Norcalbillsfan

If he really did flat out say no I don't wanna go to Buffalo then good luck to any team that wants him, he's out to pad his Hall of Fame stats or jump on team that's already going to be in the Superbowl.

The more QBs taken high the better for Buffalo. Let those DL and OL fall down the board.

Wonder what Washington would have to give for rosen. Never been a fan of Rosen but the guy didn't get much of a chance in Arizona

This is fantastic news, especially if they are dumb enough to trade the kitchen sink for #1. we could get the #1 OL or one of the top DL. Possibly even trade down and still get a top OL.

Totally agree, I think it will be OL in the first, unless one of the top 3 DLs falls to us then it's interesting. But we can't run or pass block at all right now. DLs are pretty deep, we can easily get DL talent in the second.

I disagree unless we get substantial help in FA/draft. McD will want to keep at least one receiver that's had a year with Allen. I have no problem with Zay as a wr3/ rotational guy. Foster has the strongest chance of keeping his job at this point.

That was a hard one for the saints, but we all know who is going to get all the calls with the Rams and Pat's. Donald better put on some fluffy mittens and gently lay Brady on a bed of pillows if he doesn't want a roughing the passer call.

Might be able to get more for Rosen right now, then if the league sees him lose a QB battle to a rookie next year. Plus Kingsbury was around Rosen in college, for all we know he might not like Rosen from his attitude in college and love Murray's attitude. I'm wildly speculating at this point but I definitely see your point. I see more teams swinging for the fences on Haskins in the first, but Murray seems like he's in the convo cuz there isn't much else.

The only reason I think tyrod is an upgrade from bortles is the pics and his running ability. Tyrod doesn't have a better arm and isn't an overall better QB than bortles, I just think the jags could have used tyrod to help the run game and not throw pics. I don't think what happened this year was all on bortles, the jags didnt need alot from a QB with that defense they just needed someone that didn't throw pics and maybe some designed QB runs to soften up defenses and open up play action and tyrod can do that for you. Would tyrod be able to go out and keep up with offenses like the Rams, cheifs, and saints in the post season? No. But I think the jags would have had at least a respectable year with tyrod at QB.

I think the dolphins would be crazy to let tannehill go. Not saying he's a franchise guy but other than foles, what FA is better than tannehill? And the draft class is pretty low for QBs. This last qb class was the fins chance. I think they ride out tannehill for another year and hope for a rookie next year

I think tyrod was exactly what the jags needed this year, a guy that won't throw pics and use his feet. Won't win games with his arm but if the defense can hold teams to feild goals then tyrod can win you games. I think the jags D is still elite but they just flat out gave up cuz the dumpster fire offense.

Totally agree, very tough to go out and get 3 starting caliber o lineman in one year. Might be able to get 1 premier guy in FA, then maybe get another serviceable starter. Then hopefully a starter in the draft but not likely at 9 with a few teams ahead of us also needing lineman.

I think it comes down to the player. Either money or a chance at a Superbowl or even how the team is playing at the time. Like I bet free agent o lineman are telling thier agents to talk to Beane cuz the bills are gonna PAY some lineman if they are available. And with our rising star QB and lack of competition, receivers might be attracted to buffalo. But would any rbs be excited to come to buffalo after watching shady struggle?

I think if elway wasn't a legend in Denver, any other team would send him packing.

Agreed, I could totally see big Ben as a massive D bag. But the guy always shows up and wants to win super bowls, hes not after QB records he wants rings. Every year we see him limp on to the feild banged up but still goes out and tries to win games. You have to show up for your team, you can't walk out on them when they need you. That's gotta be tough see as a Steelers fan.

Not interested in bringing him to Buffalo. His talent undeniable, but he could be a poison in the locker room for a young bills team trying to build something. It's pretty obvious he's not in it to win super bowls as a team, he's in it for himself.

I wasn't huge on Allen but I did not want Rosen at all so the Allen pick was bitter sweet. Now I love the excitement he brings to the game, he's fun as hell to watch play and I believe he can take a team to the post season if he has the weapons and protection, but do I believe the bills will do that.... I'm skeptical.

So incredibly undisciplined to jump right there. Doesn't mean much right now cuz we are up. But games against the Patriots that's why we lose.

Yes the Cardinals lost their entire o line, but according to football outsiders that do in depth statistics, the Cardinals o line that are pretty much second stringers are performing better than the bills starters. And statistacly David Johnson (other than injury) has been much better than shady the past few seasons. And obviously Larry is better than any than any bills receivers and Christian Kirk has out performed almost all bills receivers in yards. Not saying the Cardinals are a bunch of all pros but the bills have maybe the least talent on offense in the NFL. According to football outsiders statistics as of 12/25 QB= Bills > Cardinals RB = Bills<Cardinals WR= Bills<Cardinals TE = Bills>Cardinals ( croom, not clay) Oline= Bills<Cardinals Offense overall= Bills #31> Cardinals #32 (Josh Allen's rushing has saved the bills rushing stats)

The Cardinals have more talent than the bills. Allen is the only bright spot on the bills. Rosen has not been the bright spot on the Cardinals.

I think we could have gotten a 3rd for shady early this year from a playoff hopeful team, but now... I don't think anyone could get a 3rd.

Totally agree, I don't think very many people grasp how really bad the talent is around Allen right now. And our o line is so bad shady can't get going to take some heat off. How many rookie QBs are asked to come in and asked to become the franchise with the worst receiver core in the NFL, and bottom 5 o line in the NFL. I honestly can't think of a recent worse receiving core paired with a rookie QB.

Exactly, Jones and foster are wr3 at best on most teams

Right now Darnold has a better o line and a better receiver core. I'm more worried about them getting talent around Allen. Bills have allot of holes to fill, especially on the o line. You rarely can fill holes on the o line and get a whole new receiving core in one season. I think it's going to take alot longer to build around Allen than darnold.

A game this bad is how coaches get fired. Not getting out the pitch forks yet, but games like this at the end of the year shows nothing but regression.