BigDingus

Hasn't it been pretty evident that the more "armor" they give these guys, the more reckless they play? I bet if they took helmets off of people entirely, there would be way less people willing to launch themselves head first into other players or lower their head/shoulder to truck a defender.

I'm cool with that, but I'd rather they find a way to fix playoffs & get it back to top 2 seeds getting a bye in each conference. Don't care how they have to do it, cut teams, add teams, whatever, but it's annoying that only the 1 seed gets much benefit. Under the pre-2020 rules, the Bills would've had a 1st round bye twice already. Sorry, just whining about something that'll likely never change 😅

What are you talking about? We got to move around some 5ths & 7ths, and even got a 3rd rounder that we could parlay into a couple 6ths if we wanted! Yall are smoking crack!

I'm glad the Bills didn't trade up, that's what I was most concerned about. That being said, I wasn't too thrilled that we just said "eh, we don't need a 1st round pick anyway" and bowed out for next to nothing. But hey, that's secondary to not blowing your load to get to the top 10.

Lol in what way? The same guy Bills fans couldn't wait to get off the team? The same guy who Bills fans said wasn't even good enough as a number 2? I guarantee Rice will be better in no time, if he isn't already. Completely blinded by homerism. It also doesn't change my original point. "Lucky" or not, the Chiefs have a better track record with their WRs than us. At least they hit on one.

They got Tyreek Hill... and Rice will probably end up pretty good. What's Beane's track record? Gabe Davis and maybe Shakir takes another step? Not like we're savants in that area.

Hopefully we can pickup some extra 6ths & 7th for the 2025 draft, since everyone knows that's where the real studs come out!

Just helping out our daddy 😂

It feels like we gained next to nothing for these trades... Hope we find some diamonds in the rough

His record-setting speed, paired with Andy Reid's offensive genius, combined with the best QB in the league. Pretty good chance he blows up big.

It's more the fact that Reid is much smarter than McDermott & will find a way to take advantage of that speed. Paired with Mahomes, it's going to be one more guy the Bills helped the Chiefs get that can possibly hurt them. You're acting like Tyreek Hill's tenure on the Chiefs didn't teach us anything.

Glad the Bills won't be forcing their way up now. Maybe they trade up a couple picks, but no crazy splash to the top 10. Bears are going to be scary though. 2024 version of the Texans.

Ouch... listening to Tom Grossi, and one of his members said "the draft is too slow.. if I wanted to watch 32 picks over 3 hours, I'd watch Josh Allen." 😠

But then you'd have to look at who else they could've drafted in that spot (instead of purely based on position) and factor in the picks they hypothetically trade away (and who was available at those spots in the following draft). In other words, was there anyone else they could've selected if they took BPA, and what about the 2001 draft & who was available for the picks they could've traded away for the 2001 draft?

I agree, unless we're talking a small trade up just a handful of places. But definitely not worth the cost to jump from the end of the Draft all the way up into the top 10. The more I read about how the draft pick value chart came to be, the more broken it seems. It was meant as a snapshot reflecting trades up until that point. But despite how much has changed, teams strated treating it as gospel. This makes things so much more lopsided in favor of teams that trade back than those trading up. If it's for a QB, it's at least understandable.

Yeah... good luck getting that trade. Ownership isn't going to care.

I'm getting more & more stressed hoping we don't trade up... at least not into the top 10. Hoping this is just a smoke screen. I genuinely don't think it's necessary to trade away multiple years worth of high draft picks for a single player (and a non-QB at that). We traded away our best WR, still under contract, and ate $30 million in dead cap... With all the leadership & other players we lost, I don't think it's reasonable to expect a significant improvement this season. With that in mind, we shouldn't be in a rush to give up so much for one guy in this year's draft. Aside from the usual risk of a pick not panning out, maybe they'll also want out after 4 years, get injured, or any number of things. That would suck for any team, but it'd be exponentially worse if you spent multiple 1st & 2nd round picks, possibly more, to get them. Now if they're moving up a few spaces, that's completely different. I'm talking about reaching for the top 10. Then again, I'll end up rooting for them regardless, so I'll just have to chill out & hope it all works out 😅

Just shows the draft really is a crapshoot, because I'm sure the hits jump up once you get into the 2nd & later rounds. While many of those late 1st round picks were failures, you have teams finding Nacua, Diggs & Hill much later.

So they rank us the 6th best team in the AFC. Hey, still good enough to make the playoffs.

Duff's

I'm not athletic enough to be a player, I'm not smart enough in the X's & O's to coach, so I guess I'm left with Front Office. If Doug Whaley can do it, surely I can too!

Keep in mind that Dorsey's first season we went 13-3 & were in control of the 1 seed up until the Bengals game being cancelled. Everyone expected the offense to only get better with a year of experience under his belt, adding Dalton Kincaid, and James Cook developing. Instead, the offense was the biggest problem most of the year, the team turned the ball over constantly, and we were chasing the Dolphins until the last game of the season. Now we'll be going into next season having lost our #1 & #2 WRs, a ton of leadership on both sides of the ball, and still don't know what we'll be getting from Joe Brady. Always remember - ALL teams are adding pieces, not just the Bills. I'm sure Dolphins fans are thinking "if we can find a way to win just ONE more game..." as that would've been enough for them to have finished with the 2 seed. Jets are going for a do-over, expecting Rodgers to actually be around this time. Burrow will be healthy again, the Chiefs won a SB with their worst offensive unit yet & will only get better, and the Texans are on everyone's radar now like the Bills were after 2020. It's not impossible that we get better, but it'll be tough to win more regular season games.

I think it's pretty clear why the NFL changed the rules. If local community owns the team, there's no way to leverage the team against the city for cushy tax breaks, stadium funding, or the threat of relocating. Better to have a billionaire owner or ownership group who can say "we'll move to San Antonio if you don't give us $2 billion for a new stadium!" Fans just want the team to stay put, so there's a huge limit placed on future growth. If Green Bay's population & surrounding areas never grow, the team is still staying put. The NFL can't pressure them into a new stadium, and fans are content having a team to root for.

It may have already been posted, but here's a great article from ESPN on why it's almost never a good idea to trade up, especially not from our position all the way into the top 10 - https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/story/_/id/39964243/nfl-draft-seven-cliches-trading-why-flawed-process It actually discusses the Bills a couple times, once regarding trading up for Allen, and once for Watkins. But the point wasn't to criticize moves made to help these teams, only to show that trading up is almost never worth all that it takes to give up using the Johnson point chart (written in the 90's as a reflection of the market back then, not at all meant to be an official guideline forever). "In terms of total Approximate Value accumulated through the 2022 season, 85 of those deals were "won" by the trade-down team, 49 were "won" by the trade-up team and six were a tie." Considering how much the Chiefs had to give up just to move from 29th to 21st using that outdated chart, it would take a huge investment of multiple years worth draft capital for the Bills to make a huge splash like some fans want. Even if they snag a star player, chances are we'd be better off saving those picks & grabbing many more players that can contribute over those next few years.

So do I get to choose what 25% I own? I'll take 25% of the suites & club seats, the QB position, the DBs coach, the 17 yard line to the 42 yard line (south endzone), at least 2 concession booths, 25% of each pee trough, the entire parking lot, and I get full control of all round 3 & 4 draft picks for life. Oh, and only I can make Doug Marrone jokes.