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I agree with those who think we go, in some order: WR, CB, OL in the first 3 rounds. The odds are decent that those positions are also the BPA at where we’re drafting when you look at mock draft boards. The only potential disruptions I could see to assuming those positions, if we go BPA, would be a DL or RB that drops… Devonte Wyatt or Jordan Davis in RD1 or a RB they like that drops to the late 2nd/3rd. Daxton Hill is interesting at Safety, but if a team takes him in RD1, it seems good odds that they draft him as a CB.

I think our coaches seem very aware that we need to bolster the run game, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it needs to be done by investing heavily in the RB position. -Upgraded one OG spot with Roger Saffold -Brought back the rest of the Starting OL that played well down the stretch -Hired one of the best OL coaches in the league, Kromer Also: -Dawkins regained his form late last year after battling covid effects, twice, during the season. -Brown is now in his second year and we surely are expecting to see a jump in his level of play. -Bates looks to have been signed as a starter, and he played very well in the final stretch of the season when given opportunity. -Potentially more 12 personnel looks with Knox/Howard. This starting five offensive line has the potential to be the best line McDermott has had in his time here. I'm not saying we couldn't go RB in the 3rd Round or later.. There are some intriguing speed backs and receiving backs we seem to be looking at, but even if we stand pat... there's reason to believe Singletary/Johnson/Moss will look that much better due to a (hopefully) stronger OL.

I'm in my 30's, but don't truly remember those Super Bowl games too much. My entire fandom has basically been through the drought. I'd follow FA and the Draft. Start every year excited, and then typically lose interest towards the end of the year once we were eliminated from the playoff race. I do think our fanbase may be stronger due to having had this success, and then losing it, as opposed to just wandering in the NFL wilderness for our entire lives. You hear a lot of people reflect on what it was like, similar to muscle memory, now that we have a contender again.

I was definitely wrong in how I thought they viewed him. I thought maybe they simply viewed Bates as a back up quality OG. This seems very much plausible as to how Beane calculated Bates this offseason.

Yall want to grab some mid-late round safety help.. have at it, but our top 3 picks better be guys who play this year as a starter or rotational piece. Zero interest in drafting more guys with premium picks that are healthy scratches.

Seems like gamesmanship IMO. You want to go after one of our tendered guys, that’s fine, now you can tie your money up for 5 days and wait to see if you get him or not.

Cool.. Dallas can give us 24, 56 & 128 plus a mid-round pick next year. Flip 128 for Bradberry and away we go.

I completely disagree on Levi. Decent player, but I have zero regrets not having him in a secondary that has to face Hill/Waddle for the next few years, twice per year. We need more speed in the secondary. I expect that wherever we draft corner, they will be guy(s) who have some speed/athleticism. If we don’t, then sure.. we can rehash this discussion… at the very least, they wouldn’t be 4M per guys. In terms of Bates, I’d be more inclined to worry about OG e v a l if we didn’t hire Kromer. The guy is one of the best in the business, and Beane is very aware of needing to protect Allen. They way they seem to be viewing him essentially says to me that they like him as an emergency starter/fantastic depth. IMO, they want to upgrade both OG positions. So far they’ve done that on one with Saffold.. im ok waiting to see what the other move is.

Agreed, but that’s my point. A lot of people see Miami with Hill/Waddle and say welp, better load up on corners now, but it doesn’t matter if we have 2 Tre Whites out there at corner… Hill has to be defended differently whether you have Ramsey, White or a RD4 rookie.

Highly doubt that dude is remotely credible but I don’t love that trade unless we feel we can flip Pick 6 for (at least) someone’s 1 and 2 this year. Not sure I want to trade Diggs, basically straight up, for someone like Sauce Gardner, Garret Wilson, Kayvon Thibodeaux etc., unless we know Diggs contract will be an issue.

Im simply operating under compare/contrast with Diggs and our high picks vs traded picks for him and cap space from him. Yea, I’m good with an offense that looks like this: Allen/Keenum Dawkins/Doyle Saffold/Bates Morse/Bates Kinnard/Bates Brown/Doyle Dotson/McKenzie Olave/Crowder Davis/Kumerow Knox/Howard Walker/Singletary/Johnson With Gilmore at CB2 on an absolutely loaded defense. *Diggs is not Hill. We’re not losing a guy who changes the entire dynamics in the history of NFL of how you defend someone. Diggs is elite, he’s not never before seen. We were VERY aware of Tyreek Hill in the Playoffs game and still couldn’t stop him.

I’ll assume we’re matching Bates offer sheet either way for argument sake.. I would not be worried if Diggs/25/57 turned into say.. WR Jahan Dotson (25) WR Chris Olave (Diggs Pick) OG Darian Kinnard (57) RB Kenneth Walker (89 + Diggs Return) CB Stephon Gilmore (Diggs cap space)

Diggs helps. Weapons help. One of the weapons doesn’t need to be Diggs, although most of us hope one is. I think you’re shortchanging Allen… a lot. Look at that KC game. Sure, Diggs helps open up Davis, but so could a Jameson Williams, Chris Olave, Jahan Dotson etc… or Davis open things up for them. Diggs was a huge move to help Allen in his growth from a raw QB with all the talent in the world, to perhaps the best QB in the world. That being said, it has way more to do with Allen’s talent/work ethic than it does Stefon Diggs. You need an OL and weapons. If we were to trade Diggs, I’d advocate using our 25 AND the highest pick we get back from the trade on WR’s. Re-sign Bates. Use our RD2 on OL. Maybe even use our third, plus the extra pick(s) from the Diggs trade in a trade up for a high impact RB. Use the freed up Diggs money on Gilmore or Bradberry.

The only way we should ever even contemplate drafting a RB this high is if they are a burner with good running instincts/vision, strong in pass pro and most importantly.. are a fluid, elite weapon in the passing game. Essentially a counter to the two high safety look. I have no idea if Breece Hall is that, but the only way I’m drafting him in RD1, is if he is a guy who’s catching 4-5 passes per game from Allen and making teams pay in the open field.

The Von Miller move could potentially pay dividends beyond just what he brings to the table himself. We currently have a Year 3 DE, Year 2 DE and another Year 2 DE. When you’re drafting EDGE in the late 1st/2nd Round, it’s similar to the TE position.. they typically take a few years to develop. That means we are now expecting Rousseau, Basham and Epenesa to start becoming the players we hope they will be now. What better way to maximize the chances of that happening than by putting them into an entire off-season with Von Miller in the room with them day in/day out. This move doesn’t just give us an elite pass rusher for, hopefully, the next 3 years.. it also gives us the best chance of developing his replacement(s) down the line.

I completely get the idea of upgrading the CB room. Bradberry is intriguing. What I don’t get is people using Miami as a reasoning. Even when healthy, and if we get Bradberry. You can’t just put White on Hill and Bradberry on Waddle. That offense is going to be a different animal with all their speed.

Pretty sure there’s a graphic somewhere on this board that shows we need about 2.1M currently.

Not even bothered. Let Brady go to Miami and finish his career in embarrassment when he doesn’t make the Playoffs. They’ll be shooting their shot by trading away their entire future for an attempted run with Brady and Hill.

I agree with you. It’s not dangerous to do it once in a while during this decade+ window we have with Josh Allen. We decided to pull the trigger on doing it with Von Miller. It’s very manageable and doesn’t mortgage the future. Start trading high picks, backloading multiple contracts etc., and that’s how you start running into problems down the road. That being said, we likely have one “get out of jail” free card with a restructure of the Josh Allen 43M AAV contract. It already looks like a bargain and the extension hasn’t even kicked in yet. This off-season we’ve seen 50M per for Rodgers and 46M per for Watson. In 2-3 years, 50M+ AAV contracts will likely be the norm for anyone even close to Allen’s caliber.

A 4th and I’m all for it. Go WR & OL in the first two rounds, then take a CB in RD3 to learn behind White/Bradberry and compete for CB2 next year when we clearly won’t be able to afford re-signing Bradberry. A 3rd RD pick gets a little pricey for a one year rental. Not saying no, but that’s a tough pill to swallow.

Id honestly put Knox as the priority of the 3, but yea, I’m sure it can get done and keep all of them… where we’d need to get creative is to keep Edmunds (which I don’t care, but I believe our FO very much would attempt to get done).

If we can do it without losing Knox & Oliver, ok. This team is basically “as is” for the next 3 years, plus draft picks and some rearranging of one year deal guys. Ill admit that I’m not entirely comfortable paying him that money though.. As I said earlier, and it may be a function of our offense, I haven’t seen him take over games like the other elite WR’s. When’s the last time he’s done that?.. Steelers two years ago?

Whenever something like this happens, we want to convince ourselves we are better off… but after seeing these remarks from him, thank God he is not a “Buffalo”.

Two corners, sure. Not sure about “at least two..”. We’re only going to carry 4 outside corners on the 53, at most. Last year we mainly ran with Tre, Levi and Dane. Wildgoose got poached off the PS. Same with another pick at OG in Anderson. Can’t keep having that happen..

Yes.