oldmanfan

Perhaps not my finest moment. But as someone who has dedicated his life to research and patient care it sometimes gets to me when people are so ignorant of how medicine helps people.

Sometimes one has to resort to hyperbole. There are folks here that refuse to recognize the value that vaccines have provided to the world. Refuse to acknowledge actual fact. So that was my intent -I used examples of different viruses that have been largely controlled or eradicated through vaccines. It sounds harsh I know but it was to make the point.

Then let me propose a solution. Let’s take you and folks like you and give you a state to live in. South Dakota maybe. Then what we’ll do is open up a few vials of different viruses while we have some in a nice enclosed area. Let’s say smallpox, Ebola virus, Covid-19 as starters. Maybe some anthrax. Throw in some meningitis bacteria, and some shingles virus to add some pain. Then out you go. We won’t provide masks of course, and we’ll throw parties every night for you, maybe have Trump come in and do some rallies for you. Just want to make sure you have plenty of opportunity for you to interact with others and ensure everyone gets exposed. We’ll build a wall around the state border (because we know how much you love your walls), and those of us who understand and appreciate how science and medicine and the development of vaccines have essentially saved the world will sit by and watch. I give you a week at the outside before all are dead.

Because we’ve developed effective vaccines against many deadly viral diseases. Your complete lack of understanding of science, medicine, and just basic facts is stunning.

Because we have pretty good immune systems. But if the wrong one crosses over from animals to us look out.

Steven Wright is pure gold.

Depends how many new strains become infectious and how deadly they would be. It is quite conceivable a pandemic involving several new viruses could wipe out most of the world’s population. Bottom line is viruses are nasty little things.

We hope some of the animal viruses don’t undergo transmission to humans

Here’s the math. The post you responded to indicated there are hundreds of corona viruses. He overestimates but he’s closer to reality than you saying there are 8. There may only be 8 that have caused human diseases thus far, but no one knew about Covid-19 and its devastating effects until it became infectious to humans. so yes you are mistaken yet again. Not surprising of course.

The family Coronaviridae has at least 47 different viruses. Some thus far have infected humans but as we see with Covid-19 animal to human transmission is certainly possible. So you’re wrong yet again.

And comedy tastes change with time. Vaudeville was an early firm of comedy and it isn’t around anymore. What you consider legendary is just your opinion. Others have a different thought of what is funny. But because they may not agree with you, it means comedy is dead? Get over yourself.

Maybe. It will be interesting to see the final roster for the D line.

And all three of them are doing successful shows and doing fine. So to go back to the original question: is woke killing comedy? Of course not or these guys wouldn’t be doing so well, would they? The woke crap is just that: crap. It is a made up issue.

Just stop. Stop. Chris Rock has a big 2021 tour planned. Seinfeld Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee is up for another season and is very popular. Chappelle can do virtually whatever he wants. They are all working and doing what they want. If, indeed, to the OP's question Has Wokeness Killed Comedy, the answer for the guys you've mentioned is a resounding no. Comedians that aren't funny and think an act that just slams an demeans people without the subtleties of sarcasm and such may lose jobs, and rightfully so. Because they aren't funny. Some people keep saying they're sick of wokeness. I am sick of people thinking wokeness is actually a real issue and a way for the Trumplican party to try and win elections. There are real issues to be concerned about in this country.

I think Star does what Start gets paid to do, he mucks things up in the middle. At least McD seems to think he serves a valuable purpose.

I hesitate to respond since you have proven you will deliberately lie about what I write, but if you read my post it says specifically that it may kill comedians with little talent that have to rely on cheap shots to try and be funny. Murray and Rock are great comedians, and they write material that points to the absurdity of racial bias and such. By the way, what you call facts? Those are your opinions. There's a difference.

I agree completely, which is why I was hoping we'd draft a big fat tub of goo as another 1 technique. Getting Star back will help. Maybe Phillips will be better as he should be fully recovered from his ACL. I still anticipate a tub of goo veteran signed before the season starts.

A couple months before the pandemic hit, I took a standup comedy class that my daughter (who had taken it the year before) gave me for Christmas. It was really interesting to learn how to structure jokes and such, and at the end of it the 13 of us in the class had to do a 5 minute original set in front of a live audience with a few hundred people in the audience. I was the last one to do my set, and mine was structured around being a husband and father of two daughters, and how that makes one a broken man. Didn't use one off-color word, not one off color joke, and I got a standing O. And afterward I had a lot of people coming up to me telling me how appreciative they were that I did a clean set; that some of the ones that relied on sexist or off-color stuff just wasn't funny. Some comedians have found gold in approaching subjects like race and such. Richard Pryor is right with Carlin as the top stand ups in history, but Pryor came at it from a satirical vantagepoint. Another guy who died too soon is Bill Hicks, could be very off color but because he was using it to point out the absurdity of racism and such. Bill Burr also goes to the extreme to point out absurdities, and it is true that there are a few folks that go over the top in their outrage over what they perceive to be slights. But they are in a small minority.

I agree. I think Oliver will be good, but the problem is he came in being compared to Donald which is an unfair comparison. But he'll be a force I think. I think Epinesa will continue to improve year 2. And rumor is that Bruce is going to be personally tutoring Rousseau.

No it has not killed comedy and to say so is ridiculous. It may have killed comedians with little talent so the only thing they can come up with is to take cheap shots at folks because of their race or sexual orientation and such. And that won't be missed except for the bigots and such that think it's somehow funny.

I'm optimistic about the guy they got from Carolina.

They drafted two DE's that can also move inside on passing downs, and got the kid from Carolina in free agency that had 5.5 sacks last year. Not sure how much more they could have done.

Never look at PFF, never will.

With every stupid decision like this the former Republican, now Trumpian, party digs their grave a little deeper. January 6th was an attempt to overturn results of a free and fair election. Lessons need to be learned from it, and a bipartisan agreement was reached to do so. But the Trumpian sycophants honestly believe that the same guy who lost the House, Senate, and White House to the Democrats is the guy who they should follow to regain power. The Trumpian sycophants use the tired bromide of false equivalency to the protests over George Floyd to defend their position. And you think independents, moderates, and actual Republicans are stupid enough to buy into this garbage? They didn’t in 2020, and the stretch from the garbage is reeks even more now. One can only hope this nonsense is shouted down clearly and decisively in 2022; then we can get back to having an honest to God Republican Party worthy of the name.

Underrated actor to be sure.