Training Camp, all of the Pre-Season, and having just 2-3 weeks on field with the team since July. This is why McDermott keeps saying people need to "manage expectations" with him. He'll be eased in. With limited reps the first week and a little more as time goes on, if things go swimmingly. Long story short, we can't expect Strong to return and if you're hoping for Hairston to start in White's place, I wouldn't expect that until like Week 12, at the earliest.

No, everyone is not available at the right price. McAfee once posed the question to Beane on what it would cost for him to consider trading Allen. The answer was there's nothing that could be offered. The Rams aren't trading their Super Bowl winning Head Coach that may be the best Offensive Coach in Football. If there is a "right price" that they couldn't turn down, it would be so prohibitive on the team building level as to cancel out what he would bring us.

Cam Taylor-Britt makes way more sense for us and is way more plausible than Trey Hendrickson.

It's not an "assumption". Listen to the announcers talk about no one getting open for him. Watch the "All 22". Of course he's been trying "Hero Ball" more the past couple weeks - we were playing from behind by multiple scores most of both games and needing to score fast. If pass catchers were winning their matchups with any sort of consistency throughout the game, he wouldn't have to try and go into Hero Ball mode. The implication that he's just turning down open guys to go for low percentage passes all the time is wild. There's more than enough footage to show that the high percentage passes aren't there or they're incapable of coming down with it.

They might move him. But not to us. We don't need Edge. It's like I said all off-season, you could get Myles Garrett and with our CB's, Safeties, LB's, and our scheme that's been figured out - it wouldn't matter. The balls out too quickly for them to get home. For example, Joey Bosa is getting consistent pressure. It doesn't matter with what we've got behind him: We have Michael Hoecht coming to us after the Bye. We've got Joey Bosa and Groot. You think we're moving Groot who we just paid 80m, to an off the bench role? Hoecht as our 4th DE after the contract we gave him? We haven't had a single injury at DE, we're good there. We've had 3 injuries at DT and I don't even think we need to make a move there. With all the problems we have at WR, CB, S, and LB - going balls to the wall for Hendrickson would be ridiculous. If you can pull off Hendrickson, you can pull off multiple pieces where we actually need help.

This isn't real. It was part of a 7 picture photo dump he did of pictures of himself that mean nothing. And the person who made the tweet edited the image for click bait purposes. He zoomed in on the Bills logo and his feet. The real image is this:

Bc he was the 53rd man on the 53 and we have too many injuries elsewhere. We'll need to call up someone at DT. Yes, we'll get Larry Ogunjobi. But we're down Daquan Jones, T.J. Sanders, and Dewayne Carter from our initial 53. We need at least one more in addition to Ogunjobi. Considering we're now down 2 1T's from our initial 53 and that Ogunjobi leans more 3T, my guess is that it was done to make room for Zion Logue - who has no more Practice Squad call ups left.

No one's saying Gabe's a savior. No one's saying elevating Gabe is the only thing we need to do at WR. But if you think, if healthy, he'd provides less than Tyrell Shavers or Elijah Moore - you're crazy. There's a difference between a player who isn't someone you want starting (Gabe) and a player who is giving us absolutely nothing (Shavers, Moore). And as for him not being signed by anyone else until we signed him to the Practice Squad, most teams aren't in the practice of signing players who are injured. They usually visit with the player and check in on their rehab (as the Steelers, Saints, and 49ers did) and circle back when they're ready to play.

Sanders? Do you mean Shavers? I'll take the guy who might do that at times, but who's career lows with us were 35 receptions, 549 yards, and 6 TD's - over the guy who's on pace for 14 receptions for 140 yards, with a 50% catch rate. Shavers might not "cause" interceptions - but that's because he's consistently not getting open and consistently not being thrown to because of it. Moore and Shavers are providing us with absolutely nothing. Coleman is providing not a whole lot more, but he's not going anywhere. Samuel is here one second gone the next. And now Palmer is "week to week". Davis isn't going to save us. But he's an upgrade over a number of players we're rolling with right now.

I understand being upset about what we've gotten from Coleman, especially over the past couple games. And I can get with the idea of feeling like he's a lost cause bc he can't get separation. But to call him the 5th Best WR on this team when we've been getting the kind of "contributions" we've been getting from guys like Tyrell Shavers, Elijah Moore, and the often injured Curtis Samuel is total hyperbole. If we had a halfway decent WR core, he could be the 5th Best WR. But he's no worse than #3 with the kind of lacking WR room we have. Which to say he's the 3rd Best WR in one of the worst (if not, the worst) WR rooms in the NFL isn't much of a defense. But to say he's worse than 2/3 of whatTyrell Shavers, Elijah Moore, and Curtis Samuel are bringing is to be purposely obtuse.