BullBuchanan

It's hot new jargon going everywhere throughout the industry. Announcers and draftnicks are all over it, so it's likely here to stay.

Honest question. All over the boards I've seen it repeated over and over since the draft that Allen has the highest ceiling. What exactly does that mean and how are people getting to that conclusion? What QB does he look like if he gets there? How does he win games? What are his losses like? Why can't Mayfield be the next Drew Brees? Why can't Darnold be the next Marino, Rosen the next Eli, Rudolph the next Roethlisberger? If Allen becomes the next Favre, is that the pinnacle of quarterbacking? How EXACTLY does Allen have the "highest ceiling" when he's never played better than any of his peers going back to pee-wee?

The several thousand he's taken up to now don't count?

I mean, Luck is a top 10 QB and once all the current Hall of Famers retire he'll be Top 5. I'd say it worked out just fine. Guys get hurt.

Once he can pass as well as Peterman, maybe he can set his sights on Cam.

"Cam Newton scouting report compares to Josh Allen" - It may need to age a few years for its bouquet to really be appreciated.

All the kid ever did was throw touchdowns, complete passes and win football games against some of the best teams in the country. What makes him worse than a guy that did none of those things?

How many National Championships did Josh Allen win?

The real story is that as of today, Peterman is a better QB than Josh Allen. Allen has a long way to go trying to figure out how to play quarterback at a D1 level, let alone a pro level. I hope he gets there, but it might take him 2-3 years on the bench.

"Had"

Really? He's kind of the same player as Allen is: an athletic freak that doesn't have a pro level skilkset at this time. There are a lot of concerns about his ability to diagnose plays, not get baited, and to take appropriate angles to the ball. Not exactly small concerns for an MLB prospect.

You lost any remaining credibility right there.

Chris Brown is hard at work tonight. You could have just said, "I'm a bills fan, so everything this team does is awesome" or "Our coach talks in mysterious words about a "process" or something, and because I don't know what it is I'm super-excited"

Mayfield will be the cream of the crop. I expect Cleveland to become a powerhouse in very short order if they can get their act together upstairs. After Roethlisberger retires the division is going to open right up. I think Harbaugh gets fired from BAL in the next two years if they don't make a push. The New GM won't have any reason to tie his horse to Flacco or Jackson. Cinci is a mess and will have a new coach. Rudolph will be very good. If he can improve his arm strength he'll be elite. Rosen is the second coming of Jay Cutler. I expect him to hang around a long time, barring injury but I don't see him becoming a superstar. That Arizona team is going to look worlds different in the next 2 years. I expect Darnold to follow a similar path to Rosen. I think he's likely a franchise guy, but the dangerous type like a Dalton. Not good enough to carry the team, not bad enough to ever get rid of. I expect Allen to be out of the league in 3 years or less. They're going to ask a rocket armed thrower to greatly improve his accuracy, which outside of Favre has never happened in the NFL. Could he put it together and become a Hall of Famer? Sure, why not. I'm laying odds against it and taking all bets. Hopefully he'll become pals with JaMarcus Russel and they can hang out at the park throwing 65 yard bombs to one another on one knee. Everyone needs a friend. I'm not sure Lamar Jackson ever gets a meaningful shot at starting reps in his career. Expecting him to follow a Paxton Lynch route. If he does get a crack, I doubt he'll put together a winning season in his career. He should try to become the first professional college QB.

Isn't that implied? You already know it's an opinion, so why do you need wasted words to clarify it? Reads like a Trent Edwards stat line.

As much as it sickens me to say it, Allen was their guy all along. It should be clear given they were in talks with the Giants/Browns/Broncos and eventually Tampa and they didn't once flinch or change approach. If the Bills had the first overall pick, Allen would have been the guy. I don't know how or why, but it should be painfully clear the way everything played out.

The kid started one game. A game in which the only receiver anyone has ever heard of was injured on the very first play and two scrubs let balls bounce off their hands and turn into picks. My confidence would be shot too. Before getting hurt, he was holding his own in that blizzard against Indy too. Peterman's a smart and athletic kid. I'd bet he'll have a chance to be in this league for a long time before I'd bet that he's one and done.

How the hell did this kid not get drafted. I know its youtube highlights, but these were more impressive than the kid we drafted.

I'm really hoping that AJ McCarron pulls a Jimmy G.

I would feel better if he stepped up in the massive pocket he had and threw that with both feet on the ground.

It's a little bit more than 1% 11-12 teams (~35%) this year will have opening day starters that were not first round picks, and that's been pretty much the standard for the last 10 years. Among the better QBS you have Wilson, Cousins, Carr, Garappolo, Brady, Brees. It's not exactly the prescribed route, but it's far from a wing and a prayer.

Admittedly, I don't know the kid, but his highlights make him look like a Kyle William clone. Super Excited to see this kid on the field. Looks like a day 1 starter to me.

You could say the same thing about Carr, Wilson, and Cousins. Hindsight is weird, right?

he has negative 2 seasons left. He's beyond finished.

Barkley was the perfect fit for the Giants. They have 1-3 years left in their current window where they could be championship contenders. They haven't been able to run the ball at all since Brandon Jacobs fell apart and an elite RB could take a ton of pressure off their passing game. When they lost their top 3 WRs in one game last year, that was the end of their season. Barkley gives them another way to win football games, and unlike other positions elite RBs can carry a team out of the gate.