BullBuchanan

So, because he doesn't do something for a living his skills and expertise do not have merit?

This guy is still around? Thought he was finally put out to pasture for good.

1.1 percentage points over a career is not insignificant.

Except they paid a negligible amount less to keep him than to dump him. The fact that they couldn't deal with whatever flaws they perceived he Watkins and Darby had is more of an indictment of the staff than the players in my book. A lot of jokers cheered the Ryan O'Reilly trade from Buffalo too, and that didn't work out so well. Maybe they get lucky and the big money deals they paid out to underachievers like Star and Murphy pan out and one or both of Allen/Edmunds starts to flourish, and then all is forgotten and forgiven. Still, it was unprecedentedly reckless and an unnecessary waste of assets. And what did all those cap savings buy them? Mitch Morse, John Brown, and Cole Beasley? I hardly see that as worth it. As it is they're going into the season with $22M of unused (wasted) cap, because they didn't make any moves to sign marquee players and they're at a point where there's nobody on the team worth using to money on to lock up in an extension. It's just not smart business. I don't like being down on the team, but the amount of backslapping over these guys is just ridiculous. They were hailed as geniuses before they even set foot in the door, and I just don't think they've done anything to deserve that yet.

Really? How much better was their 9-7 season vs Doug Marrone's 9-7 season. They played a super soft schedule and failed to put up 7 points against the Jags. I'm as happy as anyone they broke the curse, but let's not kid ourselves that it was some brilliant coaching and GM work that got us there. We don't have a brutal schedule this year, but it's not easy either. if they go 8-8 or worse are you still on the train?

Except every coach we've had in the last 30 years has averaged 8-8 or worse. There's little reason to believe these guys are any different, especially considering their 15-18 record through two years.

Right, and just to be clear, it's not that I think they can't turn this ship around. I just don't go handing out attaboys for solving problems that didn't exist before they created them. All of the progress so far has been towards getting the team back tot he level it was before they wrecked it. We'll see if this strategy actually allows them to surpass the previous ceiling, or if it's just a different flavor of 7-9 to 9-7.

Did we? The dead cap ridiculousness was a manufactured crisis created by McBeane just so they could wipe every shred of existence of the previous regime while putting in their own initiatives that they claim are vastly superior, but have yet to show any results. Seems strikingly familiar... I think we have to go a long way to go before anyone can start claiming this squad is objectively more talented than the 2016 squad they replaced.

It's better this way. If they started Rosen he'd get hurt and Fitzmagic would steal his job away at least for a minute. It's happened 7 times, which should be HoF worthy. It's maybe the most insane story in pro football history. Ryan Fitzpatrick - A Football Life.

Most national media have him in the bottom tier of the league right now. I've seen him ranked 25-29, which is probably where he belongs until he proves himself. As of right now this looks like one of strongest overall QB groups in NFL history. Pretty much every team has a guy that can win games and with the exception of the Dolphins, Skins, Ravens, and Titans just about everybody else has a guy that's been very good in the past, is very good now, or has legitimate expectations that they will be very good.

It's their choice whether they want to pay him or lose him for little to no value. I don't blame these RBs at all. I'd hold out immediately after a good season for more guaranteed $. The writing is on the wall that these teams abuse them time and time again, so you have to do the same as a player. Gotta get yours.

I don't think that's the case anyone is making. It's certainly not mine. It's great news that he and Allen are on the same page and doing well together. It's the thought of that being the best thing we have going on Offense when he had $100M to burn that's troublesome.

That's the crazy part. They thought Allen was worth way more than Watson, who was as close to a lock to be a good NFl QB as there is, and Mahomes, who while viewed as a similar project to Allen had The same or better measurables with a far more prolific college career. I'm just not sure how you make that decision a year out when a great QB just falls in your lap when you obviously need one. It's over an done with now, but on paper it's an all-time mishandling of draft value.

I would completely believe he has a couple of sick 3 digits multi-touchdown games. In my eyes, our hopes for this year have to rest on a guy like Foster, who has all the tools and has shown flashes, with guys like Beasley and Brown playing complimentary roles as they've typically done throughout their careers. It lines up with very low production numbers, so take from it what you will.

Or Watson. As good as White is, with either of those picks we'd already be a lock for a wildcard.

Cool. I'm rooting for the guy, because I need to. I'm just not under any sort of illusion that he's going to have elite or even better than top 30-ish WR season

He has dealt with hamstring issues every year except last year that has affected his productivity in each season. He may suit up for games an average amount, but expect him to be banged up and not produce. In addition he had a pretty bad concussion a few years back and he has sickle-cell anemia.But yea, #Roasted Evidence for his ailments for those that didn't follow it when it was happening: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowJo02.htm After breaking out his sophomore year starting 11 games and breaking 1000 yards with 7 TDs, his next two seasons with the cardinals: 6 GS 517 yrds 2 TDs 5 GS 299 yrds 3 TDs That's a big reason he only got a 1 year deal from BAL. If you're expecting much more than 650 yards and 5 TDs from him, you're expecting him to be something he's not, in my opinion.

A 29 year old WR with one 1000 yard, 7TD season and a long injury history is our top wideout. Sweet.

I think it does. He's turned into a pretty damn good receiver late in his career playing on some really bad teams. I think he gives us a bona-fide red zone threat where we've really struggled for a lot of years, and probably could be had very cheaply.

Apparently Ngakoue balked at a $17.5M/year deal. That's a lot of cap % to pay for ~10 sacks a year.

He was no Martin Nance.

I mean his first 2 years were better than Reed's first two years and he played half of his first season hurt. He's also averaged more YPG than reed over his career. Different era's yada, yada but Watkins is far from the bum many on this board would like to believe. His career has been largely derailed by injuries, but the talent and production has always been there when healthy. I think he'll play a massive role for the chiefs this year.

Or Lee Smith. If the season started today, Yeldon might be the best back on the team.

We still have a bottom 5 unit in the NFL. Maybe bottom 3. If John Brown is better than your #2 WR, you have a weak group.

We have zero LB depth ,and one of them are bound to get nicked up. I'd love to have foster, and he'd be cheap.