MJS

They beat the Chiefs in the regular season. They have quality performances in the regular season too. Hey, I'm not saying there isn't anything to fix. They need to evolve for sure. I've said I would be happy to move on from Frazier and inject some new life into the defense. Clearly something needs to change to get over the hump in the playoffs. Moving on from McDermott is not the answer. That would be a disaster, in my opinion.

McDermott took the Bills to the playoffs his first year with a crap team and crap QB.

That's what everyone said about Andy Reid.

Yeah, my family always had issues with snow and rain. Way more often than any internet streaming issues. Not sure what people are talking about.

Yeah, if Mahomes never played again we'd be lamenting what he could have been. Nobody would say he is top 5 all time. Anyone who does is projecting the rest of his career.

Montana is the best ever if Brady didn't come along. He was awesome. Brady solidified it by going to another team and winning a superbowl. He proved he could do it without Belichick, and the Pats have been mediocre since Brady left. (Similarly, I give major points to Manning for doing the same thing). It's splitting hairs, though. Both are all time greats.

The Patriots were a product of Tom Brady... Sorry. I think it is pretty clear he was the best ever. I think he has his warts and the cheating scandals, but there's no denying what a winner he was. And his longevity is insane.

I'd leave both out of the top 5 personally. 1) Tom Brady 2) Joe Montana 3) Peyton Manning 4) Drew Brees 5) John Elway It gets progressively harder to rank after that, but you have Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Johnny Unitas, Dan Marino, Fran Tarkenton, Steve Young, Bart Starr... mix and match those how you want. It's tough to rank the old time greats with the prolific newer generation.

Why?

Really? He has one of the best statistical defenses in the league over the past 4 seasons. These are just childish takes that are impossible to support with any kind of facts.

Frankly, I don't care what the coaches say to the media. Never have and never will. If you are waiting for coaches to tell you the complete and honest truth through the media, you'll be waiting for a long time. If they are not willing to address it behind closed doors though, yes, that's a problem. But fans are not privy to those conversations. But we do know that McDermott has taken play calling away from Frazier in the past. McDermott knows when it is Frazier's fault and when he needs to step in versus when it is the fault of mental errors by the players themselves.

How could it plummet to 32nd in the playoffs when there are only 14 teams in the playoffs?

Yeah, McDermott is so incompetent: Defensive rankings: 2019: 2nd 2020: 16th 2021: 1st 2022: 2nd Win Loss record: 2019: 10-6 2020: 13-3 2021: 11-6 2022: 13-3 Best win percentage in franchise history. 4th best win percentage in the NFL currently. 21st all time in NFL history and ahead of coaches like Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, Sean McVay, John Harbaugh, Pete Carrol, etc. (Just needs to get his superbowl like they have) He is among the league leaders in following analytics and being appropriately aggressive on offense. It's just so clear that he is a high quality head coach. He needs to get over the hump in the playoffs, but if we move on from him, it will not be good. And he will get scooped up immediately to be head coach of another team. And he'll probably turn around that team too.

Both McDermott and Frazier claim that the defense is Fraziers. Frazier is also the assistant head coach. Frazier also calls plays for the defense. It's pretty clear that Frazier runs the defense besides those few games that McDermott temporarily took away playcall duties (usually with great results, mind you). Now, I'm sure McDemott is involved in game planning and he helped structure the scheme, and he probably gives some orders in key situations on game days, like every head coach. Frazier is the defensive coordinator and fully operates as one. There's no reason to believe otherwise.

So, if the Bills go win the superbowl with McDermott and Allen, and then have to rebuild for 8-10 years, what happened to Allen? I guess that means he ends up being mediocre for the next decade, which sucks to think about. How could that be? Or, maybe he has a career ending injury, which is incredibly sucky to think about. I'd take the superbowl, but it is hard to imagine being a mediocre team afterward for a decade while still having an elite QB and a superbowl winning coach. McDemott is always good for getting his teams to the playoffs. I think what would be more likely is you win the superbowl and then fail to get back for the next decade even though you still have a good team most years (because you still have an elite QB and a good coach). Similar to Rodgers and the Packers, or Brees with the Saints (in fact, the Saints missed the playoffs for a stretch there when their defense was atrocious).

Got to hand it to the Broncos. They are always doing something questionable. Makes them interesting. Seems like they throw away a lot of money and high draft picks, though. Yep. But he lucked into a single superbowl win with one of the greatest QB's of all time, and so he walks on water. I remember all those years he missed the playoffs with Brees throwing for 5000 yards every year. McDermott would literally have his head on a pike if that happened.

OK, can you imagine a scenario where it is ever appropriate to point a gun in a woman's face and say: "You should be popped in the face. I should shoot you now. The police can get me."? It doesn't really matter what happened. That's never going to be an appropriate response. The dude is unhinged. He should already be in jail anyway for knocking out another woman. He shouldn't be in the league. I agree with you on something. Pigs do fly!

If I was to move on from a coordinator, it would be Frazier. McDermott has taken playcalling duties from him multiple times over the years in specific games. When he does, it usually has fantastic effects and gives the defense a spark. McDermott is really good at coaching up the secondary as well. I personally think that he covers up a lot of inefficiencies from Frazier with his involvement. Separate Frazier from McDermott and put him on a team with an offensive head coach, and I would think he would not have as good of results in the regular season. I've also seen a real lack of evolution with this defense and an inability or unwillingness to adjust at times. Even if that is on McDermott, maybe bring in another coordinator who can inject some new life and new ideas into the defensive scheme.

Half the things you just mentioned are the GM's responsibilities. The head coach is like the COO of an organization. Firstly, they build the program. They build the coaching staff, including hiring the offensive and defensive coordinators. They decide the fundamental aspects of the team, such as style of offense and defense, aggressiveness, adherence to analytics, etc. They are involved in game planning on both sides of the ball (including tons of film study). They decide the practice schedule. They evaluate the development of players and help determine rosters and the depth chart. They hold coordinators, other coaches, and players accountable. They also provide leadership and motivation, and help spur certain players to take up leadership roles on the field and in the lockerroom. On game days, they are there to watch the clock, see that game plans are followed, provide direction to coordinators when needed, constantly gauge the pulse of the team and provide leadership and motivation when needed, and to be involved in key situations and ultimately make the right call. They also converse with officials to understand how the game is going to be called and make that known to the coaches and players. They throw the challenge flags. McDermott specifically has been poor at challenges, but he is one of the top coaches in the league at following analytics and making the proper situational calls (despite what clueless fans claim). He has a key, unfortunate choke with the 13 seconds debacle that is seriously hurting his record, but for the most part, he does a good job on game days (outside of challenges). I think Frazier is the problem on defense. McDermott has taken play calling away from him multiple times, and it almost always instantly improves the defense and provides a spark. That says to me that McDermott is covering up some of Frazier's poor performance as a coordinator, since McDermott is such a good defensive mind. McDemott trusts his coordinators too much, I think. People have been calling for his head for years now. If you don't see that here, you simply haven't been reading many posts.

Coordinators have jobs to do and you evaluate them like any other position. If you feel like they are chronically underperforming, and you believe they are a part of the problem, you should fire them and find a new one. Yeah, if you are just firing them to send a message or to have a scapegoat, that's stupid. But if you are not impressed with their schemes, playcalling, leadership, player development, game plans, etc., you fire them. It's totally possible for the problems on one side of the ball to be the coordinator's fault. Yes, ultimately the head coach has to answer for everything, but it's also up to the coach to make personnel changes when needed. Bringing in the right coordinators is a huge part of the job.

You obviously have not read much here. There is post after post after post about firing McDermott. And it just sounds like you don't understand what head coaches do. That's on you, not McDermott.

Rodgers is probably more like almond milk, or something. Milk would throw off his chakras.

I think McVay is too high. His luster has worn off for me. I also think you have Saleh and McDaniels too high. But I think you have McDermott in the right place. He is in that 5 to 10 range. Good coach.

I've heard this before...

I have to agree. I would not be opposed to moving on from Frazier. This defense needs an injection of new ideas and scheming. It has gotten stale.