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That's wonderful! So certainly since 2024, we have to still be #1, right? Or at least still in the Top 5? Because that would be some really concerning metrics that would lend credence to OP's point that the scheme has been figured out if we were #1 since 2018, but since 2024 weren't even in the Top 10...

You assume it's going to be a Late First Round Pick. From what we've seen over the past couple weeks that's FAR from a guarantee. If this keeps up, next year's 1st will be much closer to a mid 1st than a late 1st. Our "bend but don't break defense" is now simply a broken Defense. And it's not just a talent issue. The code has been cracked on McDermott's "exotic" scheme, after showing the same looks in the league for a decade plus. Do I want Olave? Yes. But we're not in a Rams situation where we're a contender and we just need a piece like him to take us over the top. I don't think Olave alone puts us back to Championship contender. We need a piece like him to simply get back to having a chance to compete and not having difficulties or straight up losing to poor teams. And if you look at his history, he has concussion issues and misses a fair amount of time. So yeah, I'm concerned about giving up a 1st, losing him and going back to what we saw the past couple weeks, and then not even having our reward for a lackluster season on top of it. If Beane decided to pull the trigger on the 1st for him, I wouldn't be upset. But there's a lot of variables involved. I also have a hard time giving away a 1st for a guy unless we've got him longer than a year and a half. Also, to the point that "who cares about a 1st?", surely pointing to what we've gotten from the picks we've made there over the past few years - you also have to take into account the last time we did that (the Diggs trade), we gave up the pick used to pick Justin Jefferson. The time before that we gave up the pick that became Patrick Mahomes.

That's my biggest concern - Beane not allowing people to say the simple morning radio host was right and he the prolific GM of the team was wrong. Especially in the arrogant way he went about that exchange. If we were to make a move, I could easily see the national media replaying that outburst back and calling him out for it. I worry he doesn't have the ability to swallow his pride and eat that kind of humble pie. Everyone wants Olave in a Bills uniform. Me included. If it were a 1 year rental, it would be easier. But with a full year and a half under contract - it won't be a small price. We'd probably have to include Samuel to help clear space as well, who has negative trade value. Which would make the compensation even more. The price for that would be fairly steep. Would Beane make that kind of move for a guy he only has for a year and a half with no guarantee beyond that? On the flip side, would he feel comfortable locking him up long term before seeing how he fits in the Offense and given his injury history? And given his history and the way the team looks, there's a scenario where you lose him and potentially the highest 1st we've had in a while. Lots of variables that make it tricky, even without taking into account the humility he'd have to show. If we can get it done for something like a 2nd in 2026 and a 3rd (maybe a 2nd if we have to) in 2027 with Samuel, i'd pull the trigger. But idk about a 1st and that might be a deal breaker. Fingers crossed though.

Watson is coming off an ACL tear and has had his Practice Window opened, but has yet to be activated. In a vacuum, I like Watson as a player. But asking him to learn a new playbook and develop chemistry with a new QB mid-season, while trying to get his feet back under him after a torn ACL is a HUGE ask. And we have no idea what he looks like coming off of the Torn ACL.

A couple days ago you posted this and I was a little taken aback that you made an acquisition post that was somewhat based in realism (although I'm out on 33 y/o Lockett). Obtaining Olave and elevating Davis to replace Moore and Shavers spots on the 53 seems to me the best slightly possible scenario we could hope for. And with one tweet from a legit reporter that we may be in the market and discussion about Olave/Shaheed by another - the realism is gone. We have a chance to get one of them and we should be thrilled if we're able to pull one off. But both? No way. They aren't trading both of them. The tweet talks about how they're unlikely to be able to keep both, so one *may* be traded to help ensure the other. They won't trade both. Even if they did, we wouldn't sign up for multiple WR's that need to learn the playbook and develop chemistry with Josh mid-season. Fingers crossed we can make a deal with New Orleans. But it won't be that one.

I knew Palmer and Jones would be out when McDermott hit 'em with the "Week to Week" designation before the Bye. Frustrated that Kincaid, Bernard, Milano, and Samuel still haven't gotten a Full Practice - in almost two weeks after he designated them all "Day to Day". The feeling he gave after the Falcons game and before the Bye was that we should have everyone back, save for Palmer and Jones. In McDermott's world, "Day to Day" means Weeks and "Week to Week" means Months.

Thank you! On a different note, over the years I've seen a lot of people say that we can "manipulate" the roster through IR's and PUP's. There were even posts in this thread alleging we were doing that with Strong to make room for others. And while it's true that we have "Redshirted" Rookies - there needs to be an actual injury to IR or PUP someone. It can be something small or a voluntary procedure on something small, that they then keep them on the list for. But you can't just willy nilly throw someone on a list to make room for others.

With what we've shown over the past 2 games, it's hard to believe we're legit contenders either. If I were a Panthers fan and watched the Falcons do what they did to us, down 2/3 of their Top 3 WR's, and knowing that the Panthers shut them out 30-0 when the Falcons were healthier - I'd be feeling good about their chances too.

After the past couple weeks, I don't think we have the right to call the Panthers our "AAA Farm Team". They've got a winning record and slapped around the same Falcons that punched us in the mouth to the tune of 30-0. Gonna have to earn this one.

I don't think Larry O's performance will determine anything when it comes to adding a Defensive Tackle. We've lost *three* DT's on the 53 since cutdown day. DaQuan Jones, T.J. Sanders, and DeWayne Carter. Sanders may be done for the year after knee surgery, Carter is definitely done for the year with an Achilles, and Jones will be down a number of weeks. When Carter went down, we didn't bring up another DT. We decided we'd roll with 4 instead of 5 and then called up DT's from the Practice Squad on a weekly basis for injuries. During that time we used all 3 of Zion Logue's call up's (until the Playoffs) and 2 of 3 call up's for Jordan Phillips. Since that time, we've lost Sanders (3T) and now Jones (1T). Larry Ogunjobi will take T.J. Sanders spot as the off the bench 3T for Ed Oliver, as that's where he played in Training Camp and the Pre-Season and that's the spot Beane said he'd be at. But right now, we only have Ed Oliver, Deone Walker, and Larry Ogunjobi healthy and on the 53. We started the league year with 5 DT's, now we're down to 3. You need to have a minimum of 4 DT's on the roster. We need to bring up Zion Logue to be behind Deone Walker at 1T, regardless of Larry Ogunjobi's activation and performance.

He's added Kelvin Benjamin and Amari Cooper in midseason trades during his tenure with the Bills. Both were colossal failures. Combine that with the fact that he had a very public crash out on WGR over not needing to add WR's. I have concerns that both his midseason trades not working in the past and to do so would make him look dumb after the outburst on Jeremy White will keep him from doing what should be done. I hope i'm wrong though.

He's a Bills Beat Reporter. He's going to post what the Coach says. The fact that he was asked about it and didn't rule it out kind of is important news.

Anyone replacing the injured players is already getting the increased reps on the Practice field, whether they are on the Practice Squad or the Active Roster. Moving them to IR immediately following the Falcons game or doing it later this week makes no difference as they have to miss 4 games regardless.

According to whom? Not saying that's incorrect. But there really hasn't been anything said about him since he signed almost 2 months ago.

Yeah, a Rookie who had all of Training Camp and all of the Pre-Season. A Rookie that they determined was ready. Not a Rookie who missed half of TC, all of the Pre-Season, hasn't practiced with the team since July, hasn't played a game of Football in close to a year, and most importantly - is coming off of a knee injury and one that they haven't had the time on field to determine whether they're ready. Also, Strong was pretty much out of complete necessity. Hairston was hurt. Tre was hurt. He earned the start for 1 week and then immediately went back to a limited snap count role.

Coleman hasn't been good. There's no disputing that. But saying he's "the worst receiver on the team" is hyperbole. Tyrell Shavers is not an NFL caliber WR, period. He looks good against Practice Squad CB's and guys who will be on the street after the Pre-Season. But the Pre-Season isn't reality. Elijah Moore has a total of 4 catches for 64 yards. Neither gets open more than Keon Coleman. I've been seeing so many say he's "the worst" WR on the team. He is not. He's the 3rd or 4th best WR. The issue is he's the 3rd or 4th best WR who was expected to be #1 and he's 3 or 4 on maybe the worst WR core in the NFL. Def not good. All that said, if they make a trade for someone, bring up Gabe Davis, and send Moore and Shavers packing - then it would be possible Coleman is the worst on the team. But right now, that's cap.

Old news and literally meaningless. It's one of 7 random photos of himself he posted in an album. Couldn't roll my eyes enough at people reading things into it. Should every photo of a player in uniform in another teams stadium mean that they're going to that team? It's just one of seven photos of himself that he liked and wanted to post. The fact that it was in our stadium has nothing to do with anything. People acting like he posted "Buffalo Soldier" or something...

Can you name me a team that takes a Rookie who's never played a down in the NFL, coming off of a Knee injury, missed half of Training Camp, all of the Pre-Season, hasn't practiced with the team in any way since July, and then threw them in the fire and started them at Cornerback immediately? He will see the field when he's ready. That's not a question. But he's going to need a couple weeks of practicing with the team and gelling with the guys around him and getting his assignments down before that happens. And when it happens, they aren't just taking White off the field and sticking him on the bench full time. He'll have to be eased in to get his feet underneath him, going up against other teams. It's going to be a multi week ramping up and easing in process. I get being mortified by Tre and being eager to get Hairston in there. But you can't expect a Rookie coming off a knee injury to be immediately activated and immediately started bc of that. He has to show he's ready. Forcing a Rookie into a tough situation before they're ready, that's how you ruin a player. You and this post is a prime example of why McDermott always stresses "managing expectations" every time Hairston is brought up by the media. They aren't going to change their development plan with him out of fan impatience or bc Tre is sucking. Hairston was going to get the same ease in process had he not gotten hurt. His getting hurt won't change things and make them push him harder now. Things just got pushed back. If all goes well, I'd expect Hairston to start by Week 11 or Week 12.

Agreed. But if teams have absolutely zero fear of it from a multiple standpoint of both Josh not being great at it and no one getting open - things remain the same. They'll continue to crowd the line of scrimmage, key in on Cook, send Safeties, and make life incredibly difficult in the short to intermediate areas. Josh has to work on it. He may never be great at it. But if we can get someone with deep speed and separation, they have to at least respect it. Even if he only hits it once in a while.

He has the dreaded McDermott "week to week". When his "day to day" often results in inactives (sometimes two weeks) and his "week to week" often results in being out as long as an IR (as seen recently with Ed Oliver) - i'd consider Palmer's at least a few more weeks. Especially with how bad it looked and it being an ankle on a guy who runs routes. I believe, had we not had a bye, they'd have probably IR'ed him. There's still an off chance they still could tomorrow. I think they hope with the Bye, he'll miss 2-3 weeks and IR wasn't necessary. But again, we've seen instances like Oliver in recent memory where "Week to Week" has meant 4 weeks down. It really boils down to what you consider long term. When it comes to McDermott, there's only 3 designations - "Day to Day", "Week to Week", and "IR". IR (especially) at this point is anywhere from done to *maybe* we'll get them back for the Playoffs. His week to week is long term to me.

He'll see the field. I never questioned that. But they aren't going to put a ton on his plate that first week. He'll be cycled in on a small number of plays. They'll ramp him up over the next couple weeks if he looks like he's taking to things well. But he's not moving Tre to the bench full time for a good number of weeks.

I agree with pretty much all of this. The only issue is Palmer is likely out for at least a few more weeks with the dreaded McDermott "week to week" and who knows what shape he'll be in when he returns. So leaning on him isn't an option for a while.

It's actually, in part, more realistic than what I'm used to seeing from you throughout the years. Though 3 moves aren't happening. Palmer will be down for a number of weeks, but he hasn't been placed on IR. He'll be back at some point and we aren't going to carry 7 WR's. Olave is the only big fish with any sort of possibility. And our best bet if we can't get him is Shaheed. Basically, I'd be all in on making a deal with the Saints. Outside of that, you're looking at maybe a Jeudy or Meyers. Maybe. Lockett... idk. He'll be turning 33, works mainly out of the Slot these days, the Seahawks cut him, and then the Titans felt he not only wasn't a starter, but barely used him. He's not Tyler Lockett anymore. If they thought he still has something and could help, I wouldn't be opposed. But I don't think he's any different than a number of guys we have now at this stage in his career and don't think he'd help much. But I'm with you on trying hard to get Olave. If we can't pry him away from them, then pivot to Shaheed. And then hopefully Davis is ready soon. Have them replace Moore and Shavers on the 53 and hope that opens things up for us.

It doesn't matter. They're 0-7. The season is over. Honestly, they'd be doing themselves a disservice by trying to win games. Just put Tyrod in and get to the finish line. My favorite streamer, Will Neff, is a Jets fan. So I hear a lot of Jets talk watching him. He has the right take. Sell off parts. Get as many picks as you can. Hope for the best pick you can get. Tear the whole thing down to the studs, save for a core of young cornerstones, and rebuild.