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Be good for Josh and some other vets to knock a little rust off. Want to watch our young linemen more today. No injuries please!

No it is not the practice of medicine. If anyone actually denied care to a patient based on race in our network they’d get bounced so quickly their head would spin. Where DEI benefits our organization is helping all employees understand you can sometimes exert unconscious behaviors or biases that can negatively impact the workplace and thus impact our care of patients. You kind of give away your own bias about lumping DEI together with CRT by focusing your question on race. DEI does not do so; DEI helps understand that we need to recognize potential biases against anyone: women, men, LGTBQ community, immigrant populations, difference in employment status, differences in socioeconomic status. And yes race. I’ll give you an example of where DEI has helped our organization: relationship of doctors and nurses. We had an issue with some docs just ripping nurses to shreds (male or female) because they viewed them as underlings, as uneducated. When DEI education was introduced as mandatory every year, docs realized their implicit bias. Relationships between nursing staff and physicians improved. Our patient care improved, patient’s evaluation of their care improved, and that improved our Medicare receivables. My point is that DEI and SEL (socioeconomic learning) is much more that race. Much more. You ask how it can affect schooling. Because kids should understand that they all get a shot at a good education, that biases against their fellow students are not healthy, and because when their education is completed and they enter the work force understanding that will be essential. I can give you a couple practical examples. The city where I live is middle to upper middle class, and about 80% of students are white, 5% Asian, 10% black, and the remaining other minorities primarily Hispanic. Many kids are well off economically, but about 10% of the total student body is on assisted lunch and other programs because they are too poor to afford things like lunch or backpacks or other learning essentials. DEI teaching in our schools has helped the more affluent kids understand the difficulties of those classmates, and in return we see the more affluent kids on their own start programs to raise money at football games, choir concerts, and such to help out their fellow students. Those students benefit from that, they have a better attitude towards learning and thrive. It’s a great thing to see. The schools aren’t perfect yet. There is still bullying based on race, kids are still called the N word. My daughter before she graduated was teased because she’s Asian, and people would assume she was smart and that her parents made her study 8 hours a night, not knowing she’s adopted. But overall by inclusion of DEI and SEL principals in the schools we see a more inclusive learning environment where the contributions and talents of each kid are celebrated and rewarded. So that is why I keep talking about the DEI and SEL concepts. Because I see value in them, and because I am tired of seeing people who are not proponents of CRT lump everything together. I have read some on CRT and it has nothing to do with the other concepts. CRT is a theory and theories are just that. My impression of CRT is that it reminds me of scientific papers that I review and reject; that the authors have a theory and then seek to bend data to fit their theory, rather than let data drive the formulation of a theory. I suspect the original proponents of CRT did just that, and as such I’m skeptical. Sorry for the lengthy reply, but I hope it clarifies my position. Go Bills!

Exactly. CRT has nothing to do with critical race theory and should not be lumped in with it.

Stop with the nonsense. I said infection and hospitalization rates are going up in the 18-38 age group and specifically said mortality rates are not going up at the same rate. Grad level stats classes; I don’t need to defend my math abilities to someone who can’t read. I think McD would disagree based on his press conference yesterday.

They are being bastardized by those who don't like CRT. They try to lump them together with CRT and they are not the same thing. We do DEI training every year and it has benefitted our health care network.

I will

Write back when you read up on DEI and SEL

I read through the link. I didn’t see anything that said the actual CRT material was being taught. Some are upset that teachers are advocating for BLM, but that is not CRT. CRT is a specific theory about how our laws and such are influenced by conscious and unconscious history of racism. The problem is people take other things they may not like and throw them under the blanket CRT label to try and inflame things.

Expression of the weak

I said in another thread today we have not seen a run of weak Presidents like we've had this century since before the Civil War.

I think you may be basing your analysis on older data not including the delta variant data. The most recent data I've seen indicates that infection and hospitalization rates are rising in the 18-39 year old age group, the vast majority being unvaccinated. I hope I'm wrong about my prediction, I really do. And the data on the delta variant suggest mortality rates are not rising to the same extent as infection rates. But I think Dawkins this year and Sweeney last year were both very fortunate. Looking at McKenzie's tweet yesterday makes me thing players are refusing to take this virus seriously. It may take a fatality of a player to wake some guys up.

Yeah, someone has already asked me if I would send my daughters into it and I said yes. The Internet tough guys around here are people like you. You reek of false, jingoistic patriotism. You like to insult and bash folks who don't to to what you think is right in the world. You yell about folks who kneel during the anthem and so on. But when push comes to shove, you want our country to be weak. You want to spend more than the next 30 countries in the world on our military, then not have the stones to use it to fight evil in the world. Sending troops into the field is the most difficult decision a President can ever make. If that job were mine, I would not make it lightly. And if I had to make the dreaded phones call to a parent or a spouse that their loved one died in service, I'm sure I'd do so with tears in my eyes, and that it would affect me greatly. But we have an existential threat to us in the Middle East. An existential threat to us, to our allies especially in Israel, a threat to freedom, a threat to the women and children of that country who will now be enslaved at best. And you want to do nothing. Not me. America stands for good vs. evil, for freedom, for human rights and decency in the world. At least my America does. Maybe yours doesn't. Good guys would die. It happens in war, and is not to be taken lightly. But you watch, we'll have troops back in there before Biden's term is up to fight the terrorist cells that are going to prop up.

Force. Overwhelming and devastating force from the most powerful military in the history of the world. Use Bush the First as a template, but go further. Get your allies together, get your troops, and give them a defined mission. Hunt down and destroy any Taliban forces and terrorist cells in Afghanistan. It is time to stop kidding ourselves. Radical Islam is a battle of good vs. evil. They want us dead, they want our allies the Israelis dead, they want to destroy us. You don't negotiate with such people. You destroy them. And for 20 years we have not because we have had weak and feckless leadership from our Presidents.

I understand the science, and the science is not in quotes. The fact that you put science in quotes shows your ignorance. The data on the delta variant shows that younger people are more prone to getting infected, possibly due to the fact that so many older folk were smart enough to get vaccinated. Will the larger, fatter, D and O linemen be more at risk? Yeah probably. But I didn't say that it would be a WR that dies. I said I predict that an NFL player dies. Read what is written.

Nope, can't read yet again. I said you have your head up his butt, which is true. I didn't say only Trump is to blame. What should have been done the past 20 years is to wipe out the Taliban and terrorist threats in that country. That is on all 4 presidents who dropped the ball.

Another guy who needs to take his head out of Trump’s butt to actually read. Biden is responsible for the deaths of those 13 brave warriors because he screwed up the withdrawal. We would not have been in the position where that happened if the last 4 presidents had formulated policies to take care of the Taliban and terrorist threats definitively.

I am saying Beasley is the most strident and is influencing others around him. And while there are protocols in place this season, they are not being followed as evidenced by what happened this week.

Failure to follow protocols is going to increase the potential for spread of Covid in the locker room. Beasley refuses not only to get vaccinated, but apparently also refuses to wear a mask and refuses to understand the significance of such. His strident views are unfortunately affecting the opinions of other players such as McKenzie and Davis. You see what's happening this week with now 3 WRs not available for practice, along with 2 LB and 2 D linemen. It is easy to see what will happen from here. This same kind of outbreak will occur during the season and cost us games because key players will not be on the field. And I would also predict that some of these players will be lost for multiple weeks because they will get really sick, like Dawkins did. No NFL team can withstand losing key players, but that's what's going to happen. It has this week, and unless behaviors change it will happen during the season. Now, I know what you'll ask. If vaccinated people can spread, then why is Beasley wrong? He's wrong because of the nature of the virus and the delta variant. The delta variant is much more infectious, but the data still indicate vaccinated folks are less likely to get infected. The delta variant builds up in high numbers in the upper respiratory region, and that's why even vaccinated folks can pass it for a couple days. But that ability in vaccinated people wanes much more quickly than unvaccinated, and vaccinated folks will be able to return to duty much quicker than unvaccinated. And of course vaccinated people are at much, much, much less risk of significant illness. I understand McD's frustration. The team I am sure has had experts talk to the players, and they still refuse to get vaccinated, a vaccine where the benefits are huge and the risks are extraordinarily small. But you have players h who other wise trust the medical staff refuse to listen about Covid because the politicians and Internet nut cases have turned a health problem into a stupid political cause. And that is killing people. I could be wrong, hope I am, but I predict an NFL players dies this season from Covid.

Beasley is going to cost the Bills any shot at a Lombardi. He'll have to answer to his teammates for that, and the fans.

No. A horrendous decision and if I am him I am wondering if I should resign out of principle. But there is nothing impeachable about a President making a horrible decision. Reagan lost the Marines in Lebanon and I would not have called for his impeachment either.

What did I post? What? Here is what I wrote: Biden has full responsibility for these deaths. Those are the exact words I wrote. You, sir, are an idiot. Now, let's look at the 20 years that led us to yesterday, where Biden screwed up the withdrawal and cost us 13 Americans. Yesterday was the culmination of 20 years of horsebleep policies from Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. Bush should have done what his dad did, put together an overwhelming force to wipe out the terrorists in Afghanistan and the Taliban that supported them. He didn't. Mistake one. Obama should have then shown more foreign policy chops and not laid down red lines in Syria that he then ignored - that showed all the terrorists including the Taliban that if they were patient America would cave. Mistake two. Trump then tries to be friends with despots around the world, cuts a deal with the TAliban that short circuits the Afghan government and cuts them off at the knees, and allows 5000 Taliban to be released to fight us. Mistake three. Biden then comes in, completely FUBARs the withdrawal, and gets 14 soldiers killed. Mistake four. Other the the pre-civil was period, we have never seen a stretch of presidents as weak as the ones we have had in this century.

Biden has full responsibility for these deaths. He and the past 3 presidents have the responsibility for creating the situation we saw yesterday. They should all have to write the letter to the 13 brave Marines that were killed. Yesterday was the result of 4 Presidents who refused to understand that America stands, or rather used to stand, against evil in the world.

Just saw that 4 Marines were killed. Go in and wipe these people out!

Two bombs have gone off near the Kabul airport. There may be US casualties. Send in our military in overwhelming numbers and take care of these terrorists!

Viruses are such tricky beasts. You'll have some like measles where a vaccine essentially wipes it out, then you have one like HIV where you can't get a vaccine but treatments can control it. Covid seems to fall in the former category somewhat given the effectiveness of the vaccines, but more like the flu where we'll need shots on a periodic basis.