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Being 5th in YPA really doesn't matter when you're 15th (which is actually a little higher than I expected) in Passing. When you're 5th in Yards Per Attempt and 15th in Yards Passed, it's really hard to believe we're secretly an Elite Offense. It's really simple. Teams know we want to run. When we're able to run even when they're prepared for it, we're in good shape. When they're well prepared to stop the run - we're nowhere.

Again, all he said was: “Yeah, it looked like he was moving really well. Obviously a guy that I know very well and have a lot of trust in and a lot of faith in - good to see him out there.” I don't understand how you think that solidifies he's playing this weekend. There's nothing there that tips the hand. He's just stating facts. He has history and faith in him, he's moving well, and it's good to see him on the Practice field. He would have answered this question the same way whether he had a good chance to play or not. Obviously, he's not going to say "pump the brakes - the guy looks like sh-t out there and my work with him in the past means nothing". I think it's trending positively for him playing this weekend. But Josh's comments are a nothing burger.

This is a clever workaround to create a 3rd thread on the main page to bash Keon Coleman.

I think it's quite possible he plays this week. Especially after listening to what Sal said. But I don't think this comment says much of anything. It's kind of a nothing answer that he'd say regardless of whether he was playing or not. On the "taking all of Keon Coleman's snaps" comment - I don't think you're going to see that. Unless the tweets today mean he's actually being discussed as part of a Trade. Then he'd be Inactive and yeah, that's possible.

It's definitely more likely than not that it means nothing, as does 95% of vague Twitter posts. However, if it were to mean something, the first clock may apply to Simmons. But he posted it again, specifically quote replying to Coleman's post. That wouldn't be about Simmons - whatever it's meant to imply.

I don't think Davis is precluding them from making a deal. They've known about his recovery this whole time and have still been reportedly in the mix for Meyers and Shaheed. But if you're expecting something huge beyond Davis and an addition like that, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Olave was pretty much the only big fish. But he's out now with both the team and him wanting to do an extension. Wilson and Waddle will either stay put or will def be traded to someone else if they're moved, rather in the division. BTJ was never really available. Everyone ran wild with a story that simply said from the jump that teams were calling, but it's very unlikely he's moved. Since then they've said they absolutely aren't moving him. And A.J. Brown was never going to be moved even when he was disgruntled and he's since chilled on that. Something like Rashid Shaheed or Jakobi Meyers and Gabe Davis - knocking two of our underperforming WR's off of the roster is about the best we can realistically hope for. And would still be significantly better than what we're rolling out.

I literally just posted I'd be taking calls on him like minutes before this happened, especially as part of a deal that brought us another WR. Would be wild if that actually happened. I think it's smart. It's clear that he's not going to work here with how we're using him and what we want out of him.

Honestly, I'm at a point where i'd be taking calls on him. Especially in a deal that involved another WR. There may be a team out there that liked him in the Pre-Draft process and thinks they can get something out of him if used differently and/or as an added piece to a loaded core where he wouldn't be focused on. It's clear that on our team and the way we want to use him, it's just not going to work. So get out from under him before his value completely plummets to nothing. He's put some good stuff on film (inconsistently) and he's still early enough in his development.

He wasn't available. You guys won the Thornton sweepstakes after the Pats cut him in November of last year (we may or may not have been in on him then, but alas he chose KC) and then signed him to a Futures Deal in February. Then he made the 53 outright out of Training Camp. In hindsight, we should have tried to poach him and sign him to the Active Roster from your PS last year. But who knows if KC would have blocked it by signing him to their Active Roster or not.

"Give it up!"

There is likely no Lambo to be had. Olave was the only bigger fish that was thought to be had. But then that was squashed when it was revealed that they weren't only trying to extend him, but Olave is working with them to get it done. Only real shot was if he was telling them he wanted out and he's doing the opposite. Options like Waddle and Wilson seem unlikely to be traded. But even if they are, there's 0% chance that they'd move him to us inside the division with all the suitors they'd have. A.J. Brown was never going to be moved regardless of how disgruntled he got a few weeks ago and now he's calmed down anyways. BTJ isn't available. Even the initial report that made everyone go crazy just said teams were calling about his availability but that it was "very unlikely that they'd trade him". Since then they've come out and said they absolutely won't trade him. Jakobi Meyers and Rashid Shaheed seem like the only actual options and likely the best we can do. You can't force a team to sell you what they refuse to sell. And it's ridiculous to me with what we're rolling out and what we're getting at a number of the WR spots we have that people would be upset by getting one of them in here. You call it shopping in the Honda Civic lot. I've got news for you, a Honda Civic is world's better than the 50 year old Ford Pinto we have to push down the road. The grand sum total through 7 games for HALF of our entire WR core (Samuel, Moore, Shavers) *combined* is 13 catches for 164 yards and 1 TD. Let that sink in. It's ridiculous to me that people would complain about bringing in a Meyers, who's coming off of a 1000 yard+ season and who's low since 2021 is 804 yards, when we're getting what we're getting out of half of our core. It's like dying of thirst in the Desert and seeing a canteen that's half filled and saying "it's only half full so I'm not going to drink it". Meyers would be an upgrade over most of the WR's on this roster. We need all the help we can get and if that's the best we can do, you do it. Get a Shaheed or Meyers in here, activate Gabe when ready, push some of the guys who aren't getting open or providing literally nothing (like Shavers who's gone without a catch in 5 of the 7 games he's dressed) off the roster, and hope for the best.

Likely Davis isn't activated this week. Looks like he just hit the field and they're bringing him along pretty slowly. But hey, I was wrong about Hairston being activated, so you never know. Considering the amount of teams in on Shaheed and Meyers, getting a trade done before the deadline was unlikely. Even if we had, it's still no guarantee they would have played him on just a couple days in the building. But we're in on Shaheed and Meyers and that can still happen.

Who's "Jones"?

There really isn't an option out there that can take our Offense (specifically our passing game) from what it's been to "unstoppable". But that doesn't mean we should just go "well, we can't upgrade to unstoppable so why upgrade at all?". Like I've said in another post, there may be no 5 Star fine dining options. But when you're literally eating spoiled, half eaten food out of a garbage can (as we are with those 3) - you'd kill for an order of food from Burger King. Rashid Shaheed has proven to be a very dangerous, speedy deep threat. Just the threat of him getting open on go routes would be massive for us. It would serve for teams to not focus entirely on Cook and crowd the line - as teams know we have no one who can beat simple man single coverage. Of course it would take some time for him to go beyond just a limited route tree. If he's willing to put in the work (as Cooper did) and stays healthy (as Cooper didn't) - I don't think it's the massive issue you think it will be. The bottom line is that we need all the help we can get. Even a limited Shaheed (who has more yards this season than any of our WR's) for a couple weeks would be a massive upgrade over half of our WR core. We simply cannot continue with what we have and expect to compete, even for the division. It's going to cost more than that for Shaheed. Reportedly there are multiple teams in the mix for him. With the need many teams have at WR combined with not a lot of WR's available and how Shaheed has looked this season - it will likely cost at least a 3rd, straight up.

The grand sum total of HALF of our entire WR core through the first 7 games *combined* is 13 catches for 164 yards and 1 TD. That's insanely bad. You really can't do much worse than what Tyrell Shavers, Elijah Moore, and Curtis Samuel are bringing this team. That's not even taking Keon Coleman into account. You're not wrong that there are variables such as learning the route tree and developing rapport with Josh. But if whomever we bring in can stay healthy, I would be shocked if they weren't better than what we're getting from those 3 - even with variables.

Thanks for the clairification.

Yeah, I agree. The Bills don't tell anyone in the media anything when it comes to these kind of things. It's just Sal looking at the guys that are presumed to be available and picking one that fits best. And it's pretty clear that the only names that are obvous are Rashid Shaheed, Brandin Cooks, and Jakobi Meyers. By the way, welcome back.