Richard Noggin

Congrats!!! What greater vindication than this?!

No way the son of Al Davis would reach on a solid all around WR (projected more to slot but we know how those slot projections go...like with that LSU x Minn WR) from Ohio St when an absolute BURNER from Texas who plays on the boundary is just sitting there!!! Golden would be the pick if they go WR, right? No way the RAIDERS reach on a good all around guy when a speed demon is available. This has already been commented on, yes?

He's for sure explosive in short areas and also has long speed. Has wiggle, but not sure if he can run many routes (highlight vid is mostly LOS stuff with some seams and boundary 9s, and a FEW wiggly, long-developing inside moves that got separation). If we ignore his hand and arm measurements, then we have a compelling round 3-4 prospect who could potentially go sooner. Looks explosive AF in this vid.

Perchance, where was our first pick from the last draft with these metrics? (Asking sincerely.)

I've generated some doozies in recent weeks. That being said, not sure I can (ironically) top drafting Zabel at 30 over Harmon, Golden, Thomas, and Revel. Zabel would come in and compete with Edwards at LG, I presume? Or he'd be a backup, which is not exactly what pick 30 is for. The Bills could instead find a future 2026 LG on day three, allowing Edwards to play out his current deal, and adding instead an impact player at 30. Does cutting Edwards now save significant cap?

Lots of discrepancy on Bond evaluations, apparently. Some see a Worthy clone with less speed but better hands/awareness. Others see a diminutive but dangerous gadget guy like you do. Doesn't seem like a Billsy target imho, although maybe he should be. I'll bet they prefer a Horton or Royals or Bech or Nash. But Bond could be an underrated, undersized, explosive separator with a chip on his shoulder, like Zay Flowers.

No shame as a child in chasing that uncomplicated clout of a national NBA/MLB brand. Bills and Sabres fandom was taxing. Plus our colors/logos were never sexy. (I was born into Yankees and Kicks to round out the NY homerism. Yankees was rough my entire life until I got to college mid 90s, and Knicks was fun but painful in the early-to-mid 90s. At least I got to root for some bullies for a change.)

For sure, except those were for posers (just fashion) lol

Red helmets for me all day. But I was 12 when the Bills lost that first Superbowl, so (like so many others) I'm deeply compromised.

It was the Houston game that gives some of us hope regarding Carter. He was productive; really showed up in his first major opportunity, especially early in the game. Many Bills fans learned his name and number in the 1st quarter of week 5.

Pretty sure Benford's advanced metrics in 2024 were ELITE. He's not even getting paid top-10 CB money. This deal is 🤌 (apprehension about injury history is fair, I think, but not about Benford's ability when on the field.)

Agreed, but Williams is a Rice-ish pick at WR that doesn't really help the Bills unless they're willing to redesign the offense for a movement WR...

Obviously Allen benefitted from the "everyone eats" offensive philosophy...specific WR and added team generations...

Grant, Hairston, and Alexander as first picks makes sense, but Savion Williams is a Chiefs-ish pick that should be dealt with...

Each pick is more detached from reality than the one before it. Yet I HATE that the first pick is actually scary like a Beane do-over of Elam's year without getting undercut by KC. And I'll bet they think Winston would have deservedly gone MUCH higher if he hadn't gotten hurt. Makes me shudder, thinking of no DL for Bills in first two days of 2025 draft. Depending on your threshold for what constitutes an acceptable bridge, I'd be getting muddy and probably scraped up by dropping into shallow and Spring debris-filled Bull Creek or maybe Tonawanda Creek (the Canal). The fertilizer levels could be spicy. As a ND fan, I can't abide any mock draft including Riley Leonard. It's possible that coaching/gameplanning is at least partially to blame (when they finally opened things up Leonard flashed in unexpected ways) for the offense's passing issues, but Leonard was too often just a slow running back. Slow/reluctant processing. What I despise in the Bills current backup QB, Trubisky. Not to mention Leonard's like brainless public persona.

Great thread. Got some of our top board scouts engaged in reasonable and informed debate, another amateur scout methodically introducing me to WR prospects I'd STILL never heard of, like Lambert Smith in the post above. Keep it coming...

Is Ceedee Lamb's little upfield pointy thing in jeopardy now? (Appears to be derivative of the banned gesture, but perhaps enough of a creative riff to escape persecution?) Can a player still pantomime picking his nose with a twisty wrist? Can a player still pretend to plug his nose with one hand and swipe away odor with the other in classic "pee-yew" fashion?

1st round draft picks have a way of being given opportunities, wouldn't you say? Assessing any WR in a Greg Roman system is inherently unfair. Palmer's film/production prior to 2024 is more promising, according to the Chargers perspectives I've heard.

Just read through a few pages of the WHITEST commentary lol Super important stuff here. Remember when the fake "mooning" TD celebration was loudly denounced? Oh, our precious gladiators mustn't be so crass, I do declare...

60% seat coverage is what we were told during our Stadium Experience sales pitch. That might include some upper row seats throughout stadium that are actually covered by the section stacked above them. The first seats we were offered were tucked just under the section above. We ultimately moved out into the uncovered Bills sideline (closer to the field) and to the 20 yard line (from the goal-line). Same price as what was originally offered.

Any buzzkills in this thread need to reevaluate everything about themselves

They behaved like a team that was desperate to draft either: a) a CB in rd 1 (pigeon holing the draft) or b) Elam (poor evaluation of player's fit in scheme) And that's a bad look which led to a bad outcome.

I think it's possible the Bills see a competition or platoon of Jackson and Ingram as at least workable for CB2. They haven't always invested heavily there. They probably WANT better, though, and will draft 1 or even 2 CBs this year. But it definitely doesn't have to be their 1st pick, in their minds.

The Pats going from one of the most obviously talent deficient rosters to "a team on the rise" in the span of just a few offseason months is...interesting. ***So I was going to drum up some reflexive Patriots hater-ation and criticize you @Mister Defense and your somewhat positive characterization of the wankers, but then I quickly looked at their roster moves to date, combined with coaching changes, and...you're probably right. I hate that.

Haven't seen or read much about Bond's ability to stretch defenses vertically, despite his speed. Am I just underinformed, or is that part of Bond's game/route tree more a projection than a proven commodity?