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because he scored 33 TDs over 2 years in a major conference with no experience as a WR?

You can always have another baby. There will never be another Peyton Manning.

ya know, nine eleven tavern is on the way to Orchard Park

Do you typically hear about 5th round picks a couple weeks into training camp? Most likely he'll play special teams for a couple years and be out of the league like 90% of 5th round picks, and there's nothing wrong with having him fill that role. anything more is a massive bonus.

See, that's where your bias starts to show through. He was objectively not garbage. He had a 59.8 completion % with a 2.5-1 TD/Int ratio over his career on some really bad teams. And those teams did not improve during his benching. In fact SF has kinda been trash since, except for Jimmy G's run 2 years ago to close out the season. He may not have ended up an all-star or even a starter, but he'd at absolute worst be a top 3 backup in this league with an ability to come in and win games.

I take it compensation comes in the form of exposure?

Yet you act like it's some moral injustice that they don't show up to play. RBs in particular provide extremely high value over extremely short windows. They have to take advantage before what happened to Gurley and countless other backs inevitably happens to them. If the league wants to fix it, which they don't, they'd do fully guaranteed contracts liek every other sport. It's funny watching the richest sports league act like the poorest.

This is hilariously out of touch. Do you say the same thing to the owners who cut talent mid-way through contracts? I'm all for these guys getting their money, because the owners will give them the least amount they have to. Holding out is their only option.

Not sure if this site is accurate, but looks like OJ was the very first inductee in 1980 and stood alone until 1984: http://billsfans1.tripod.com/wall_fame.html

OJ's on the wall, because he's arguably the greatest Buffalo Bill of all time. To this day his guilt has never been proven, so how are you going to take him off now without new evidence? I mean, it's a really bad look, but what can you do and where do you draw the line? The requirements for being found "liable" in a civil case are extremely less rigorous than being found "guilty" in a criminal trial. If you were going to do it 25 years ago, you could make a case for it, but how and why now? "According to The Wall Street Journal, in a criminal trial, the jury must unanimously find the defendant guilty"beyond a reasonable doubt" in order to convict. However, the same burden of proof does not exist in civil cases, which merely require what's referred to as a "preponderance of evidence." According to Cornell University Law School, that "preponderance of evidence" means that at least "50 percent of the evidence points to something," rather than requiring a unanimous decision." https://www.bustle.com/articles/152048-what-does-oj-simpsons-civil-trial-verdict-mean-liable-does-not-mean-guilty

Forgetting of course that he was found not guilty, like it or not.

I'm guessing all 3 apply in this case.

I think their logic goes: Not elite college LTs make good NFL RT's and Not elite college RTs make good NFL guards.

I recall that the draftnicks suggested he'd be a better guard than a tackle in the pros, so maybe it's not that big of a deal?

Isn't there a rally somewhere that you should be at?

And? I'm just trying to get to the bottom of what an internet blogger is, and why it discredits someone from being a real journalist in 2019. It's an extremely outdated term that suggests he's just some guy on reddit with a hot take. Newspapers have been dead for 10 years, and any serious journalist treats online content as their first source these days. If you want to say he doesn't have enough market reach, or he isn't affiliated with a big enough brand - yea ok, that makes sense. But the whole "blogger" thing just makes me think that there's just a bunch of old guys sitting around here waiting for this internet fad thing to end.

So if you're an editor for ESPN.com are you an "internet blogger"? How do you define that?

Is an "internet blogger" not a professional?

Yeah, ok. Good talk.

I'm almost always the last person to take a QB in my leagues - often I'm taking my first string QB after someone has taken their 2nd and it's worked out very well on average. If I remember correctly I think you have to go back over 10 years to find a QB who lead the league in point sin back to back seasons and just about every year someone comes out of nowhere to be in the top 5. Given a 12 team league, you will have a more than serviceable option like Stafford/Rivers/Roethlisberger as the last QB taken. And then you can grab a guy like Allen or Fitzpatrick (who seems to always be good for a couple 40+ point games a season in the final round or two) I played Allen with some success down the stretch last year and even had McCown for his sick run a couple years back, as well as Watson his rookie year. High floor QBs are easy to get and getting the best of the year is almost always luck.

Well, you keep pointing out he's not a professional scout, which should be obvious, but it's very clear he has way more subject matter expertise than most NFL reporters. Of course getting press access isn't a "right", but giving press access to strong, thoughtful, and detailed writers would indeed be the "right" thing to do for the organization, if they cared at all about their fans - which they prove time and time again they don't.

I think Bodine will be ok with better talent around him.

He turned into a solid back for the ravens. He never really recovered from losing a step due to his knee injury, but a good player in spite of it.