BullBuchanan

No plastic paddy here.

Yea, and they did, and we didn't.

This league has become extremely offense oriented. Last year, of the nine top touchdown leaders in the league onely one (Pittsburgh) did not make the playoffs. Everyone that appeared in the conference championship was in the top 7, and everyone besides New England was in the top 3. That should tell us all something. The minimum bar to get Top 9 is 50 Touchdowns. The Bills were tied for 3rd worst in the league with 29. That means they have to make up an extra 21 Touchdowns to be in the ballpark of wanting to seriously compete. If you say Brown gets 6, Beasley gets 5, McCoy gets 5, Gore gets 3, Foster gets 3, Kroft gets 3 - which are all completely in line with recent production - where are you picking up another 25 TDS? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=TOUCHDOWNS&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2018&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

In the Scenario I outlined we would have had 95 million to spend, so ok - I'm fine with that. You still have $40 million to put you right in line with teams that actually have star players. Go get whoever else you need with the $25 million and save $15 for draft picks. As for the draft, it would have cost us a first round pick for OBJ. Are you expecting to get a better player than OBJ at #9? If you are, I'd llike to know why he's not going #1. AB was traded for a 3rd and a 5th. You wouldn't trade a Backup DT (Phillips) and a backup safety (Neal) for one of the two best WR's in football? Who are you re-signing in 2-3 years? White? Who else? Poyer and Hyde should be gone, Hughes will be gone, McCoy will be gone. What Kind of deal has Dawkins earned? Milano? The contracts for the players mentioned would be up at the same time Allen needs a new deal and hopefully by then you have a strong pipeline of young talent ready to take their place.

I expect 600 yards and 4-5 TDs from Brown (3rd best season of his career) and 900 yards and 4-5 touchdowns from McCoy (Second best season in 5 years). Any more than that is unfair to the players.

Well those two would have been high on my list. The WR FA market was extremely weak and I knew that months ago, but once the top 2 receivers were available on the market for pennies on the dollar, I expected our GM to make a more concerted push for one of them. Instead they both play for rivals. I also expected an upgrade at RB. I wanted them to cut McCoy and go after some combination of Coleman, Ingram, Hyde, or even Ajayi. Bringing in a player like Gore is the exact opposite of what I thought they should do, but is also something so Billsy it had to be expected. As for TE, we got the worse Tyler, and paid him like he was the right one. I don't hate the signing in general but the money they paid to get him is borderline ridiculous. In general, I don't hate any one of the players the brought in as much as I hate the story they're telling with the culmination of them and the money the spent to get these guys. Every one of them is a filler niche player. We lost guys like Watkins, Woods, Darby, Dareus, Gilmore, etc. so that we could have $80 million dollars in the bank and build a brand new team. We had the kind of money to go full madden mode if we wanted to. We literally could have got Beckham, Brown, Bell, Morse, and still had roughly the same amount of money left over to go sign depth players. Cutting dead weight like McCoy and Murphy would have paid for Bell, John Brown + Cole Beasley nets you AB's contract. You could have used the draft to fill out line depth, get more LBs and TE's. Did they spend it in a way that makes you think they'll be beating teams like New England, Kansas City, Philly, LA, LA, New Orleans, Indy? No, they spent it on small, old players with injury histories.

Bare minimum attention was paid to offense. We got vet journeymen, no players with untapped potential or the ability to carry the team on their back. If you want to win you need those players and we have 0 of them. Who did we pick up in FA that you think is going to help us score?

Using a Gary Vee gif tells me all I need to know about this conversation.

Touch goes a long way when you talk about accuracy. Tyree Jackson was putting them on the money at the combine, but he was whipping fastballs on 5 yard routes and he got chewed out for making his WRs drop balls. This is something Allen did consistently his rookie year. To put him in the same class as Mayfield is ridiculous. If the Browns fire Hue before the season they win the division on his shoulders.

Apparently I'm in the radical minority of folks who don't believe that John Brown and Cole Beasley represent much of an upgrade for this offense. I think to plan on antyhing more than 1000 yards and 8 TDs from the two of them combined is to be unrealistically optimistic. With Shady at the end of his career, and a journeyman tight end we don't have any game breaking talent in my opinion. If we want to actually beat good teams and not just lose with more dignity we need guys that can break the game wide open. The type of players who are a threat to score anytime a ball is in their vicinity, the type of players who are open when they're double covered, the type of player that comes down with a 3rd and 20 jump ball while getting drilled by Earl Thomas. These aren't they. I''m going Metcalf Rd 1, Best RB or TE available in Rd 2, and David Sills in Rd 3. Draft all the defense you want after that. They aren't winning you any games if you can't score at will.

Can he score touchdowns or are we just gonna keep playing small ball hoping to win 3-0?

That 9.5 sack year was his only good performance of his otherwise disappointing career, and if memory serves he got 5-6 sacks in one game.

Peyton Manning, Marshawn Lynch, and Alshon Jeffrey are just 3 notable acquisitions that teams would not have won a super Bowl without in the last 5 years alone Darrelle Revis, and as much as it pains me to say it, Stephon Gilmore are honorable mentions.. Other teams like the Rams have risen to dominance through liberal use of FA. This very common take is bad, for a lot of reasons. Winning a championship takes a bit of luck, but getting yourself in position to win a championship year in and year out is what skillful use of FA can and does accomplish.

We need to draft DK Metcalf and we need him to be the next Megatron if we want to get where we want to go.

This is what I didn't want to burn the energy to type. I think some people are impressed by McD and Beane, because they've never heard this schtik before. In my line of work I see niave and inexperienced execs extoll it continuously. They're basically saying, trust us - we know what we're doing and no we don't have key performance metrics to back it up. Spoiler: They don't know what they're doing. I've seen this movie a dozen times.

Rich Gannon came out of nowhere to put together an MVP season at age 35, so maybe we should re-sign Losman. i hear he looked good slinging the ball at Clemson.

Yea, but if you want to overpay at least do it for good players. You could have had Antonio Brown for the same price as John Brown and Cole Beasely. If you think we won that deal, you probably think a Target knife set is better than one proper knife.

Jordy Nelson: 2 year deal.

Frank Gore is 36 and Cole Beasley is 30. What in the hell are you talking about?

Did he send the GIF when it was reported we were trading for AB?

No massive holes? We have ZERO skill position players of any significance. I dont think 3rd tier players like Brown, Beasley and Gore are going to do a thing to address the offensive incompetence that's been on display for this team. The AFC continues to get stronger and stronger, and the Bills just stand pat. As of now, we're the 3rd most talented team in our own division, and unless they make significant improvements between now and August, I think we're on pace to be in a similar or worse draft position next April.

What exactly is our Xbox one?

They're moderate risk moderate reward like all Bills moves. These guys are all on the backside of their career, and now the Bills are asking them to carry the load. They overpay them enough so that they become the guy.

Trying to hit it on the cheap. Like Spencer Johnson et al.

That's exactly it. Seems like Buffalo is always trying to take another team's niche rotational player and pay him to come here and try to be a marquee player.