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Awesome to see you congratulate and celebrate rather than obsess that he's *only* #3 instead of 1 or 2.

I never said there isn't. I'm simply saying there isn't much of a distinction between that narrative and our own on a nationwide level. And there's absolutely a playoff narrative with Josh and the Bills too. You're just focusing on Lamar and ignoring the constant "they just can't beat the Chiefs" - which is just as loud.

Removing the homer hat and being brutally honest, I don't think fans or players of the NFL outside of Bills fans and players make much distinction between Lamar and the Ravens usually going out in Round 1 or Round 2 of the Playoffs and Josh and the Bills more often going out in Round 2 or Round 3. Josh getting a game closer than Lamar more often isn't the own we think it is outside of Western NY. Josh and the Bills not being able to get over the hump is often more of a story than Lamar bc we always get so close and consistently lose to the same team. The narrative nationwide is pretty much the same. Neither man has been able to get to the Super Bowl.

Is it? Bc the friggin' Raiders felt it was worth eating the amount of money they spent on him in 2024 and get caught up in an NFLPA battle over the voided guarantees just to get him out of the building. And since then, not a single team in the league has so much as given him a visit. What we've seen on the field and what we've *heard* from the Locker Room is enough to be wary of Wilkins in the building. But i'd be willing to practically guarantee that there's been things said or done beyond just what we've seen and heard that have precipitated him becoming persona non grata around the league.

It's laughable to me that fans get so upset and offended anytime anyone lists a single Quarterback above ours. We have someone who is listed as #3 Player in ALL of the NFL across all positions and just won the MVP award. Many list him as the #1 Quarterback in all the NFL. Yet it's always considered some sort of slight when someone prefers a different Quarterback - even if they still list Josh as #2 or #3. How spoiled we've become.

It's hilarious to me when we lose like the last person on the depth chart who might not even dress on Sunday's and OP is like "replace them with a Superstar!". It's Dewayne friggin' Carter. They'll bring up someone from the Practice Squad and replace that person on the Practice Squad with someone else Wilkins isn't gonna be a Backup. They aren't going to sit Oliver. And why would we want to give less reps to T.J. Sanders and Deone Walker? And that's not even taking into account the culture fit. It's just a "No" anyway you look at it

How is this a "Fake Tush Push"? The pusher is lined up 5 yards behind the QB. Interesting play. But it's barely a fake QB sneak.

That's a fair point. But that doesn't mean it can't be done. It would just mean one of Kendrick Green, Dan Feeny, Jordan Phillips, Dane Jackson, Jordan Poyer, or Sam Franklin are moved off and replaced with a developmental guy. I don't think it's crazy to think they'd move on from one of their two vet Center's in Kendrick Green or Dan Feeny or one of their two vet Safeties in Jordan Poyer or Sam Franklin to bring back one of Ankou or Jefferson. Likely the 2nd IOL, as Franklin is more ST's than Safety. As the 1T spot is one injury away from being called up and whoever the last man on the totem pole is at Center is two injuries away from being called up.

So because we have experienced players at other positions, we have to bring in a developmental player at a position of need that would be 1 injury away from being called up to the 53? I don't see the logic.

I'd imagine Quintin Jefferson or Eli Ankou will take Logue's place on the Squad. Considering we're 1 injury away from having to call that guy up, I'd be surprised to see a player we'd have to develop and learn the scheme and playbook on top of it.

That's how it always goes down. One major source gets the scoop, then everyone else backs them up (as you saw with Alaina and Joe B.) and cites them as having the initial scoop. Nothing odd about it. No legit source is reporting on a teams 5th Defensive Tackle erroneously. It's not exactly the scoop of the century that you run to the presses with without having the full story

Yes, the first move of anyone hacking an NFL Insider would be to fake report an Achilles Injury to Dewayne Carter...

I'd bet we sign Zion Logue to the 53 and Quinton Jefferson or Eli Ankou to the Practice Squad to replace him.

Jordan Schultz is as legit of an NFL Reporter source as it gets. He's not going to report something fake. But is this a good enough source for you?

Yeah there is. So long as he stayed in shape, he knows what he needs to do in this Defense like the back of his hand. That's why he keeps being brought back. That's why he was immediately put on the field when we signed him at the end of last season. That said, if Carter was thought of as more of a 1T this season than a 3T, it would likely be Logue over Phillips anyways.

Yeah, like others have said, I don't think Clark was on the market. It was just something they did to land themselves Micah Parsons. Short of us moving a Parsons level player, we weren't getting Kenny Clark.

And will be 30 in a month with eroding skills. And legal issues. No longer does returns. Hamlin isn't going anywhere. His contract is fully guaranteed and they trust him. Cole Bishop will start. And if he gets hurt or isn't working out, they also have Jordan Hancock waiting in the wings. Who they used at Safety a lot more than I was expecting this offseason and showed good things. Hamlin is more of a depth piece with starting experience. Poyer is a break glass in case of emergency. There's even still Cam Lewis here as well. Our Safety room has more options than we did last year already. Bishop needs his shot so we can figure out if he's the guy or not. We did the same thing with Terrel Bernard, who was also a complete unknown and coming off injuries. What if we had replaced him in the lineup before he ever got his shot? We don't know if Bishop is or isn't the answer right now. But we have to find out and the only way to do that is to play him. He very well could be. But if he isn't, we already have veteran floor options with years of experience starting in this Defense and we'll evaluate Hancock's potential to possibly be the long term answer. Hamlin won't be starting. But that's not good enough? I don't understand the obsession with getting him completely off the team. If you look around the league, you can do far worse than Damar Hamlin as a 3rd or 4th Safety on the roster. Yet anytime a Safety, literally anyone released, it's "better than Hamlin, git r dun!". I could understand not wanting him to start, but that's already not happening. I don't get obsessing over replacing him as a bench guy. And if Peppers is such a no brainer and such an upgrade, why would he come here to be a Backup?

30 year old Lawyer Milloy was better than Jabrill Peppers in his prime. Comparing him at 30 to Milloy, even with the caveat of "Lite" is laughable.

I've seen a number of places say ours is the best one:

Jalen Kimber is interesting to me. He's a guy who started his College career at Georgia. So he was obviously a highly recruited guy. Then he transferred to Florida. Then transferred again to Penn State to finish his College career. Those are three pretty big schools to all say "yes" to the guy. And with him transferring so much, he probably never really got his feet fully underneath him - constantly having to learn new Defenses and Playbooks and having to reacclimate himself so much. There must be something there for all of Georgia, Florida, and Penn State to want him. And for Beane to bring him on at the expense of a guy he spent a pick on just last year and to take him over Zy Alexander, who was also here and had a better Draft grade going into this year's Draft.

I don't understand what's to hate about them. It's a pretty innocuous look. I like them. I can understand being underwhelmed or not really caring bc it's pretty bland. But some of you are acting like they busted out some kind of multicolored, CFL monstrosity on the eyes.

Was never going to happen. First, you needed to have 21m+ in Cap Space just to be able to take on his current deal for the Trade to go through in the first place. Then, we'd have to pay him a 188m contract, 47m annually - while being last in the league in Space this year. And the following years probably aren't going to be much better with Allen's contract and the litany of extensions we did this season. Then we'd have to beat the Packers offer of 2 1st Round Picks plus perennial Pro Bowl DT Kenny Clark. So it would have to be more than 2 1st's and Ed Oliver, as their picks are thought to be slightly better than ours and Clark is probably worth more than Oliver. Problem there is if we could figure out a way to beat that offer and make it work under the cap, we'd be pretty much relying on Draft Picks alone to replace players in the coming years as money wise, we'd be nowhere. But we wouldn't be picking higher than around 60 for a few years straight. If we hadn't done a couple of the extensions we did and we hadn't spent what we spent on Joey Bosa and/or Michael Hoecht, not to mention a 3rd on Landon Jackson already - I could see it. But with everything we've done in bringing in 3 new DE's, locking up Rousseau long term, and the situation we're in now, it was a pipe dream.

This. Especially when the last award was so hotly debated. Voters probably felt the odds of a repeat are low and at the same time also felt that since Allen got the nod this year, Jackson would next year - if it were close again (and odds are it will be). I'm not the type of fan to get upset by "snub" and I think there's logic that can explain why he didn't get a vote in this. I don't think a single voter on that list is arguing that Josh Allen isn't an MVP caliber QB.

Yeah, I was wrong there. That's the first time I can remember sitting a QB in the final game that they ended up cutting. Kinda rough. If they had even an inkling that they might keep Shane over him, he should have got some run in the game.