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The grand sum total of HALF of our entire WR core through the first 7 games *combined* is 13 catches for 164 yards and 1 TD. That's insanely bad. You really can't do much worse than what Tyrell Shavers, Elijah Moore, and Curtis Samuel are bringing this team. That's not even taking Keon Coleman into account. You're not wrong that there are variables such as learning the route tree and developing rapport with Josh. But if whomever we bring in can stay healthy, I would be shocked if they weren't better than what we're getting from those 3 - even with variables.

Thanks for the clairification.

Yeah, I agree. The Bills don't tell anyone in the media anything when it comes to these kind of things. It's just Sal looking at the guys that are presumed to be available and picking one that fits best. And it's pretty clear that the only names that are obvous are Rashid Shaheed, Brandin Cooks, and Jakobi Meyers. By the way, welcome back.

My only concern about Shaheed is that he seems to be the darling of multiple teams looking at WR. Which means there will probably be a bidding war and our perceived pick is lower than most (although I'd try and argue it may be higher than normal). I want Shaheed, but could easily see a scenario where it would take a 2nd for us to win the sweepstakes. Which is a steep price for a half year rental. Hopefully if it takes us a 2nd, we can do a swap of Day 3 Picks or something. And that it involved us getting a small extension done beyond just this season.

Well they went with the 7th Round Rookie. Hopefully they also sign Davis. It always drives me nuts when they bring in a 1 guy who has a resume amongst a bunch of guys with little to no experience and then pass on them.

Almost assuredly to the Practice Squad. Doesn't exactly have the kind of resume that screams off the street straight to the roster. And we have open Practice Squad spots. I hope we still sign Raekwon Davis as well. It always seems to work out like this where we bring in a list of tryouts, one name sticks out like a sore thumb, and we sign the guy with little to no experience.

Solomon is a key Special Teams player. Which is why he's active over Jackson, who doesn't play Teams.

People acting like we have a problem at Edge. The truth is he was always considered a Raw prospect that would probably require some development and honestly, we simply don't need him right now. We've got Joey Bosa, Greg Rousseau, Michael Hoecht (who looked damn impressive last week), and AJ Epenesa (who has made some serious plays for us this season and is a very solid rotational player). Edge isn't remotely the problem for us on the Defense. Considering the failures of our Secondary and Linebackers - they're doing a pretty good job of getting home with the little amount of time they have before the ball is out. Jackson, like other 3rd Round Picks in recent memory, was brought in more for replacing guys next season (as AJ Epenesa and Joey Bosa will both be Free Agents) and for depth this season. We've surprisingly stayed completely healthy at Edge and guys are performing well. So, again, we just don't need him right now.

No one is saying throw him on the field right now. You obviously don't do it until he's ready. But he's on the upswing. With Joe reporting he was seen in a helmet for the first time from what the media is allowed to see and Sal reporting that he expects him to be activated soon. You understand people return from injuries right? It's like you're arguing that since he was hurt a year ago, he'll never ever return and won't ever be an option. He'll be ready to take the field in the near future. Did he kick your dog or something? Like I don't understand dying on the hill of "Gabe Davis shouldn't be our 5th or 6th WR". Sticking with what we're getting out of the bottom half of our WR core bc you didn't like Davis as a starter is biting off your nose to spite your face.

You have to keep in mind, what we've heard is probably just the tip of the iceberg. The fact that the friggin' Raiders felt he was too much of a problem in their locker room and that they'd rather eat 35.2m in Dead Cap just to get him out of there speaks volumes.

What absolutes? That Gabe should provide more than guys like Shavers, Moore, and Coleman? Really not much of a stretch. The grand sum total through 7 games for *HALF* of our entire WR core combined is 13 catches for 164 yards and 1 TD. You're insane if you think we're better off with that. We have to try anything available at our disposal to improve the core anywhere. He didn't retear the PCL in Jacksonville, but the Torn Meniscus did require surgery - which he got practically 1 calendar year ago. He's on the upswing and has been doing more in practice. Obviously, you don't activate him until he's ready.

It wouldn't shock me to see us sign one of each. The thought process behind Phillips elevation being that we have Larry Ogunjobi and literally nothing else behind him at 3T and we've used up all 3 of Phillips's call ups. We also have nothing behind Deone Walker at 1T. But Daquan Jones should hopefully be back this week or next. In the meantime, we have 1 call up left for Phil Mathis if Jones isn't ready this week. Definitely the biggest name on this list is Raekwon Davis. A former 2nd Round Pick from 2020 and a PFWA All Rookie team selection. Signed a 2 year, 14m deal with Indianapolis in 2024. It didn't work out, as he wasn't a good scheme fit. So if we play to his strengths, he should be better than what he looked like in Indy:

If you think we're better off with what we're getting out of Tyrell Shavers (one of 3 WR's active every game and has gone without a catch in 5 of 7 games), Curtis Samuel (who's only been active for 3 games and has a total of 3 catches for 35 yards), and Elijah Moore (who's been active for 5 games and has 5 catches for 78 yards) - you're either a.) insanely out of touch or b.) letting your hatred for Gabe Davis and/or retreads blind you. We wouldn't activate Gabe Davis expecting him to be "the solution". We should still go out and trade for a WR. But he'd be an upgrade over what we're getting out of at least half of our WR core. And we need all the help we can get. I used this analogy in another thread - Gabe Davis is definitely not 5 star restaurant dining. He's like getting Burger King. But when you're literally eating spoiled, half eaten food out of a garbage can - you'll take some Burger King.

No, it's that Daquan Jones is coming back either this week or next week and we still have another Phil Mathis call up. Wherein we have Larry Ogunjobi and literally nothing else behind him at 3T and we've used all 3 of Jordan Phillips call up's.

This also means there's two veteran spots open on the Practice Squad.

Meyers, definitely. If not likely after the Lockett addition yesterday. Olave is not. Everyone under the sun, between the team and reporters have said he won't be traded. Beyond that, it's been reported that the Saints and Olave are working towards an extension. There was a possibility if he rebuffed their advances they'd move him. But he isn't doing that. Shaheed or Cooks is a different story. Jordan Addison? I don't know where all the talk of him is coming from. Is it just that they're a losing franchise? Bc no one of substance is talking about a potential Addison trade. Just "what if" scenarios from randos.

I'm sorry, did you say TWO 1st's and a 3rd... for Jordan Addison?! I mean, I like Addison. But that's insane. Tyreek Hill went for a 1st, a 2nd, 2 4th's, and a 6th in 2022. We got Stefon Diggs in 2020 for a 1st, a 5th, and a 6th. Addison isn't 2020 Diggs or 2022 Tyreek. I get the idea of trying to blow someone away with a trade. But if we're trading away multiple 1st's and a 3rd - it had better be a Top 10 WR1 in the league. That would be a major overpay. That's like a Quarterback trade.

I don't see Tucker being moved. Meyers is the guy that Vegas would trade, if anybody. And I think the Tyler Lockett acquisition today forecasts that. If you want speed and deep ball, it's Rashid Shaheed.

I do, actually. I think Keon has looked rough as a starter and has taken a step back in a Sophomore slump. There's no disputing that. But he's a better blocker (he was actually very good at that this week) and has shown (although very inconsistently) the ability to make some plays, lined up on quality NFL CB's. More often than not, the team's best CB. Shavers has not. He hasn't been making plays lined up against teams 2nd or 3rd CB's. For all his speed, he can not get open any better than Coleman can. If you want someone to get more reps than Coleman, WR6 on the depth chart wouldn't be my first thought. Shavers has shown absolutely nothing to deserve such a promotion. Coleman's the punching bag bc he was supposed to be the guy. But if it were just Coleman providing nothing we wouldn't be nearly as bad off as we are. The truth is, they've all been atrocious at getting open. Even Shakir, as good as he is in the open field and for as shifty as he is, can't get separation. That's why we're seeing so many screen passes at the line. The answer is simply not on the active roster. Best we can hope for is a Trade for the best guy we can get, Kincaid/Palmer getting back to 100%, and elevating Davis when he's ready.

I was with you up until this. Shavers has no business being on the field, period. He's not an NFL caliber WR. He looks decent enough lined up against other Practice Squad players and guys who will be out of the league during the Pre-Season. He's one of only 3 WR's on the roster to dress every game this year and has gone without a catch in 5 of the 7 games. He has not earned more playing time. If you think Coleman has a hard time getting open, you should watch Shavers running routes against actual NFL CB's. The only thing Shavers should be doing is being the first guy out to make room for whomever we Trade for and/or Gabe Davis when he's ready.

So you think we're better off with Tyrell Shavers, who has gone without a catch in 5 games while being dressed for all of them? Or Elijah Moore who has a total of 5 catches for 78 yards? Or Curtis Samuel, who's played in only 3 games and has a total of 3 catches for 35 yards? I vehemently disagree with this notion that we're better off not using him when that's what we're getting out of HALF of our WR core.

It should be both. Get the best WR you can in here via trade and elevate Gabe Davis. If everyone stays healthy and there's no one to IR, release Tyrell Shavers and Elijah Moore. Any upgrade over the pathetic WR room we have, no matter how small, should be exercised.

"Not a 3 Down Back" "Not a Top 10 RB in this league" "Isn't even worth 10m a year" "We'd be better off with Ray Davis"

You aren't seeing the forest from the trees. No one is pinning their hopes that he's our savior. But when you have a WR core that is filled with guys who can't get open, aren't producing, or in some cases (definitely Shavers) aren't NFL caliber WR's - Gabe Davis is an upgrade over at least a couple of the guys we have. I'm not saying get Gabe in here and we're set. Definitely see if you can get someone else in the Trade market (although Jakobi Meyers or Rashid Shaheed seem to be the only realistic options) as well. But any upgrades at any of the 6 spots on the Depth Chart should be made if possible. We need all the help we can get. You can put all the vomit emoji's you want. If you think we're not vomiting more from what we're getting from Tyrell Shavers or Elijah Moore - you're fooling yourself. Yeah. He also never had less than 549 yards or 6 TD's in a single year for us. Buffalo career highs of 836 yards and 7 TD's in 3 of his 4 years for us. I hate to break it to you, but guys like Tyrell Shavers (5x this season), Elijah Moore (2x this season), and Curtis Samuel have ALL put in 0 catch games for us already. And it's only been 7 games! Of course, Gabe Davis is more like eating at McDonald's than a 5 star restaurant. But when you're eating out of a literal garbage can, McDonald's is pretty enticing. Yeah, Hollins isn't an option though. Nor is there a Davante Adams level WR to be traded for this year. Likely the best we can hope for is something like a Jakobi Meyers and Gabe Davis replacing guys like Tyrell Shavers and Elijah Moore on the roster. It's insane to me that people honestly feel like we'd be better off just doing what we're doing over trying everything we can at our disposal. And Gabe Davis over any number of guys we have now would be an upgrade.

I assume you're joking - but either way, he isn't. He's done for the year.