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The INT called back its hard to know what it is if the WR/TE is allowed to run his actual route. Kinda butterfly effect, but yea even in a perfect world Allen has 1 INT on the day. I just hope he smartens up on the throws like Maye they won’t all be drops

They finished 7/17 but second half I thought they tightened. Agreed though it is an area to improve

Absolutely that would be wild. I’m trying not to overact to the Titans because it is shocking but that happens a lot weeks 1-2-3 with weird upsets. Their Defense is legit it’s the offense I guess I still doubt haha

I was in no condition to post yesterday after the win considering everything and the fact I had a lot of alcohol flowing haha. Additionally the next morning is a much more rational mindset. So here we go: 1. Josh Allen- It all starts and ends here. On the grades posted today here on TBD I have him a B-. The big thing is I liked the fact he worked the middle and things low all over. Truthfully his worst play was the dropped INT by Marcus Maye. That’s the hero ball he cannot throw. Both picks were bad luck not his fault and I only blame him for the first fumble. But long view he stayed in pocket better, his vision improved finding WR especially when it really mattered in the fourth, and he won the game with his arm on a great throw to Brown which is far more sustainable compared to him running for 100 yds. I am very excited to see what he does next week with the jitters out of his system and an easier defense to play against. 2. Offense In General- it’s weird to say I liked the offense when they only scored 17 pts and had 4 turnovers... but I liked the offense. The Bills moved the ball all game which was much better then last year. It’s one game but I do see them moving into being a mid tier offense with how they structured everything especially against a good Jets D. Robert Foster was quiet and it didn’t seem like he was on the field much, I could be wrong but thought that was interesting. John Brown seemed to get better as the game progressed and I look forward to seeing him throughout the season and now Daboll uses him. The one thing I do not understand is fans who are mad the bills came out throwing. Yes Singletary did great once they used him, but part of their game plan was to keep the Jets off balance by throwing and attacking their weak corners. The other thing is if Josh really becomes the guy I want him throwing a lot. Your not beating the Pats or KC sheltering your QB. I think the fact the offense is trusted in his hands this much and that he did throw 37 times is a major positive not a cause for concern. 3. Defense- Pretty simple they looked great and might be the best the unit has been since the 99 squad. The talent and depth is noticeable and for year 3 of the scheme it’s firing at all cylinders. They still got beat a little on screens to RBs and WRs but not nearly as bad as in the past and if the goal is to eliminate big plays then I’ll allow those. Milano seemed decent although he did get beat a few times down low in coverage which I think is just rust coming off. Jerry Hughes seems poised for 12-15 sacks and some all pro praise he finally deserves. I also appreciated his lack of bonehead penalties at inopportune times. 4. Winning is all and nothing else. Regardless of how pretty or ugly it gets the Bills are 1 win down with 9 to go to be a safe spot for the playoffs. 5. McDs Culture Push Deserves Credit- I was truly impressed that the entire team didn’t cave when it was 16-0 and instead came back firing. They say a team takes its coaches personality and you gotta like what he is doing. 6. Leslie Frazier Playing Calling Was Superb- I hope the Bills can keep him for awhile because the guys on D really like him and play so well for him. I thought he did a great job with adjustments and I liked the blitzing aggression especially at the end. 7. Next Few Weeks- You never underlook an opponent, the Bills need to clean up the turnovers, and there are other things to fix. But the Giants and Bengals offer two straight very winnable games. It feels like the Pats and Titans back to back are going to present the first true tests of the season. I hope again the Giants and the Bengals they refine themselves to a high level because if you can get a victory in one of Pats or Titans your hopefully 4-1 at the bye with a real solid look at the playoffs. I am excited to see where this team goes and if Allen can build off the positives of yesterday

B- 3 of the 4 turnovers in the first half I don’t pin on Allen. Both INTs were bad luck/Beasley has to catch that and the Morse fumble they should Williams for the Jets made a great individual effort on Morse who looked rusty. I thought Allen actually moved the offense pretty well and I liked his willingness to find his guys for 5-7 yard gains. His final drive he was spectacular and the TD throw isn’t getting enough credit considering it was 3rd and 4 and he put it right on the money. I thought his running was smart not hero ball. The offense would’ve had a FG on the one run had they not got a taunting penalty I didn’t like the Marcus Maye almost INT, but the INT that got called back for penalty you can’t judge because it’s different play and throw if the player isn’t held. Overall solid with poise not great but showed some nice signs of progression with a few plays of growth like the sack fumble or Mayes almost INT you don’t want to see.

My wife and I are throwing our 7th annual Bills party which we have 40-50 people come over with TVs outside, jersey giveaways, and tons of food and beer. We kinda go nuts and it’s awesome. Every time the Bills score shout song is played and if they win we run down the street with the flag with the shout song. Only year we didn’t do week 1 was 2015 when we demolished Miami week 3 instead. We are 3-3 and hoping to stay above .500, go Bills!

Over the years I’ve come to firmly believe Brandon pushed the Sammy trade more then anyone

I 100% think higher of the Jets for having Bell. They have a better RB then Buffalo who will help their young QB in spades. The Bills would’ve been better with Antonio Brown at WR. That’s not even debateable. Back in the 90s when the Bills has great teams they were respected for having top players. Fast fact great players want to play with great players it’s why Lofton came to the Bills when they were good. Buffalo fair or not has an image problem enough just because of the location. Tim Graham’s article with The Athletic highlighted this. Cleveland just added ODB who makes that offense decidedly better. Buffalo has made the playoffs more recently, had better seasons in general, and has a lot of similar talent in places. Yet because Baker became a stud guys will play there. Who on this offense right now is a guy that a great offensive player would want to play with? Maybe Allen takes that next step and creates that buzz you want. Winning is easier when the pool of players is greater to help. McCoy was a guy who gave you a bit of that and was a recruiting tool for other good players out there.Things get tougher to improve next year if another step forward is not made and some players don’t emerge on the national landscape.

My point is not that the Bills don’t have star power it’s that because it’s Buffalo and because there has been such a lack of success it’s overlooked in spades. I agree we have a lot of great players on defense and Allen possibly could be a stud at QB. But the NFL is driven by star players who typically are QB WR TE RB and with the release of McCoy Buffalo just removed the last that they had of that. As I said it was the right move to release him, but if the Bills don’t make the post season they move right back to being an irrelevant franchise in the NFL. As a fan part of the fun of cheering for a team is having guys like a McCoy who bring some of that attention. With all due respect to Beasley and J. Brown look at what things were like for the 30 mins Antonio Browns crazy self was thought to be on the team. The goal is always to win and Super bowl first, but it’s nice to also have guys like a McCoy ODB Bell etc who actually have some name brand too.

McCoys release marks the last gasp of the big name players Doug Whaley has a role in bringing in to try and build the team. Going back to Mario Williams the Bills for a period brought in through mostly free agency a bunch of players who were name brand established players to try and build with including McCoy, Harvin, Incognito, former coach Rex Ryan, and in the draft the hype of Sammy Watkins who at the time of his drafting was a massive name. Unfortunately most of these moves came at too high of a price with very little result and the franchise certainly seems to be in a stronger healthier place now then at any point back then. But McCoy was a really good player for his time here minus his last season where he struggled a bit. Fair or not McCoys name helped bring the Bills relevance to a team that needs it. As a fan the one part that is hard being a Bills fan is unless we are consistently winning your pushed to the back of the pack due to the market we’re in. Robert Woods and Gilmore were just as good of players here as they are in their current spots, but only when the market changes to the bigger cities do they get the credit due to the Bills lack of success. Tre White is as good of a CB as Xavier Howard yet because he plays in Buffalo not Miami the narrative is different. McCoys departure effectively removes the last big name that brings relevancy to the franchise for right now. Winning is the end all cure for everything and if the Bills win 10 games, some of the names like Oliver White Milano Edmunds and Allen will bring that recognition back. As a fan I understand McCoy leaving and think it was a good move for the Bills future. I will miss though the attention he did bring across the league for a franchise that regularly is forgotten about.

I can tell you that the busses while a nice cheap way to get to practice are not the fastest. Your better off parking for $5-$10 nearby if you want to be there earlier or get to Mendon even earlier because an hour before practice the busses become a zoo

It wasn’t my F it moment but it was probably the hardest reality check I ever had as a Bills fan (being 31I don’t remember much of the early 90s for the bigger reality checks we had). If an NFL team ever wants a look at how quickly the goodwill from an exciting offseason can go away the 2012 Bills Jets disaster is pretty solid proof. Just about everyone jumped off that bus after the game. I remember distinctly that virtually every national analyst had the Bills as one of the two WC teams thanks to Mario, Fitz play, CJs emergence, and a young team that added a lot of good talent like Gilmore and Dareus. Even Jerry Sullivan had them 10-6 in his preview and a playoff team. The defeating feeling of watching that game and going from yea they definitely are a playoff team to dear god they’ll be lucky if they win 5 games was unnerving to this day. I had tickets to the home opener against KC the next week which I wanted to give away and would’ve had it not been for my wife who loves the Bills to an undying point who made us go. The season was encapsulated 6 weeks later when they pissed away an easy win against the Titans before the bye which would’ve got them to 4-3 with a solid look at the playoffs still. Those Chan teams collapsed under the lightest pressure in 2011 & 2012 and the opener in 2012 pretty much defined that time period. This opener reminds me far more of 2014 where we know the talent is there on the team and it’s a strong opponent that is a good measuring stick.

My flight to Cleveland is sold out... because I'm driving ayooooo!!!!!

I will say this for that short period of time he was here TBD was probably more entertaining than at any point previously in a pure chaos type way.

For good food go to the Pittsford Pub its fantastic with a great patio

It's a cool hole in the wall bar that defiently is good for a summer visit. Cash only but they have an ATM and you can get food from Hungrys next door... yes that really is the name haha

Your 100% missing the point here. If you live in Buffalo there are numerous opportunities for families who can't make a game to meet players, go to Bills events, go to signing sessions, etc... If your a family in Rochester who is average FB fans that can't make the drive to Buffalo for a game and the Bills give you the opportunity to see them close that absolutely has an impact on youngsters becoming fans especially given how bad the Bills have been. Rochester actually got Browns games until the 90s Bills came and there is a generation of Browns fans here it is really weird honestly. But once the Bills got good and especially once the Bills came here for TC, the Rochester area embraced the Bills as their team big time. Not sure why this is a debatable thing considering I live here and it makes sense that a team that actively worked to come here was able to expand its fanbase because of it.

The current generation no. But you have to remember the impact it has on kids when you can go and see players, the team, etc.. up close. If that is gone and families who don't have the money to go to games don't go to Buffalo it becomes far easier for kids to cheer a different team. Let them grow up 10-15 years and the next round of your fanbase isn't what it was. I am not sure why people are afraid of the team being regionalized it is only for the best of the team. I never want a home game outside of the Ralph again, but if the team went to Niagara Falls, Hamilton, Cuse, Jamestown etc.. for events I think it only helps to strengthen the brand.

But the flip side is the team needs to be regionalized for corporate sponsors and increased media attention. I would bet money that without the regionalization of the team the odds of the team staying in Buffalo during those dark years would've been much lower. The last I heard the Bills said like 30% of their season ticket holders are Rochester or Southern Tier residents, that is a large portion of fans to say who cares to.

Rumor has it their new stadium will be there so why not put TC also

Back in the day the idea of branding the team outside of Buffalo had real merit that mattered and for most teams going away for camp was a big bonding/gear up time. Like others have said with the facilities they now have in Buffalo and the lack of appeal for most teams to actively market outside their main locale that seems to be fading. As a Rochester resident it would be a major loss fanbase wise if camp goes given how the Bills really have not done a lot out here the last few years, but it would be understood at the same point.

So for confidential purposes I will not say the name of my source or place of employment but trust me when I say it is well founded. With that said in conversation today I learned that training camp may be shorter then last year and the possibility is true that the team in a few years may pack up back to Buffalo. This falls directly in line with what I have heard that the Bills preseason schedule itself would force less training camp days given when there games are this pre season. Last year the number of practices in Rochester fell to 11 total down from 13 in 2017 with only one night practice in 2018 compared to three in 2017. Both years McD has done camp the number of practices and night practices have been far less then in years prior. Rex Ryan's last year had 16 practices including 5 night practices. While the team has said they have no plans to leave, I believe realistically that it will end in the next 5 years with the Bills just doing a 2-3 day joint practice or something like that. My one compliant since Russ Brandon has left is the fact the Bills have backed off Rochester with events the way they use to and it does make us nervous that camp will go given how it already has been condensed. That said as a Rochester resident training camp is an incredibly exciting time for us and great primer for the regular season. Plus it is cool being out in the area and seeing the Bills players and coaching staff. If you ever are up in Rochester during camp go to Thirstys in the town of Pittsford. The players, coaches, and administration tend to go there. A few years ago Whaley and I believe Rob Ryan came in there. Usually it is a little later at night.

Thankfully Milano & Edmunds are such a good pair that is a spot you almost want to platoon anyway at LB to mix rush and coverage. Zo's leadership will be the bigger loss, he is a great player but he is a great community leader and locker room guy you want.

I do agree with this and it is a fair point.

Agreed. While Shaq might not be signed Milano, Edmunds, & Tre White all seem likely to need big deals which is a great thing.