oldmanfan

They are not discussing it being taught by and large. It is right wing demagogues saying they are teaching it with no evidence as such. Again, in the district where I live the superintendent had to deal with parents yelling and screaming about it. When he pointed out that the curriculum is controlled by the state Department of Education and includes nothing about CRT, the parents with a political agenda had already left the meeting because they did not want to hear the truth. Parents yelling about this are using their kids as political pawns. It is shameful.

That is what diversity, equity and inclusion teaches. Will that work for you?

Completely agreed

Of course it’s very early, but you have to admit as a Bills fan you had a smile on your face watching Rousseau the other night.

Watch. Within a year we’ll have to put trips back in. This thing has been messed up by 4 separate administrations, 2 Republican and 2 Democrat.. Should have done the job the right way in 2001.

CRT to my knowledge is not being taught in elementary my or high schools so your point is moot. If someone tried to push it on school systems to teach then yes they would be. I have said numerous times I do not think CRT should be taught at a secondary school level. I have also said that diversity, equity and inclusion education should be and that there are folks, including parents, saying it is the same as CRT, which it is not, and that parents are shamefully using their children as political pawns.

I don’t think we will eradicate Covid, but we will control it. I don’t know of a coronavirus that has been eradicated.

Vaccines by definition mount immune response which is exactly what they do. The delta variant is more infectious and there are so-called breakthrough cases, but I believe there are studies showing vaccinated people are much less likely to transmit. Covid works the same as other viruses, it infects and propagates. As more get vaccinated the amount of hosts go down as do viral loads. It will take time. I doubt we will ever completely eradicate Covid but we can and will get to a point where it is controlled. My guess is we’ll be getting yearly Covid immunizations like we get them for the flu.

I agree it would be great to have effective anti-virals as for example with HIV. The vaccines will eventually slow down or stop transmission as the virus is deprived more and more of hosts. But then the virus mutates to try and keep the advantage as we see with delta. The vaccinated carrying high loads is a small subset of the total vaccinated as I understand it. Bottom line is the vaccinated are now being asked to mask again to try and spare the unvaccinated from their own stupidity.

We will have to see whether Covid can be eradicated. The effectiveness of the vaccines, especially mRNA vaccines, in preventing illness is promising and because of the technology they can rapidly sequence the genome of any variants and adjust the mRNA to compensate. I don’t think we will completely eradicate Covid, but we will markedly limit its spread as more get vaccinated and hosts are decreased. And hopefully as with many viruses the more it mutates the less harmful it will be.

As I said, viruses evolve to tricks the immune system. Some are better at it than others. And because it’s not a 100% effective response you think it means zero. Forty years in research and I have to sit here and have some science wannabe try to tell me how viruses work.

Yes he was the bad guy because he did the Code Red. Duh. No, defending this country is not a bad thing.

You are absolutely wrong. It resides in the respiratory epithelium in conducting airway epithelium where it propagates and eventually reached the airway exchange epithelium of the alveoli and surrounding capillaries where it wreaks havoc. It is no different than other viruses; it enters felled, uses those cells to propagate, and if you can generate an immune response against it you defeat it. It comes down to the ability of the immune system to generate a response, which in turn has a lot to do with the availability of the receptor proteins to the immune system and the ability of the virus to mutate and fool the immune system. Some viruses such as the cold virus and HIV have been able to adapt such that we can’t generate an effective immune response. Others such as polio and measles are essentially eradicated. You are a classic example of the ignorance on this board. To you if it’s not 100% it must be zero. That is not how science or virology works. Pathogenesis of COVID-19 from a cell biology perspective Robert J. Mason European Respiratory Journal 2020 55: 2000607; DOI:10.1183/13993003.00607-2020 Read and learn

Good question. We should have.

Zealots generally are not very helpful to any cause. She looks like a prime example.

I have a doctorate in Anatomy and have done cell biological and clinical research for over 40 years, plus I teach physiology (including basic immunology) and sit on an FDA advisory panel. Viruses are not cells. They are basically packages of DNA or RNA generally with a protein coat (capsid) that allows the virus to attach to the host cell. The Covid-19 spike protein is an example of such. Upon entry into the host cell the viral DNA uses the host cell’s protein synthetic apparatus to create more copies of the virus. Eventually the cell dies, the now multiple copies of the virus go on to infect other cells and propagation continues. Vaccines work by inducing the immune system to either make antibodies (humoral response) that block the viral receptors on host cells or induce T cell responses (cellular immunity) that recognize and kill the virus. Either way, vaccines induce immune responses that decrease the ability of viruses to infect cells, and when that happens the virus is deprived of its ability to propagate. This is basic virology and immunology. Now, what is your background, and do you want to continue arguing?

That’s the Tailban to fund their desire for world domination. You were inferring the US stayed there to somehow support heroin production.

Year by year from 2001 on: no major buildings in the US were blown up by the Taliban or terrorist groups based in Afghanistan. Show me evidence of your heroin nonsense or pipe down.

Drugs work somewhat differently than vaccines. Many drugs on the market work on membrane receptors which then normally send downstream signals into the cell. So the effect on those downstream events can get tricky. Vaccines basically prevent viruses from entering cells and don’t generally have downstream intracellular effects. The side effects of vaccines are more due to accelerated response of the immune system and thus get picked up pretty quickly. mRNA viruses are indeed different but as I indicated they are mRNA packaged in lipids to maintain solubility. The mRNA is transcribed and then rapidly degraded. And there is no genomic effect. Unless you are buying into the nonsense about magnetism and secret chips, the biology of these vaccines are very simple.

You are hung up on the heroin fantasy.To quote Colonel Jessup: you have no idea how to protect a nation.

The virus may hang around, but by vaccinating as many as possible you deprive the virus of hosts to propagate and/or mutate.

Should never have taken out the troops.

With infection rates rising in younger folks with delta, I’m worried. Although mortality rates still look low I’m concerned with long term effects on kids.

Sorry but wrong. You negotiate where you can, but you cannot negotiate with irrational people who are out to destroy you. Trump supposedly cut a deal with the Taliban and they laugh at it now as they take over Afghanistan and slaughter people. You live in a Pollyanna fantasy world. Ideally yes. But when you are a superpower you have to be willing to use that power.

I understand your position.