Buffalo Junction

Fair enough. And if Payton - who retired - doesn’t want to coach this team who’s your Huckleberry? There are probably a minimum of 20 teams that would be willing to upgrade to McD.

Jack *****… which is my point. Dudes ragging McD, but not proposing realistic upgrades.

If you didn’t think Dorsey would have a lapse or lull at some point in the season I don’t know what to tell you. It’s part and parcel with the NFL that new OCs have a down stretch. Happens every year. As for the defense…. Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, Tre, Groot….. injuries effect gameplan and big plays. How many times have we seen White come down with that ball Jefferson stole from Lewis? That ain’t an option , so forget about it. Our D is F’d by injuries. The argument against McD is these repeated mid season lulls. Not individual games or even bad stretches in games. The repetition of October to November failures kills this team. That’s your argument. Not Shanny making Morse snap to Allen better. So McD should fire Dorsey and hire someone else? What’s your solution?

I’m cool with firing everyone. Maybe they’ll find the next guy. 🤷‍♂️. Maybe they’ll find a LeFleur to replace McDermotts McCarthy. Who knows. Grass ain’t always greener man. What would help though is having a healthy secondary and healthy linebackers. It’d probably also help to have a top five O line or an OC committed to running the damn ball. We can put all that on McD though and just assume Shanny would peg Beane into drafting offense in the first three rounds. That seems right.

Just McD, or are we swapping Frazier out as well? I doubt Shanny gets better results from our wounded warrior secondary than McD and Frazier. Dudes are just hurt; no Hyde, no Poyer, no Tre…..

Payton is better than Dorsey. Flesh out your question a bit more. If they stick with the run in the second half this game than that lead doesn’t deteriorate in the same manner. Allen’s numbers 1st half to 2nd half were very different…. As were Singletary’s. 🤷‍♂️. Coaching screwed the pooch, but I’m not sure it was directly McD so much as McD not reigning in Dorsey. That 1st on the goal line probably should have been a shotgun rpo with a sweep option.

With the other coaches teams, or that coach on th bills instead of McD? Those are different conversations. If you swap Allen for Jimmy G and Shanny is going to the SB. Swap Shanny for McD and I’m not so sure.

Absolutely not, but I definitely believe Tre takes that as a pick.

I’m not too down on Davis yet. Aside from his injury he’s only really been taken out by an all pro CB (Alexander) and the likely DROY (Sauce). That’s not too bad.

I’d lean towards the issue being that no one is stepping up as the third receiving option. Diggs and Davis used to get shut down for stretches during games, but Beasley and Knox stepped up and won their 1 on 1’s to either move the chains or hit a big play. This season Allen has resorted to RB dump offs instead which haven’t been as effective/consistent. Say what you want about Beasley, but he excelled at making catches at the sticks when the game got tough.

Well deserved. IIRC some dude on the Texans punched him in the throat and broke his larynx as well.

If there’s one thing the pats did as a favor to the league it was this…. Neutering Henry Anderson.

You’d have to keep a cap for all players or you end up with issues. It might be better to discount long term players contracts though…. Like every three years they’re on the same team they count as 5% less as a cap hit; so, year four 95% cap hit, year seven 90% cap hit, year ten 85% cap hit. It’d also allow some the aging vets to stay with their teams and retire there instead of being cap casualties in their final year or two.

Went to one of the florida franchises the company revoked?

I’m actually a bit surprised it took this long for the Giants to grab him off waivers/PS. Best of luck to him.

For sure. However, Allen will become a bargain going forward. They may have to pay Tua Mor per year than were paying JA17.

Which is going to get interesting because Hills cap number goes from $6 million to $31 million next year. They have quite a few guys with cap numbers that go up dramatically in the next 2 years; Ogbah, Hill, Howard, etc.

Probably not, but who knows. None of those guys are hurting for money. He’ll probably just pay and then reduce the fluff afterwards. Business is business and if he tries it and gets a rating boost he’ll keep it up.

Depending on what he’s capable of putting into public conversation he could potentially provide ammo or witnesses for congressional hearings. 🤷‍♂️. Gonna be interesting to see if something actually happens, but I’d be willing to bet he gets a ratings spike if he starts doing a “dark side of the league” segment every week.

I agree with this. I think an important aspect we’re neglecting though is that high school and middle school football has also moved to spread offenses. That shift started to happen around ten years ago. As such we’re now seeing a majority of QBs and Olinemen coming into the NFL having never (respectively) played under center or in a three point stance. Those early repetitions can be critical for technique, especially for linemen who are learning to manipulate leverage against different body types. Basically, these guys aren’t getting their 10,000 repetitions until their rookie contract is expiring. The flipside of linemen and QBs delayed development in traditional offenses is defensive exposure to the spread. All of these defensive players have now been seeing variations of these plays since 8th grade. Not only are they are coming into the league with all of the reps and experience to defend against spread offenses, but those who excelled defending it have risen to the top. What’s interesting to me is that many of the defensive fundamentals haven’t changed while Oline techniques have. Front 7 players have just learned how to track motion from running options instead of keying off of fullbacks. Personnel wise I think Belichick kind of had the right idea with going back to a 2 TE run based offense. Unfortunately for him finding the players to execute that offense isn’t easy with todays players. The Packers pulled this off for the past few years, but haven’t been able to retain interior linemen and have now lost the receiving talent to force light boxes. 49ers are probably the best case of this working. It seems that the only way to make that team building concept work long term is to have an above average QB on a reasonable contract so you can afford better linemen. As a result offenses probably won’t change unless QB pay is limited to a lower percentage of the cap.

You joke, but it’s possible… Hackett and Rodgers got along splendidly. I wouldn’t rule out Hackett being the locker room mediator who kept Rodgers in check.

Gary being out would be a huge loss for that defense.

What’s surprising about him being held out of practice? He tore his ACL in the second half of last season and has been getting a lower workload this year as he plays his way back to form. Plus, there’s no way in hell that any NFL team trades away a probowl lineman on a rookie contract that can play every position on the Oline. The only way a guy like that gets shipped off is if he beats down the starting QB in practice after getting caught with three kilos of Peruvian marching powder.

Difference is Ahman Green was averaging almost 5.5 yards per carry, and was stuck behind Ricky Waters who was still rattling off 1200 yard seasons. Plus, you can’t teach speed which unlike Green, Moss doesn’t have.

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