oldmanfan

That’s the Tailban to fund their desire for world domination. You were inferring the US stayed there to somehow support heroin production.

Year by year from 2001 on: no major buildings in the US were blown up by the Taliban or terrorist groups based in Afghanistan. Show me evidence of your heroin nonsense or pipe down.

Drugs work somewhat differently than vaccines. Many drugs on the market work on membrane receptors which then normally send downstream signals into the cell. So the effect on those downstream events can get tricky. Vaccines basically prevent viruses from entering cells and don’t generally have downstream intracellular effects. The side effects of vaccines are more due to accelerated response of the immune system and thus get picked up pretty quickly. mRNA viruses are indeed different but as I indicated they are mRNA packaged in lipids to maintain solubility. The mRNA is transcribed and then rapidly degraded. And there is no genomic effect. Unless you are buying into the nonsense about magnetism and secret chips, the biology of these vaccines are very simple.

You are hung up on the heroin fantasy.To quote Colonel Jessup: you have no idea how to protect a nation.

The virus may hang around, but by vaccinating as many as possible you deprive the virus of hosts to propagate and/or mutate.

Should never have taken out the troops.

With infection rates rising in younger folks with delta, I’m worried. Although mortality rates still look low I’m concerned with long term effects on kids.

Sorry but wrong. You negotiate where you can, but you cannot negotiate with irrational people who are out to destroy you. Trump supposedly cut a deal with the Taliban and they laugh at it now as they take over Afghanistan and slaughter people. You live in a Pollyanna fantasy world. Ideally yes. But when you are a superpower you have to be willing to use that power.

I understand your position.

Yeah, I think we should be standing up for those people as well.

https://apnews.com/3dfa64fbcc15603f5e615774400c34de Terry and Kim know they will pay some of the costs. Just have to figure out the balance now.

Seeing the Hit Heard Round the World is still one of the best memories of my life

I am an independent politically, but will readily admit I am very conservative when it comes to things like foreign policy and law enforcement. I just think America should stand for humanity and fight to protect those who would be wiped out by genocide. I think that’s what the Taliban will do. Thank you for writing this. You obviously put a lot of thought into it, and in turn it causes me to think through my positions more.

Then we disagree. You seem to think we should just let religious zealots keep growing their base and destroying people. They won’t stop. The longer we wait the worse it will be. I don’t say what I say lightly. I have the utmost respect for anyone who wears the uniform. I lived through Vietnam. It was indeed brutal. I was just young enough to not have to be in the draft lottery. But that was about communism and what political philosophy was best. The Taliban are about taking over the world and converting them to their twisted version of Islam, and wiping out those who aren’t zealots. I agree with your view. Clearly I would deal with it differently but this is where the country is. Oh, so do you think the answer is to talk about how much we are “in love” with the lunatic Korean dictator? They laugh at us over there, and the first chance they’ll attack. You can’t deal rationally with irrational people. You take them out before they hurt you.

I am not worried about any long term effects of the vaccines. First, historically side effects from vaccination are extraordinarily rare and, if they occur, are seen within weeks. We saw this with the very rare blood clot issues and the myocarditis with the Covid vaccines, which are picked up quickly due to the reporting mechanisms used globally. Granted then mRNA viruses are new technology, but they are basically lipid packages of mRNA. The mRNA is transcribed then degraded, and does not alter the genome in any way. SoI don’t see where the theoretical fear of long term adverse effects are supported based on the science.

I go in with forces today, either ground or air as needed, and take out their missile launch capacity. And if they ever launch a nuclear device I follow in kind without question. So your answer when they start enslaving and beating and killing women and children and all those who do not go along with them, when the genocide starts, is to shrug your shoulders? Not acceptable.

You negotiate first with the CCP. You can’t negotiate with the Taliban because you cannot negotiate with irrational zealots that want to destroy you. You destroy them. No I have faith in our military. They are the finest fighting force the world has ever seen.

Yes they do. And even if they didn’t pose an immediate threat, America is supposed to stand against threats to humanity. Nope. Hundreds of thousands of troops. Until the job is done. Only reason we’d lose is if we give in to folks like you that want to turn America into a weakling.

Let’s take a few of these. Biden is wrong on Afghanistan, no question. The border is no better or worse because we refuse to do what’s needed, arrest those who employ undocumented immigrants and deal with the countries and their drug cartels and such that force people to flee for their lives to try and get here. Crime rates are high because mayors and cities refuse to let police do what they need to do, because police refuse to weed out the bad apples that sew so much distrust, and because pastors and other inner city leaders refuse to guide the youth correctly. The teaching CRT thing is abject nonsense framed up by Trumpists looking for a bizarre issue; secondary schools do not teach CRT and parents are shamefully using their own kids as political pawns. The current administration has a great plan for Covid: they are called vaccines but again the Trumpists and other morons (and that includes minority groups in the inner cities) refuse to listen to reason and science and instead put up false boogeymen. And I haven’t followed the Africa thing.

I already told you. Get our allies together and go in with massive, overwhelming force. Put hundreds of thousands of troops there and keep them there until the threat is eradicated.

Whoever # 68 is.

I’m tired of reading the fake patriotism on this board and it’s coming out today. I apologize to you because we tend to agree a lot, but you got the brunt of my frustrations. I do not apologize to some others here. We should model these for the rest of the world. And what are we doing now? Taking a health crisis and making it a political football. Threatening our own democracy by threatening the right to vote. It’s disgraceful. And when the Taliban takes over and starts slaughtering people, you’re damn right we should go in and stop it. We should have years ago.

You didn’t read it because you’re anti-America.

No I understand America. America stands for democracy, stands for justice, stands for freedom. America stands for the oppressed, for human rights. America recognizes its role as a superpower and has responsibilities to lead in the world. Americans are not afraid of recognizing that we are an imperfect union, and despite our standing as a model to follow we can always do better. America is not afraid to allow its citizens to exert their rights as outlined in your Constitution. Americans when faced with a crisis band together. All of these are America, except that many of these have changed in the past 5 years. And it’s easy to see why.

And who wanted to pull out last term? Biden is wrong on this issue. So was Trump. So were Obama and Bush. The Taliban should have been crushed way back in 2001-2002. As far as who to vote for, you vote based on overall policies candidates espouse, not single issues. But because you are so enamored with attaching your lips to Trump’s genitalia you don’t get that either.