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Imagine how good Fromm would have to be to start over Allen? I know it’s not going to happen but there’s no way Bills fans should be angered by the premise. If Fromm somehow won the starting job, despite it not even being a competition....it would mean the guy is probably going to be a super star. It also would mean we have 2 young, financially controllable qbs, we could win with.

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I don’t think it works like that. Almost no way they are flexing a Monday night game

The guy has been done for 5 years. I hope we play Gore 16 times this season. He’s terrible

Maybe I’m weird but I wish there were no leaks. I look forward to that release all off season and it kind of sucks to know half of it before the show. I know I can just “not look” but it’s hard to not.

It’s usually Thursday of the release week. That’s what I’m expecting

Idc if there are fans there or not. As long as it’s on TV, I’m good

I’m not sure that I agree with that honestly. Hughes has been very good at times and also wasn’t even starting in the beginning. The Dlines Hughes played on in the beginning were excellent. A lot of the sacks Hughes could have had, were swallowed up by other big time players. I realize that point could work for or against Jerry, but there were stretches when Hughes stood out. Even amongst some of the greats on his own team. Hughes was constantly disruptive and took games over. The on field discipline was lacking early on and mental mistakes were plentiful unfortunately. But Hughes was a game changer off the edge for a 2-3 year window. I can’t ever remember feeling like Schobel was impacting games the way “prime” Jerry Hughes did. I think most of Schobels sack totals were in low leverage, borderline garbage time seasons. Hughes also isn’t done yet. When he is done, he may be pretty close in the overall numbers. I’m not trying to say Hughes is clearly better, or even that he was better at all....I just don’t think I agree with Schobel being “significantly” better then Jerry. If Schobel was better at all, it was marginal IMO.

I don’t want to veer off on “what could have been”.....but this type of thing makes me think about what Cowart could have been, had injuries not ruined it. He might be on there today or maybe even have the # retired. The possibilities were endless with that guy. Jason Peters is a first ballot hall of famer and that sucks, but it’s different with Cowart. You just never even got to see. Even if he did it somewhere else (like Peters) It just sucks that he never even got the chance.

That’s kind of how I feel too. Maybe it’s just because of how all those seasons went. It was just a career of irrelevance and he had a humble personality. Just nothing he ever did stood out and you didn’t really notice him. Or at least I didn’t. You almost had to be told he’s good. That’s a strange thing to say about a guy. Mario Williams was awesome but people down play what he did. I think fans thought he was going to get a sack on every play and when he didn’t, it was a let down. Mario was incredible and stood out when you watched him but will be forgotten over time. Schobel blended in with the scenery but he’s talked about with the great D lineman in Bills history.

Why are there 2 threads on this guy? 1- I doubt the Pats end hi actually starting this guy. It’s only May and there is no camp in sight. I bet they still add a vet QB to start. 2- Whoever it is, will not be Tom Brady. It won’t be literally the greatest QB in NFL history. We were right there with those guys last season. We got better and they got worse. I’m not worried about Stidham regardless. We finally have Brady gone. I’m not guna start worrying about the next guy

Our entire team is excellent. There are absolutely no excuses now. If we don’t win playoff games, it’s on the QB. If we can’t win with this team, then we need to go get a vet QB next year and win before we have to start paying these young guys.

No Moulds on either list? The guy is probably the most deserving guy not on the wall. After Reed, it’s Moulds and nobody is even close to those guys.

And also Edgerson over Byrd? Both guys are before my time but I have done a lot of research on Bills history to pay respect to the team I love. That seems off to me. Both could be up there but if it’s one or the other, should be Byrd right?

There are certainly a few guys up there, that weren’t as good as Bennet or Moulds. Times are different now and maybe the current ownership has a difference in opinion on a few guys but it’s hard to say. I’m not old enough to have seen Ferguson play in person but from all I have seen and read...it’s a bit of a stretch to have him up there. There’s no way he deserves it more then Moulds IMO. If Moulds played with Kelly, who knows what he could have been.

I wonder what day it will come out? Thursday maybe?

This kind of made me re look up who is actually on the wall. There are a few really good players from the past not up there. Very strange. Bennet, Moulds, Brown all should absolutely have already been up there.

Brown is definitely a forgotten guy here. He was one of the few I was alluding to when I mentioned the Flutie years.

Guessing a guy that’s on the team now, is not a bad idea. Maybe the Bills won’t put anyone else in for a while and who knows how great these teams could end up being

Schobel is so weird for me. I can’t ever remember thinking he was really that good but he was pretty solid. He’s like one of those guys that you almost didn’t realize was “good” until he stopped playing. Like to me, Hughes is probably better. It might not end up being remembered that way but I just never felt strong about Schobel. Maybe it’s just me.

They would probably decline his 4th year if they could. The guy sucks

The (usually intolerable) Schopp and the Bulldog actually ran a pretty solid show Friday. They each drafted their own “all time Bills Defenses” and it was a nice break from reality. It kind of has me thinking about Bills of the past and who will be next to be recognized. Common thought will most likely be that it’s Kyle Williams but that doesn’t have to be right. Most of the big time 90s guys are taken care of and most of the pre super bowl year guys are too. The Flutie years were fun and a few of those players were really good. The drought era really left a lot to be desired. There was few solid players that stuck it out and a few excellent ones that didn’t last but nobody really jumps out at you. Guys like Fred, Eric Wood, Moorman and Kyle all have arguments for being up there but a lot goes into it. Im going to say the next guy is Moulds. I’m actually not really sure how he isn’t up there yet but I’m sure it’s personal. Moulds is the second best WR to ever play for the organization and is a no brained IMO. There’s not a ton to talk about right now, so I figured I’d throw in a change of pace. Who do you guys say is next?

I love the schedule release day so much. Usually it’s got a lot to do with what games il be going to, (this year might not matter) but it’s still great.

Really, it doesn’t matter how good he is. We have had to deal with the best QB in nfl history being in our division for the past 20 years. Only the Bills, Jets and Dolphins know what that hell is like. For the first time in 2 decades, the division isn’t over before the season starts. We are all on equal ground heading into the season and I’ll take that. This kid can be good, or even really good and it doesn’t matter. He’s not Brady. No matter who they have for the rest of time, they won’t be Brady. It’s finally over and I’m good with our chances against anyone else.

To be real, when this was in the National championship game as a freshman: I assumed down there road he’d be a #1 overall pick. Fast forward to now and we get the guy in a round where you usually pick 80% special teams nobody’s. Can’t be anything but thrilled about it. The possibilities are endless and the risk is zero. I believe this kid has a chance to be a long term back up and fringe starter (Frank Reiech type). Worst case he never materializes and it’s really no harm done.