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Exactly. At this point people are running with totally unfounded salacious rumors as if they are fact. They should check out of this thread and turn on The View.

Yes, please tell us about true fans, FNG.

Excellent post. Daboll is getting lots of credit, and some of it is deserved, but largely it is just that he is being compared to such incompetent coaching that proceeded him, for many, many years. We will see his he does this year, but I think Jones will show himself to be the mediocre QB that he is. They are a distant third in that division at best. One other point: you would be hard pressed to find a single coaching technique or approach that Daboll used last year that did not come from his time with McDermott.

Maybe, but his agent is playing games here. Very obvious. McDermotts comment certainly did not precipitate Diggs actions. The agent is now using it to make his client look better.

Damn you!

I am sure that voice is just as credible as the plethora of unsubstantiated rumor and speculation being tossed around here this afternoon. All in all pretty entertaining for a Tuesday.

Do you actually have a source for this “information” or is it just unsubstantiated rumor and speculation? Enlighten us.

The continuing fascination with Hopkins is becoming laughable for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that he showing himself to be the opposite of the type of player who might put the Bills over the top.

I had not seen this posted yet. The contract details for Oliver are out. There is a good summary here: https://apple.news/ADJ6L-PASS_2cFdDkYyfP2w. The details are also available on Spotrac. As I suspected, it is essentially a new 5 year contract with an out after 3. Very cap friendly for the first two years. The details reenforce my view that this is a good value contract for a very good, though not elite, player.

You are doing a good job of bringing Newcam along, Scott. Good mentoring.

An incentive the individual cannot control is not an incentive. It needs to be personal performance based.

You make solid points. I just think generally it is a little early for this kind of analysis from any perspective. We do not know the full details of the contract at this point. Spotrac does not have it and if any other site has posted, I am unaware/could not find. I suspect if the details and terms were hugely favorable to Oliver we would have heard from his agent by now. The guarantees were are fairly low for a player of this caliber which makes me believe the Bills have outs 2 or 3 years in on the new deal, and that there is some significant contract money tied to incentives. I suspect this deal will look even better when full details are known. As it stands even with what we know, the Bills are locking up a solid and valuable starter at a premium position for a fair amount. They could certainly not replace him at this price, and while they could count on finding draft gold, that seems more unlikely than Oliver playing to his potential.

The next time he is right will be the first time. He is nothing but a troll.

I see you are now resorting to claiming that posters who do not agree with you just can’t appreciate your intellect. Too emotional. Just save it. That argument does not wash, ever, especially for you. For what it’s worth, Simon has more credibility around here than you will ever have. You should pick a fight with someone in your weight class. Welcome to ignore.

You should just ignore trolls like this. He has yet to post anything that deserves a response.

As soon as I saw this come across the wire I knew the cats would be screaming here. This is not a surprise to anyone paying attention. This contract makes Oliver the 16th highest paid DT in the league over the life of the contract, for production that is much better than that as you point out. The Bills chose this course rather than opening up a huge hole in the middle of their defense. How shocking. Oliver is not Donald which it seems most Bills fans cannot forgive him or Beane for, but he is one of the top players at his position in the NFL, with upside.

Because Daboll is trying to build a culture of winning and apparently Toney did not fit the profile he was looking for. It’s not just been availability with Toney but also attitude and other intangibles. KC has been willing to gamble on guys like that, but when you are trying to build from the ground up, probably not the best bet. (See Watkins, Sammy)

That’s how trolls do.

He will go where the most money is. By the way, has anyone else been tracking this? https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-deandre-hopkins-contract-saint-omni-free-agent if this connection is true, you can pretty much rule out the Bills IMO.

I could not agree more, especially with the last. I would also add, that when you have a player of Josh’s unique skill set, you do not choose to utilize only half of it, or attempt to neuter that natural ability and play making instinct that makes him what he is. If McD did that, then I would be calling for him to be fired, because he would be an idiot. You try to harness that ability and utilize it as efficiently as possible. There will come a day when Allen is no longer a threat on the run. They are a long way off from there. While he is, that threat makes Buffalo’s offense more dangerous to any team.

This is exactly the type of insightful and intelligent commentary we have come to expect from this particular poster.

Wow. Florio muckraking on the Bills. I am shocked by this development.

Big step up in class for Josh. Good for him.

Now that he is a free agent, I think you should take all his comments about where he wants to play, with what QBs, and that money is not the issue with a grain of salt. In the end, it will be about the money, just like it was with OBJ.

This “analysis” by Tucker is pure clickbait and nothing more. It reads like he put about 5 minutes of thought into it, which is 4 minutes more than I am going to give it.