JohnBonhamRocks

I think the focus on "big play ability" is telling. Do we want long TDs? Sure. We've got guys who run in the 4.3s and 4.4s who can provide that. What we really need though is "consistent play ability" meaning the guy who might not be flashy, but who is performs like he should week in and week out. It's the seasonal luxury sports car vs. daily reliable car debate. I like getting from point A to point B every day, not just 50-75% of them.

Right? Those who like the trade are at least willing to say that Watkins has more natural talent, but those who oppose it seem unable to grasp the importance of availability and it's impact on production. Back to the issue though, there's no way any of Matthews, Jones, or Streater can run a fly against an NFL corner...

But YPC! Matthews just can't go against NFL corners. Only Watkins can do that.

Does this mean you don't view the 40 as an effective way to measure speed? Obviously the guys have to be able to play, too, but Matthews has already shown he can, Streater had a good camp, and Jones was the most productive WR in college football the past 4 years.

Wonder if they told him about the injury misdiagnosis and asked, "You mad, Breaux?"

Streater: 4.37 Watkins: 4.43 Jones: 4.45 Matthews: 4.46

16 games? I'd say 65-70 catches, 900-1000 yards, and 7-8 TDs

Divas typically produce memoirs eventually, so we may know once that gets released.

Jordan Matthews

Apparently the Westin has robot-delivered room service... if that's a deal maker or breaker.

Hoping McDermott's approach to training and the new staff combine to decrease the injury number. BTW our WR corp ain't half bad, and it got better from last year: 2016 top 3 WR stats (Watkins/Woods/Goodwin): 108 catches, 1474 yards, and 6 TDs Average of Matthews & Boldin's last 3 years + average projections for Jones: ~188 catches, 2224 yards, and 14-15 TDs

For citation purposes, this was said yesterday on WGR and I think they mentioned the LA Times for Watkins' quote. Not sure for Darby, but assuming the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Could've been an audition. Could've been Taylor just chose to throw to Watkins. Either way, it's done, I don't think whether or not McDermott was aware matters all that much, and fans should inspect anything coming out of OBD through a critical lens.

$15.682 million for an average of 12.3 games played, 51 catches, 820 yards, and 5.7 TDs per year? Terrible value.

Bobby Shaw

I agree he's more talented. I just value availability and consistency over talent and potential.

Only plays 12 games per year... WOW! Do I really think cherry picking stats is useful? No, but I can do it too.

Also, for those touting Watkins' similarity in talent to the top 5 WRs in the league, what about that stat that Matthews is one of 5 or 6 WRs to put up the amount of catches and yards as he has in the first 3 years of his career in all of NFL history?

I should have clarified - I was talking about Watkins, asking if he is a WR1. Assuming you do based on your comments, I ask if you think that based on his production?

Do you say that based on production?

I do think Kelly was referring to the go-to role Watkins played for Taylor that Reed played for him. No reason Matthews can't be that for Taylor. Every time I note that Matthews is more consistent and available, I feel like I have to add a disclaimer that I understand Watkins is more talented.

Is Watkins as productive (note: not talented) a WR as McCoy is a HB?

I feel like Matthews plays more like Reed than does Watkins.

Maybe they take 2 QBs? Taylor v. Peterman v. draft pick v. draft pick next camp?

I agree that Watkins can recover from injury, like you pointed out with Jones, Bryant, and Edelman. It's about probability. Matthews, while less talented, is more likely to be available to play given both of their injury histories. Watkins might be entering his prime. He might not. Same for Matthews. I get your point regarding our passing game and scheme fit, but my point was that, Watkins or no Watkins, Dennison's play-calling and Taylor's ability at QB are going to be relatively the same. It boils down to a boom-or-bust argument I think. Watkins gives you the potential for a top 10 WR, but the injury and availability concerns loom. Matthews is less talented, but he's consistent and plays more often. I like the safer bet, that's all, but I do understand wanting to take that chance at the same time. It was mentioned somewhere above, but I would think the money aspect of the whole argument has to favor Matthews.