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The 2012 or so Patriots broke a lot of brains. That run when it seemed like they were hanging 50 every week was the extreme outlier, but I think some still expect to see that from the Bills. There is no single dominant team anymore and there hasn't been for awhile.

How in the world did his offense let Shaq launch into him like a missile completely unblocked after he was out twice for a rib injury? I recoiled, it was insane to see them let him get hit like that so late. Awesome for us and Shaq though of course. Jets still have a ton of issues, I'm not worried about them at all really

Difference maker. I can't wait to watch him wreck Tua next week. Loved the confidence in the rest of the squad that Von had earlier this week, he knows what we all know. Groot is the future.

Does it feel any better now after Tua's 10-28 meltdown vs. a somewhat average Chargers team? Hard to win in this league, extremely hard to string 4 in a row together Always annoying Baltimore still hanging out too. Agreed, will shake out roughly the same as least year

10-28 tonight give that very short man some more votes

I really enjoyed when he started trying to make up his own lyrics to a Christmas song, I think Nance even helped him out with a rhyme and Tony was like nah dude I got it, decided not to rhyme at all, and then he just continued to ramble and make what really just amounted to strange sing-songy noises before the commercial break. Extremely cringe can be entertaining, I agree.

This is the Tua that I hope slides into the playoffs. 10-28 lololol. And some were almost trying to argue that he's on Allen's level. Gonna be a weird week for the Fins trolls. A "boring" win vs. your QB losing with a 35% completion percentage. Good luck trying to spin this weekend. The Bills are the far superior team. AFC Wild card kind of turning into a mess. Thought the Jags had one more win than they do. Jets or Pats even could stumble into a spot.

KC almost lost to the Denver Broncos, the absolute worst offense in football. No question. An awful, awful team that's far worse than the playoff Jets. Ridiculously lazy trolling.

No more Thanksgiving games. Sucks of course but there's a ton of young talent and I'm sure he'll still be involved on the sidelines. Rousseau and Epenesa are getting healthy, Shaq did some things last week. Boogie pops up randomly every now and then. I'm not as distraught as I feel I should be.

I remember Reggie White being like Michael Jordan in 1992, in Western NY. Kids had tshirts and everything. He should be in any football fans top-3 pass rushers of all time, arguably #1. It's an impossible comparison to begin with, but you're absolutely right that the big strong dudes last longer and even get better with age. Von is uniquely more long and twitchy than a lot of the 90s bulldozers. More Jon Bones Jones than Daniel Cormier.

Match made in heaven, I don't even care. Pro Bowl sucks. Let Tua be the Pro Bowl king that loses in the first round of the playoffs. It's not even worth it to me for Josh to slip coming off the bus for this clearly antiquated, dumb game that none of us watch or actually care about.

I've been a few times but it's been several years, but the actual inner core of Miami the city is the ugliest, boring, most depressing city I think I've ever been to, and I've spent quite a bit of time in Indianapolis. It's not even where the violence or crime is, that's more north and in the outskirts in all directions. It's also not where the fun is, which is South Beach. It's just a hot concrete mess of hotels and banks with no food, it absolutely sucks.

I thought Von provided a pass rushing spark that this team hasn't seen for at least a decade. Compare him to his early career if you must, and very few are going to actually be better later in their career, but he could clearly still dominate. Had 8 sacks in 11 games and can only be a positive for the young guys, I'll call that great. Speaking of Hughes though...wasn't he kicking water coolers and fans were having fun speculating his return only a couple of weeks ago? Surprised I haven't seen more chatter, would love to add him back to the rotation, even though it is now clearly Groot emergence time.

They really have a few guys now on offense that just haven't taken that next step in multiple seasons - Hardman, Edwards-Helaire (fell off a cliff). McKinnon gets all the credit in the world for coming back from his injuries but he's never going to touch the ball more than 10 times a game. It's pretty much Isaiah Pacheco and Juju after Kelce right now. I don't think that's going to cut it.

Nick Squidward is the worst (so maybe best?) kind of troll in that he's faked respect for the Bills about 20 times now, and yet always reverts to being the annoying child that his extended family has probably always disliked. Can't help himself. Best to just ignore. And then mock him for ages regardless of how petty it gets when the Bills outlast the Chiefs in the playoffs.

I'm pretty convinced that the bottom is going to fall out for either the Jets, Miami, or both. I think they've both peaked, New York especially. Mike White is a clear upgrade over Wilson, but he's still not the game changing QB that will do something against a consistent pass rush. I wouldn't be surprised if the D-line eats him alive next week, even without Von. And then you can't really turn to Flacco because he's an even worse statue against the rush. Jets are just buying time right now. They turned some heads but it was always about the next year or two for them. Somebody's going to make a move in the AFC, although it may not really impact the Bills much if we keep the #1. Got to think it's either Vegas or Cleveland now with Watson.

Kind of makes you think - has this approach worked for anybody recently? I know it worked for Aaron Rodgers but 15 years ago isn't recently of course. Seems that any of the recent young QBs that have had any success were thrown right in (Allen, Burrow, Tua, Fields, Herbert, etc.) On the other hand I can't think of a single one that was "developed" for a year plus. If anything, for the past couple of decades or so it seems like if a QB doesn't start right away that controversy just brews and then they eventually don't deliver.

You're probably right, but let's see how these injuries play out. I'd rather play the Fins without Tua than the Raiders right now. Said it a few weeks ago that Adams bashing the team got them fired up. Was met with some eyerolls but now they're back in the conversation because all Carr apparently has to do is fling the ball down the field and Adams will go get it for 2+ TDs a game. Vegas was never as bad on paper as their early record, I could see them taking the Chiefs if they keep the momentum they've had for the last few weeks.

Edmunds dummies always been wrong. He's a gigantic match-up nightmare. Rangy predator on the field. Somewhat timid, maybe, but it's slowly leaving with every start. He's going to be the 29-30 year old game wrecking savage that everybody wants. Yes, I'm bring up his age again, because yes he's accomplished a tremendous amount early. Just imagine this dude in even 2-3 years. Tremaine is the Josh Allen of this defense. Lock him down.

9-3 indeed. I'm a little worried about his output but it's clearly not really necessary right now. I think he has the talent to spark up at any moment which is nice. More worried about our TE2. Sheesh, talk about an ignored role. We got old 1970s brickhands Sweeney causing penalties and a very unproven Morris, who does seem sort of nice in his limited time. Regardless, the fact that our TE2 consists of basically otherwise ignored no-names is a tiny bit more concerning, we need to bolster every bit of this offense. It's Knox or nothing at that position right now it seems.

Diggs very real pace at this point late in the season: 129 rec, 1702, 14TD Even with the extra game that’s incredible. Shortly after a very real 1500yd season. Moss-like, no joke

The only detractors that I can find act like his early WR2 seasons weren’t significant but even those were Andre Reed level statistically. You don’t have to be Justin Jefferson out of the gate, Diggs early years were pretty awesome. More importantly he’s on a historic run right now. Few receivers have put together a 4(+) year string like this.

Also saw a lot of “we gave up Zack Moss and picks for this!” etc in the GDT thread, as if there’s still hope for Zack Moss. Zack Moss had 1 carry for 2 yards last game for Indy. Prior to that he had, wait for it…2 carries for 7 yards, a career high for his time in Indy. He’s very much Zack Moss. It was Hines for a late round draft pick, Moss is meaningless.

Cole can’t do what McKenzie did tonight, sorry. Not current present day old rickety man Beasley. Lil dummy or whatever, he and Shakir are at a different tier of athleticism right now. Beas bowed out for a reason.

Exactly how I feel. Although his returns today were pretty lame compared to previous. Still feels potentially more successful than the Jamison Crowder experiment.