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It’s going to be up to Josh to slay Mahomes. All we can hope is Beane does enough to give him a fighting chance, because we will never be their equal in the GM/HC department as long as Reid & Veach are there.

Perhaps .. or we just let Edmunds walk and give Allen a weapon or protection with that money. Or trade Oliver for a box of donuts and there’s your 11M. We have non-kick the can down the road moves that can be made. We don’t have to be held hostage by obsessive defensive investment with a defensive hc in an offensive driven league.

Id counter with the fact KC doesn’t invest heavy dollars, outside pass rush, to guys on defense. Evidenced by letting Sneed walk. Also bolstered by having excess picks. If the Bills took a blow torch to the defense and had to draft a LB and CB early, but spent like the Chiefs did on OL.. I’d be all about it. The difference between the two teams, aside from the Chiefs drafting better lately, is that they don’t get cap strapped to help Mahomes because of defensive investment. I don’t think Veach would pay Edmunds. I also don’t think he’d ever have picked up Oliver’s fifth year option. Yet we’re all worried about cap issues re: offensive help here because Edmunds and Oliver are likely going to eat up 24M of cap space next year.

KC is potentially losing Hardman and Juju this off-season. So.. how would y’all feel if they signed OBJ to a 2 year deal? If you’d hate that, we should sign him. If you don’t care, well then.. there’s your answer.

There's one big takeaway, and it's one i'm quite confident is lost on Beane and McDermott.. Eagles Defense pulled a Bills/Frazier when it mattered. All the investment anyone could want. Led the league all season in almost every metric. Fell flat on their face against an elite Offense in the biggest moments. Could not tell the difference between their elite defense and the average Chiefs defense. ...because that's all you need. An average defense with a gamewrecker on the line. Von is that for us. Jones is that for KC. Make no mistake, for all the offense talk, Chiefs don't even get to the Super Bowl without Chris Jones. If he tore his ACL, it's a wrap on their season also. However, they have a fighting shot, because they realize that beyond Chris Jones... it doesn't matter, it just has to be league average... and due to that philosophy, Mahomes has an elite OL and a ton of weapons every year.

I can't be annoyed by this stuff anymore. It's how the media works. Get Allen an OL and weapons commensurate with the other top QB's in the league and maybe he gets talked about like Mahomes and Burrow again. Until then, Josh has nobody else to blame except for those in charge of protecting him, getting him help and leading the team to a Super Bowl.

Chris Brown is absurdly talented. His hit catalogue is next level and he's a straight up performer. One of the best dancers in the industry. Kanye is just another level, performance-wise. His Donda event with the burning house and Kim K coming out in a wedding dress... just iconic stuff. Unfortunately, we've likely seen the last of those two on a large stage. They've committed the unforgivable corporate sins.

Oh, I agree.. I'm just being salty over the fact we either didn't want, or weren't given the opportunity, to get Toney. Chiefs learned their lesson with CEH. Can't ever see them drafting a RB high again.

Chiefs have picks to move around, maybe they'll give away pick 25 like they did Toney so they can jump us again.

Ironically enough, given both of these artists were in songs Rihanna sang... Kanye or Chris Brown would probably put on one of the best halftime shows ever, but of course, corporate NFL could never.

Carr on the Jets makes them a playoff contender, but that will be their ceiling in the AFC for the foreseeable future. Carr likely still gets a 40M per year AAV.. He has suitors, and I'll be surprised if he ends up making less than that. Jets have a really good defense and really nice weapons. Perhaps they even fix the OL this off-season and give Carr everything above average around him... he's still Derek Carr. And Derek Carr isn't good enough to compete in a conference with Mahomes, Allen and Burrow.. let alone Herbert, Lawrence, Tua etc..

I fear for my television if this pick happens. I do not want a RB at 27, but would understand.. and probably talk myself into, Bijan Robinson - He's a freak. This would be like Terrell Bernard.. just zero rationale and an all around ridiculous pick.. only 3x worse given RD1 vs RD3.

Oliver would 100% bring back a late round pick. There are teams that will see him as a pass rush boost from the interior, scheme fit, and willing to get him in the locker room to see if he’s a long term fit. White, we’ll see… it would be a gamble for anyone trading for him, but recent data shows that this coming year is when Tre White will bounce back to pro-bowl caliber Tre White. The year after the recovery/comeback year. Which is also why I doubt the Bills would sell low to move him. Regardless, Edmunds and Oliver should have no business being on this team next year … and Beane can make it so they aren’t here. That’s 22-24M the Bills can re-allocate to the Offense.

We don't have to do this via the draft. We just seem to be forced to do so because our FO is obsessed with spending on the Defense. We don't need Edmunds to win a SB. We don't need White to win a SB. Certainly don't need Oliver to do anything. Edmunds can walk.. Beane can find trade partners for Oliver and White. That gives us approximately 30-35M in defense-allocated cap space to spend on Allen's Orlando Brown & Joe Thuney in Free Agency, along with the ability to target a WR2 like Chark, Meyers etc. If McDermott and Frazier can't make it work with a Defense led by Von Miller, Daquan Jones, Greg Rousseau, Matt Milano, Taron Johnson, Kaiir Elam and Micah Hyde, then why on earth are they here?

Completely Agree. 1) Let Edmunds, Poyer and Singletary walk. I wouldn't even offer team friendly contracts to them. Edmunds is the toughest to let go, but he's not a pass rusher and we already have an elite LB. 2) Trade Oliver & White for picks and free up cap space. 3) Use the cap space to sign the best Tackle and best IOL available in Free Agency. Also sign a WR2 potential player in Meyers, Chark, (Renfro, if available) etc. 4) Then use the rest of available cap on a vet LB, vet CB, vet Safety and re-sign Phillips/Shaq/Dane 5) Assuming (conservatively) that White brings back a Day 2 pick and Oliver a Day 3 pick, we have plenty of ammo to move around and/or address WR, OL, DL, LB, CB, S, RB.

Progressives will hollow out your religion and wear the corpse like a suit. They are parasites who latch on to everything people hold dear, eat away at it, then destroy it from the inside. It’s happening in culture. It’s happening in education. It’s happening in religion. All that will be left is a hive-mind wasteland of androgynous, overweight, they/them’s who are subservient to the government and disavow the institutions that teach them to be individuals. Here’s to the future!

I’m honestly fine with Dorsey coming back. He was a first year play caller with a bad OL and mediocre weaponry. Once his elite QB got hurt and started to not trust the personnel around him, it was a wrap. Invest heavy in the OL and WR this year and see what he can do. That’s going to require asking our defensive HC and long time DC to actually figure out how to do more with less, which I’m not sure is going to happen so…. Good luck Dorsey.

He's all over the place in terms of visibility. Interviews, media stuff, hanging with Lebron, pictures with Travis Scott, Meek Mill etc., certainly not consistent with someone who wants to be low-key about his recovery (and that's fine.. I don't hate that for him), but I'd agree that the whole situation has been, and is staying, a bit odd.

In fairness, Kelce is probably the most elite receiving weapon in the NFL. Otherwise, I agree. KC gave Mahomes an elite OL. We can also do that for Allen. Let Edmunds walk. Trade Oliver. Now we can be players for our Joe Thuney, Orlando Brown etc.. On Defense, the Chiefs have Chris Jones and some guys. If Chris Jones goes down, so does their DL. Same for us with Von. They have Bolton at LB.. even if we let Edmunds walk, we have Milano. They have some nice young pieces at CB/S, while we have White, Johnson, Elam and Hyde. I mean, it shouldn't be this difficult... we have enough on Defense, without Edmunds, Oliver and Poyer, to be on par with the Chiefs Defense. It's up McD/Frazier to figure out how to scheme/coach in the playoffs. If we run it back with Edmunds and Oliver.. nobody in this FO learned their lesson.. and Allen should be fuming.

I'll keep saying it, but if Addison is within striking range, go get him. He is perfect in this Offense for our WR2, and has WR1 potential for when Diggs start slowing down and/or gets moved inside to the slot primarily.

Children have fallen way behind in learning, while experiencing unprecedented levels of anxiety, depression and suicide. We have fallout from what happened that will last for decades. People have vax injuries that will be with them for the rest of their lives.. for something that was unnecessarily forced on them. Media and Tech were weaponized to propagandize the people, while medical institutions and agencies like the CDC will deal with the erosion of trust for years. What we saw was the true nature of subservient people... weak people create hard times, and it will happen again, and people like myself won't forget that there are people like you out there. Which is why this issue is the defining political issue of my lifetime and I will never support anyone who had anything to do with using a pandemic to enhance their grip of power over the people.. and will always remember half this country was willing to let that happen.

Definitely worth looking into. Can’t call out the Biden family stuff and then act like the Kushner stuff isn’t worth looking into. This is also why I never cared about Biden/Hunter and their foreign investment issues, because everyone does it. I care that media/tech hid the story and had intel officials lie to us, but I don’t really care about “the big guy”…. All these high up politicians are easily corrupted.

I don’t necessarily live in a state of fear from our current govt .. although Biden’s bs vax mandate forced my brother into getting vaxxed for his job - one week later, diagnosed with tachycardia .. but I dont trust our govt, at all. I do fear a future for our govt with more power.. a govt that flirts with ideas such as ESG, social credit scores, centralized currency etc., all thing we see in countries like China, and are becoming increasingly vocalized by leaders in the EU and “progressive” leaders in the US.

Good for you. I’m sure your social credit score will be good enough for extra rolls in the bread lines some day. Maybe even a bonus hour of fresh air during the next pandemic.

This. There’s been fans openly questioning draft picks and decisions for a couple years now, but we always believed we were on the same level as KC/CIN, so… “trust the process”. Then this year happened. Beane, once again, drafted a guy on Day 2 that makes no sense. We, once again, struggled to utilize high picks. We, once again, were outdone at the trade deadline by our peer contenders. Were once again bringing back Frazier, who is the opposite of KC/Spags. Heavy investment, fails in the post-season. Compared to moderate investment, gets better as the season goes on. Beane’s comments sound like nothings going to change. He sounded defeated in his presser in acknowledging we don’t have many moves to be made this off-season, except we do …. He doesn’t need to keep Oliver, he doesn’t need to re-up Edmunds.. but it seems in his mind that those guys must be here next year, but I can tell you one thing… if Veach ran this team, I doubt either would be on the roster in 23. Veach would then have 24M to spend on Offense.