Adam727

I tried to come up with my list before reading the thread and couldn't even come up with 10. 1) Kyle Williams 2) McCoy 3) Tre White 4) K. Benjamin 5) Hyde 6) Poyer 7) Hauschka 8) Clay 9-53 = ?? Hughes & Dawkins for 9 & 10 maybe. but Hughes's production has not been great for what he is paid and Dawkins hasn't played a full 16 games yet.

I'll take bets on this one! Based on the value chart plus the premium the Jets paid that would cost the Pats something along the lines of 3 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick at a minimum to move up to get Allen or Mayfield when they have maybe 1-3 years left to win with Brady? Plus there's the fact that the Belichick won't deal with the Browns. Maybe they can throw in Brady/Gronk too to make absolutely sure they're able to land the 3rd or 4th best QB prospect in the draft? The only way the Pats draft Mayfield or Allen at 4 is if teams 4-22 all decide simultaneously to forfeit their picks.

IMO the 2018 season is over in terms of making the playoffs. But that was a long shot even before the retirements of Wood/Richie. But personally I don't care what the Bills record is in 2018 if they come away with a Franchise QB.

There is NO WAY the Pats are trading what it would take to get into the top 5-7. 2 1sts this year, a 1st next year plus how much more to draft a QB behind Brady when they could use those picks on more talent for the roster and make another run at a Superbowl? No chance. IF the Pats want a QB, the only way this has even the slightest chance of impacting the Bills is if the Bills were hoping to get their QB at #22.

If the cost to get a QB ends up being too much (If Allen/Darnold/Rosen go 1/2/3 and the Browns want too much for pick 4) then fine. I'd rather see them wait than reach for Jackson/Rudolph at 12. But they better trade back for 2019 picks so we can grab a top QB prospect next year if that's what ends up happening. If they get Jackson/Rudolph/White/Falk etc and do nothing to get a top prospect next year either I'll be very unhappy.

Definitely not my first choice, but if this is the way draft day went I would not hate it! I do hope though that if we miss out on one of the top QBs this year that Beane can find a way to trade something for a 1st or 2nd round pick next year so we have some extra ammunition to grab another QB. Rudolph seems like good value in round 2 but would not want that to be the end of the QB search for the next 2-3 years.

It depends if you believe the rumors that NYG will take Darnold if he's there are 2. IF true, and the Giants take Darnold, then Allen/Darnold/Rosen would come off the board 1/2/3 (and Denver supposedly really likes Mayfield) IF not true, and the Giants are willing to trade down, select Barkley, or Chubb, then Allen going #1 to the Browns would be great for the Bills because (assuming the Bills don't trade to two) that leaves Darnold/Rosen/Mayfield on the board at pick 3 with only the Jets and possibly Denver ahead of us looking for QBs barring any trade ups.

I've actually been wondering about this but couldn't find the right place to post. Do we know for sure if it's a good or bad thing if the Browns take Josh Allen @ #1? Obviously it's bad if that means the Giants take Darnold @ #2. But is it really a sure thing that would happen? If the Browns take Allen @ 1 and the Giants DON'T take a QB at 2, that would be a dream scenario (for those of us that don't want the Bills to draft Allen) since it likely means at least one of Darnold/Rosen/Mayfield will either be there at 12 or at the very least fall to the bottom of the top 10 if we can stay ahead of Miami/Arizona. If 1/2/3 goes Allen/Darnold/QB to Jets, that is pretty close to worst case scenario though.

QB - 1 - Need a starter! (Round 1) MLB 1 - Need a Starter! (Round 1-2) WR 1 - Need at least one starter! Possibly 2 (Round 1-2) CB 2 - went from a strength to weakness with the loss of Gaines/Johnson. Need a 3rd CB and possibly an eventual replacement for Davis who is on a 1 year contract and coming off injury (Tre looks good though!) C 2.5 - Between Groy and the new guy we definitely have a back-up C and possibly a borderline starter. Could use an upgrade here. RG/RT 2.5 - Good enough for last year but nobody at either position is a quality starter DT 3.5 - Need depth and an eventual replacement for Kyle RB - need to start looking for a replacement for Shady, but I think there may be too many other needs to address this one this year. I like our depth at this position. LT - Need depth with Glenn & Henderson gone. Can you imagine Dawkins getting hurt in pre-season and needing to rely on Mills as our LT all year? LG, TE, DE, Safety, Kicker are the only positions that look like they are in good shape for this year IMO. Looking at the holes on this team I think this roster requires a minimum 2 year rebuild from here. Luckily we have a lot of draft picks this year and a lot of salary cap space next year.

We aren't a playoff team next year with A.J. or with a Rookie. (We aren't going to have the worst record in the NFL either, but we could be picking top 10 for sure)

That still feels like a LOT to give up, but if the Bills have identified their guy and are convinced he's going to be our franchise QB and that's what it takes to get him, I would be ok with that trade to get up to #2. (Especially if by some chance Cleveland takes Allen and the Bills have their pick of the other 3)

1st round pick in 2019 is a deal-breaker for me. I think that could be a very high pick. And I don't want the team to be THAT committed to a rookie prospect that we're drafting after at least 1-2 other QB needy teams. I'm fine with any 2018 picks the team wants to trade (up or down)

My back-up plan would be trade down from 12 for a late 1st or early 2nd this year and a 1st next year, and trade a 2nd for another 1st next year. Draft BPA at 22, Draft Rudolph or White in Round 2, and keep enough draft capital going forward that next time we don't miss out when a potential franchise QB becomes available in the draft.

I was expecting we wouldn't be able to afford Gaines and he'd be playing somewhere else this year. But I'm pretty disappointed the Bills weren't able to beat a 1 yr $4mil contract offer...

If the Bills can't get Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield I really hope this is plan B. I don't think it will happen, but it would definitely be my favorite of all the scenarios left at that point. It would take the sting out of not getting our QB this year a little (and would take the sting out of losing a franchise LT for a plan that didn't work out) if we move back at 12 for another 1st next year. I know the QB class next year probably isn't as good, but we likely won't be needing to trade up all the way from 21 next year either.

I really like this move. I was hoping the Bills would bring him back.

I think the writing was on the wall for Glenn so not a total surprise, but I genuinely dislike this move. When healthy (which he has been most of his career) Glenn was a top 10 LT (locked up with a base salary of only $7.5 mil a year) and we just traded that away for the equivalent of a mid 2nd round pick. And our salary cap savings this year from the move are barely enough to pay for Chris Ivory! I understand this was done in the context of a bigger move to trade up for a QB and we won't know how this trade works out for a few years, but I don't understand why this trade couldn't have waited for draft day or why we wouldn't want to keep a top tier LT on a cheap contract to protect our new QB. (What if we just traded Cordy for next to nothing and still can't get our QB of choice because Jets/Broncos/Cardinals leapfrog us anyway?) I understand what Beane is doing. But now we're talking about trading up using the pick we got for not selecting Watson/Mahomes last year, the pick we got for Sammy, the pick we got for Darby, probably our other first rounder and who knows what else. If they miss with that selection after the mass exodus of talent over the last two years that it took to set this trade up in motion, Beane will have single-handedly set the team back for years to come.

I'd be happy throwing a 5th or 6th round pick to the Broncos for Sieman. But only if we cut/trade TT BEFORE he gets his 6mil roster bonus. My reason being we get Sieman as a bridge QB for 1 year for less than $2mil. I don't see the Bills competing in 2018 anyway, so save as much cap space as you can for 2019 and draft your QB of the future this year. (Also we probably get the pick back as a compensatory pick when Sieman signs a 2-3 yr backup QB deal elsewhere next year)

I think they're more likely to trade up than back in this draft. I wouldn't mind seeing them come away with extra 2019 draft picks though. An ideal (but unlikely) scenario might be: Trade pick 21 and 2nd round pick to Washington for 13 to leapfrog Arizona for a QB. Trade pick 22 for a 2nd round pick this year and a 1st round pick next year. End result = trade up for 3rd or 4th best QB prospect in the draft, still have 2 2nd round picks, and 2 1st round picks again next year.

Not for the amount of money he's going to want. I'd rather avoid big money free agents this year and keep saving cap money for 2019/2020 after Beane has had a couple of years to find his QB and assemble the roster he wants.

$4.8mil 2018 base salary = 100% guaranteed for injury + $4,333,333 signing bonus + $1,258,334 restructure bonus = $10,391,668 dead money. Sad day for Eric, sad day for the Bills fans, sad day for the team going forward now that they lost their starting center who will count $10.4mil against the cap anyway.

I think a 2nd would get it done. The Chiefs are currently $14mil OVER the salary cap for 2018. Getting Smith off the roster frees up $17mil for them. They could wind up cutting Smith outright if they can't get a trade done and I'm guessing the league knows it, which will limit what the Chiefs will be able to ask / hold out for.

I genuinely hate this idea. And even if Smith ended up being the best LB in the league I would STILL hate this idea. Trade up for a QB, make their picks at 21 & 22, or trade back and acquire more future draft capital. I'd be fine with any/all of those. But if they traded down instead of selecting Watson or Mahomes last year so that they could package those extra picks the following year to draft a LB, it would be really difficult to try to support this team until Beane is gone.

I don't even understand why this is a question. The Steelers go deep into the playoffs almost every year... and even today when people are questioning his decision-making, the steelers scored 14 points on 4th downs in situations where the Bills would have definitely punted. Steelers would have to be crazy to fire Tomlin and he'd have a new job within 48 hours if they did..

Not a fan of this idea. Given that it doesn't seem like we get much (any?) cap savings (and would have to pay Shaq's replacement) I'm not really excited about trading him for a late round pick. I'd rather the Bills keep him even if it's only as a situational DE. Can someone please explain what the exact cap implications of a trade would be? Spotrac says his entire salary is guaranteed but it seems incorrect that Buffalo would be on the hook for his entire salary and the team they trade him to wouldn't have to pay him anything?