BigDingus

What a crazy game! Wasn't expecting to see a tie, but always fun when you do (as long as your team isn't involved).

WOW! What an amazing play! Tonight's game has been fantastic!

Well Pickens is gonna be happy after this game. He's really stepped up big tonight.

Bills & Eagles are now the only 2 undefeated teams. And seeing the Ravens at 1-3 just makes it even sweeter. Our defense is a glaring issue though, but hopefully the reinforcements can help shore things up a bit.

Who's "ignoring" any of that? If you want to have this argument, then can you PLEASE try to stay on topic? I literally said he's been a better passer RECENTLY. Read any of my posts in this thread. Read the post you quoted. I said he has BECOME (meaning he wasn't prior) the better passer. I said the last couple years (and given they've been in the league 8 years, that should tell you I'm not arguing who was the better passer in 2021 or whatever). You're doing what everyone else is doing & trying to change to other subjects. Here's what I'm NOT arguing: 1) Lamar's the better QB 2) Lamar has always been the better passer 3) Talking rushing stats AT ALL So if you're going to quote me & argue about any of those things, then you'll be disappointed, because I disagree with 1 & 2 and don't care about 3. But here, just so I can say again for the next quote that moves the goalposts: 1) Allen has been the better passer for more years than Lamar has. 2) Allen is the better overall QB But if you want to argue Allen was the better passer than Lamar from 2023 - until today, I completely disagree, as do most people. Edit: If you want, I'll just stop replying. It's taking too much out of me defending anything Lamar. I can't stand the Ravens & really can't stand Lamar fans. I hope he throws 3 INTs today, his passer rating plummets & loses out.

I'm not talking rushing game at all. Allen is the better QB. But Lamar the LAST COUPLE YEARS has been a better passer than Allen. Everyone can be mad at me, but outside of Bills fans, Lamar is considered one of the best PASSERS in the league. Not talking "best QBs," just PASSERS. He's more efficient, more accurate, throws almost no INTs, has thrown significantly more TD passes & has a much better passer rating for a reason. And I hate how much emphasis people put on passer rating, but Lamar has the best passer rating IN HISTORY for a reason. He didn't just luck into that. Why are people making me defend Lamar's passing? It's not 2022 anymore. Are Bills fans still so behind that they think Lamar is a "running QB" that just happens to pass sometimes? That's moronic. Comparing him to Russell Wilson is even dumber. Russ throws a nice LOOKING deep ball, while Lamar throws an ACCURATE deep ball & does so consistently. And let's not act like he's all checkdowns aside from the occasional deep ball (like Russ). Lamar LEAD THE LEAGUE in average air yard per attempt with 8.8 ypa in 2024! Josh Allen was 9th. Want to talk about most passes behind the LoS? Josh Allen is 12th most in the league, Lamar is so far down the list it doesn't show up without paying to unlock more data (but lower than 25th). This season, Lamar averages 6.3 air yards per pass (most in the league), Allen averages only 4.2. But sure, let's keep pretending every possible passing stat doesn't matter, just because Lamar has gotten good at it. Passing stats below are from 2023 to 2025... But if you want to ignore Allen's INTs & remove the 2023 season (just to discredit Lamar further), go ahead. Comparing 2024 PASSING stats only helps my argument even more.

I disagree. He's become a better passer than Allen (with a much better deep ball) but not as good as Burrow. I'm not sure what's gaslighting about it. He's just been a better passer the last couple years. He completes a higher % of passes, throws for more yards, higher average yards per completion, passes for more TDs, throws less INTs & of course, has a much higher passer rating. Again, I'm just talking about who Lamar is NOW, not 3 years ago. We all think Allen is a better QB, but Lamar is statistically the better passer right now... unless you just want to go off "feeling" or other subjective metrics. Edit: C'mon guys... stop making me say positive things about Lamar. I hate the Ravens more than any team in the league, but I can't just be a homer because it sounds good.

Yeah, that will be annoying, but it's not as insufferable as my Twitter feed being flooded with Ravens fans spam posting lowlight videos of Josh Allen next to "Lamar MVP!" clips for the next week.

Lamar has become a great passer though. But just like the Bills do in big games, start overthinking themselves & calling questionable plays.

NO! Lamar's passer rating must be protected at all costs! Can't be throwing INTs or Ravens fans will have nothing to brag about!

I don't like the whole "a win's a win" mindset. Heard that after so many games in 2022. People just ignored & hand-waved away the glaring issues this team had just because they got the win, only for them to show up immediately in the playoffs. At this point in the season, it's fine. "A win's a win" in week 4. But if we're still saying that in week 10 or week 14, then how you play in those wins actually matters much more.

I still want the Ravens to lose. Maybe it's just because I've become such a Ravens hater over the last year, but seeing them at the bottom of the division with the Browns would make me happy.

Go Chiefs! (I feel ill saying that...) 🤮 Hope Lamar has a terrible game & they get stomped. If only to quiet the "Lamar is the REAL MVP!" crowd. I want to see them at 1-3 more than I want to see the Chiefs at 1-3.

Because this is McDermott's side of the ball & it consistently loses us games in the playoffs. They've never had a performance against a great offense like the Chiefs D in the 2023 AFCCG against the Ravens, or the Browns D against the Packers last week, or the Eagles against the Chiefs in the SB. Good offenses love playing against us. DBs give them all the cushion in the world for easy completions that can be turned into big plays, not a lot of sacks, running the ball is easy as long as you don't fall behind, players are slow & can't tackle, and you have nobody back there that scares you. Doesn't matter if it's the 2021 D that's ranked highly but then allows 40 points against the Chiefs or the 2023 team that's so porous & hobbled that the entire gameplan focuses on keeping the D off the field... Regardless of who you put back there, the end result never looks better.

And a turnover saves us further embarrassment. Needed that break.

And this is why I always say McDermott's D is always going to hold this team back, regardless of what players are back there. Worst rush D in the league, corners playing 10 yards back, smaller & built for speed but aren't fast & can't tackle... This is how they play against one of the the worst teams in the league.

See, this is where I'm a pessimist. I don't think that's a real possibility as long as McDermott is the coach. He's been great at building this team & culture, but defense is his baby. A lot of people think if we just get better players than things will improve, and while I think that's partly true, I don't think it'll look any different come playoff time. Like were prime Hyde & Poyer better than Rapp & Bishop? By a mile, yet the D still looked just as bad against the Chiefs/Bengals in the playoffs. Maybe prime Tre White & Milano? They didn't move the needle either. Then you look at all the draft picks invested in the D, you'd expect better results. Unfortunately, they've gotten worse the last few years, all while "offensive-minded" Andy Reid has managed to build a strong D before us. Josh will have to be exceptional, and we'll have to continue surrounding him with good weapons. That's how I think they can overcome the McDermott playoff defense.

Denver's results immediately stood out. All of those options only amount to 72.4% of their plays. There's still another 27.6% unaccounted for 😅 Meanwhile, those options account for 91.7% of the Bills plays. Denver is just out there calling plays via dice roll. But good for Washington - keeping the No Huddle offense alive!

Not sure if I ever agreed with a post more! I was nodding my head in agreement with each and every line. Yes to everything!

The Ravens. I'm just so sick of the ego that fan base has. And the nonstop s*** talking of Allen & trying to discredit his MVP season is ridiculous. They've been sharing clips of Chris Jones recently saying Lamar should've been MVP & saying "see, this is why we respect the Chiefs & not the Bills..." as if CJ didn't say the exact same thing about Allen just 6 months ago. And don't get me started on how much hype they invest in passer rating... John Elway had a career 79.9 passer rating! It's not a serious stat! If you can throw a TD pass & have your passer rating can go DOWN, it's not as valuable a stat as Ravens fans make it out to be.

For the first time in forever, I'm rooting for the Chiefs to win. After all the bickering last season, after all the whining about "pity MVP," this off-season, and after saying "SEE! Even Chiefs players know Lamar's the rEaL MVP!" and sharing Chris Jones saying "Lamar should've won MVP" all over social media the last couple days, I just want to see them hit 1-3. Josh Allen wasn't the "pity MVP." Lamar was the "pity 1st Team All-Pro!" Let Lamar have his 158.3 passer rating while the Ravens miss the playoffs entirely.

"Lower your expectations..." - Sean McDermott How?! My expectations for your defense & early draft picks is already at rock bottom! We seem to use 1st & 2nd round picks on guys with the hope they become decent starters in the next few seasons, but almost never THIS season (and never with an expectations they become stars). But the scouting department responsible for the later round picks - you're the unsung heroes saving these drafts!

Talks about the Bills throughout, but starting at 16:07, I think he makes a great point - Not about Allen's prime or whatever, but about the state of KC & Baltimore (and Bengals) + our schedule. The Chiefs won't stay this weak for long. The Ravens D won't be this bad for long. The Bengals will get Burrow back. This should be an all-in type year. Not worrying about next season or how to good our rookies might be in 3 years, but that there's a legit chance we could win NOW. And I see a lot of people on these boards talk as if we can be greedy... like dynasties are normal & that we could be the next one. How about winning just ONE ring first? If Allen gets is a single SB, he's automatically the best Bills player ever, 1st ballot HOFer, and hero of the franchise. He could retire the next day & still be all those things. So stop focusing so much on what might happen in 2026 or 2027 with rookie development, draft picks, contracts, etc. If the Bills can acquire pieces to help our terrible run defense (literally 32nd in the league), bolster our secondary, improve our kicking, etc. then they should go for it.

I agree with nearly everything you said. Though I don't think the expansion fees will be a hangup if the owners actually WANT to expand. Because it's probably pretty difficult to gracefully expand by adding 1 or 2 teams. It'd throw off the perfect division alignment they've got setup. But if the intent is to add 8 teams, 1 in each division, they will NEED to make compromises outside the norm. Owners would not require $10+ billion in expansion fees just to get a team off the ground. That would be all but impossible to expect that from 8 new owners. I think they'd compromise by requiring owners to foot the bill (or most of it) for new stadiums at each location, with an agreement to also pay a much smaller expansion fee over an extended period to allow fledgling teams to establish themselves. Again, this scenario is if the majority of owners WANT to expand (which is a big "if"). I also think they would prioritize Canadian markets over Mexico City, Monterey, Guadalajara, etc (all of them much bigger than the majority of existing NFL markets) because of the current way the US views Mexico as opposed to Canada. Americans view Canada as just a smaller US, while those same people see Mexico as poorer, developing, place where immigrants flee, and just "different." Not saying this is how I view it, only the attitudes towards each country are different in some Americans' minds. Not only that, but we've had NBA, MLB & NHL teams in Canada before. We haven't had NBA, MLB or NHL teams in Mexico (as far as I know). Adding an NFL team there wouldn't seem that much of a stretch in comparison. But yes, I would prefer they pick another location within the US (San Antonio or Austin) than go elsewhere.

I'm of the belief that an NFL team can basically succeed anywhere in North America. You could put an NFL team in Louisville, Salt Lake City, Omaha, wherever and it would still sell out every game & get better ratings than any NBA, MLB or NHL game. They make most of their money through TV contracts these days, so all you need is a billionaire owner & someone to invest in a stadium (obviously, market size limits the potential for merch & other sales that owners can profit from). And Canada offers a few sizeable markets bigger than plenty of existing teams. CFL teams don't have NFL level venues or talent, so they'd have to accept diluting the talent pool. Also, CFL teams could eat into current fan bases (Buffalo, Seattle & Detroit probably all have sizeable Canadian followings), but it also has the potential to grow the league. Places like Texas could certainly carry more teams just fine, but Jerry has prevented that from happening. But other big metro areas outside the US include: - Mexico City (1st largest) - Toronto (7th largest) - Monterey (13th largest) - Montreal (19th largest - bigger than San Francisco) - Vancouver (28th largest - bigger than Denver, Baltimore, Vegas, etc) So if the NFL wanted to go international, they could add 4 teams + 4 other expansion teams within the US, either from cities they abandoned (like Oakland, St. Louis, San Diego, etc) or go to new areas (like San Antonio). But I doubt there would be a real "merger" with CFL since they're just not big enough.