MJS

No, he could not win in the playoffs. McDermott can. It is completely different.

McDermott hasn't had even one down year unless you want to count Allen's rookie season.

You should do an analysis of coaches who are fired after consecutive 10+ win seasons, winning the division, winning playoff games, and having top 10 ranked offenses and defenses. I bet the list is pretty small. Not making a superbowl is not what will get a coach fired. Having subpar seasons will get you fired, such as missing the playoffs multiple times, or not being able to win a playoff game after a bunch of tries, or having losing seasons. Getting to the playoffs and winning playoff games after winning the division and having excellent regular season records is just not going to get you fired, usually.

Great. I hope they stay for a lot longer. I like both of them.

That's not the conclusion.

Actually, he said that you have games where the offense has to overcome bad defense, and where defense has to overcome bad offense. You need to have both, according to the OP.

I mean, they would be open to trading any player "under the right circumstances". If KC wanted to trade us Pat Mahomes and 10 first round picks for Josh Allen, I'm sure we'd do it.

People are getting bent out if shape about this? Man, these fans... McDermott can't buy a new coffee machine without getting criticism.

Ok. That's what I was wondering. It's not the best, but at least it has history.

Agreed. That was my criticism as well. Does that version of the lion have some type of history with the team, perhaps? That combo looks bad to me. I do not like the gray uniforms with that helmet.

Ok. You are just making it clear you don't know how it works.

They already have a good running back. I don't know why they would do this.

The language is in the original contract.

I was too late. I was going to say "He wants back on the Chiefs!" He is one of the bad ones for sure. He should be in jail.

I'm going to my couch to watch it on TV, baby!

That's not how restructuring works. They didn't need to give him a reason or give him a crap load more money. They accelerated his salary, converting it into a bonus which gives him all the money upfront and allows them to spread his contract out, lowering his cap hit. Players like it because it gives them their money sooner. Teams like it because it gives them cap flexibility. Owners have to write big checks, though. They don't sit down and negotiate anything. Diggs didn't do the Bills a favor by agreeing to restructure. It is a win-win for the player and the team. It is already expected to happen when these contracts are signed.

Well, this is a philosophical discussion about who deserves the most credit for winning. Obviously, the QB is a big piece of that. Everyone knows it is the most important position. Behind every great coach there was a great QB, and behind every great QB there was a great coach. It is hard to know where that line is drawn. For you, you lean very hard on the QB, and that has merit. I'm probably not as far as you are, because I still think coaches deserve a lot of credit too. Getting your team to a .500 record is pretty good if you don't have a good QB. McDermott took the Bills to the playoffs his first season without a good QB. You can discount that for whatever reasons you want, but he did it, and he was a big reason why it happened. I think it is clear he is a good coach. Is he a great coach? I don't know. That remains to be seen. To be considered great he would need to win a superbowl. That is what he is lacking. And he has to go through KC, who has a great coach, and a bunch of other good coaches too. That's what is difficult. He has to be better than good to get it done. But I think he can get there. You might not. We'll see who wsd right eventually. He deserves criticism, but not to the level a lot of fans take it, in my opinion.

I think Josh Allen was making the correct reas on many of those deep throws. If he sees one-on-one coverage, he'll let it rip. Normally that's good, but sometimes we needed higher percentage throws in certain situations, or we needed a chain of short throws to free up some of the deeper stuff. Film watchers claim there were plenty of dump offs and underneath routes open for him to take, but he didn't. That has been a problem at times throughout his entire career. Situational he needs to reign himself in and make the smart play, sometimes. I have no idea what is coming from Dorsey and what is his fault. I am sure he is to blame for some of it. All I can point to definitively is the execution on the field. It is easier to identify when a player messes up compared to a coach. Any complaints about the scheme and playcalling are speculative. Dorsey also deserves credit for the offensive success we had last year too. I think his future is promising, honestly. There is no reason to believe he won't continue to adjust and get better, just like Josh Allen did as a QB or any other player or coach does. It was his first year. There were plenty of complaints about Brian Daboll here too. Now, he is revered by Bills fans like they forgot they used to say nasty things about him.

Well, I am a supporter of Sean McDermott. I credit a lot of the success and building of our current team to him. I don't think we can divorce the success of the team and put it all on Josh Allen. McDermott built it all and we are only in the position we are in today because of him and the team he built, including Beane. The team needs to continue to push for a championship, and that ultimately rests on Sean McDermott's shoulders. I understand that failures to get over the hump reside with him as well, but let's not pretend like he wasn't an integral part of getting us where we are today. And let's not pretend like Josh Allen and many of the players on this team have not been a part of the failures too. They all go together. I love Josh Allen, but Dorsey wasn't holding a gun to his head telling him to throw deep so much or throw bad interceptions. Everyone needs to step up. There is plenty of blame and praise to go around. I'm not anywhere close to giving up on this team or the head coach.

I think it is foolish to make the comparison at all, based on playcalling only. For one thing, McDermott has very limited experience calling plays as the head coach, like only a game or two. He hasn't even done it, so why would we compare him to other head coaches who have? Maybe we need to see how he does before we start comparing him to Tomlin or Belichick or any of the others mentioned. Maybe the whole thing is meaningless anyway. I also don't think his time as a coordinator is very valuable in determining how successful he will be calling plays in Buffalo. It was with a different team, with different priorities, different players, a completely different offense and situation. We'd have to look into how much they prioritized defensive personnel for McDermott. We know they had Keuchly, but they also let Norman walk and had a talent starved secondary that year, if I remember. We can look at his tendencies as a playcaller, but he might not be the same now because he has a completely different cast of characters to work with now, plus he may have evolved as a coach. All we know is that others say he is more aggressive than Frazier, which sounds good but doesn't mean a whole lot. Locked On Bills just had an episode about what his playcalling may be like, and suggested a lot of simulated pressures, but it is all guesses. I like to see how things go before I condemn or champion something. I was the same with Josh Allen. When I see good signs, I make that known. When I see poor signs, I talk about that too. For instance, I talked a lot about moving on from Frazier this offseason, and I advocated moving on from Jerry Hughes the last couple of years he was here, because he wasn't producing. I was VERY dissapointed with that hire, just like I was disappointed with the Chan Gailey hire, although I warmed up to Chan. Rex did come with defensive success, so I was willing to see what he could do with an already stellar defense. Well, he destroyed it, and I was vocal about his failures and wanted him gone, as were most Bills fans.

Not when the whole point is that defensive play calling coaches can't win superbowls. If you have criticism for Sean McDermott, it needs to come from somewhere other than that. The premise of the thread is false. The other criticisms you have are probably valid, although I'd have to dig into it more.

He seems pretty generic to me. What is it you and others like about him so much? He is just unaware of Tyreek's history of child abuse. Otherwise, he would not have gone there.

You didn't cherry pick, the OP did. My comments were about the premise of the thread.

Yes. Literally that is what this thread was started for. To compare HC's who called defensive plays. Why? Because the OP cherry picked a couple of names in bad faith and tried to use that to show why McDermott would not be successful. But his list was so incomplete it is laughable. If you are trying to take the conversation somewhere else, that is up to you.

Shows your lack of research skills. There are so many more HC's over the years, including superbowl winning coaches, who called defensive plays for their teams. Typical Chaos thread.