mjd1001

You are speaking from such a narrow point of view. Its almost funny how you are exasperated by my comment because you only see things through the point of view of an ardent Bills fan. I would bet the majority of the people living in the area are either not Bills fans or are casual fans.... a lot more than are hardcore fans. You just don't see it, you don't want to see it from the point of view of those people, or you aren't capable of. Everything I mentioned above does/would apply to those non-fans or casual fans (you know the ones who won't watch the Bills on TV or only watch them when they are competitive/winning.)

Other cities without the NFL would include places like....Austin, Tucson, Louisville, Orlando, Raleigh-Durham....Any Canadian City including Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver......not saying I don't want the Bills but just saying. Without an NFL team life goes on, and often times the money spent on those teams get re-allocated other places and generates other entertainment options. Again, I do not want the Bills to leave Buffalo at all, but I have to admit I have thought of what it would be like in WNY without the Bills and what may pop up in the void they leave for people to do with their entertainment dollar/time.

I'm not saying the Packers had any other choice, but I have a hard time seeing them as a Superbowl Champion going forward: -He got paid a lot before, but now with this new deal the Packers will have even less money to fill around him. Highest paid QB in the league means they have even les s money to improve other positions than anyone else, of course including KC, Buffalo. -As great as he was/is, in all the time he was a starter, in his last couple MVP seasons, they only one one Superbowl and failed in the playoffs not even reaching it most of the time. -Hes not getting younger. Will he hit a brick wall because of his age? probably not, but a contract like that you give to someone who is at their peak, or maybe still leading up to it. The best of Rodgers (at least physically) is no longer yet to come during this deal. He will likely still be great (at least for a year or two), he may very well be an MVP candidate, but this doesn't make me worry about the Packers as being a dominant team to beat.

I'm repeating what a lot of others have said, but the quality of the television broadcast is a big deal. If your team is really really good, you are going to sell out no matter what...not because your fans are great, but people really want to be part of a crowd, a positive party atmosphere, for some to say 'I was there' when something good happens to your team. No problem with that. But when you do have empty seats, it doesn't mean you have bad fans. It just means that there are a lot of people who USED to go to games in the past that now, they are perfectly happy paying a lot less, to sit at home, comfortable living room, any food they want to cook at reasonable prices...etc. That doesn't make them any less of a fan. In fact, I have a friend that played HS football, got into coaching, loves football, loves the Bills, never misses a game yet he won't go to one. Why? He says he could always look at the all-22 later in the week, but for the gameday experience he can see a lot more overall by being at home watching the game on TV and having access to his laptop or tablet to look up things while the game is going on. Its not just about your team, its not just about how 'good your fans are', it is about different people enjoying the gameday experience in different ways.

If the Bills are the #1 or maybe the #2 most important form of entertainment in ones life, it is a bargain. However, if you LIKE going to the Bills games, but you won't give up theater, movies, traveling a few times a year, other sports...etc.....then you have to make a decision how to allocate your money and $1000 a ticket might be better spent elsewhere while watching the games at home/bars/friends house. Personally for myself...The cost of the ticket, parking, concessions, the time it takes to spend a day at the stadium, it all adds up to quite a bit so for myself I'm much happier watching games at home. That is just me though. For others, the gameday experience is better than anything else they could do with their money so for them it is a no-brainer to go to the games. Its different for everyone, there is no right or wrong answer. Deciding whether it is worth it or not is like taking 2 people and trying to come up with what is the best food in the world, the answer is different for each person because each person is different.

I'd entertain the thought of Allen being the best sometime this year, but I need to see something first.... For him to have a more consistent year. Mahomes had a couple games this year that were 'average', but leading up to this year, how many games did he play where he wan't good to great? Hardly any. Allen needs to do that. Allen at his very best is just as good as Mahomes at his very best....just as good as pretty much anyone at their best. The issue keeping Allen from being 'the best' is my mind is...he isn't at 'his best' as often as some of the other top guys. He's getting there, but I want to see that MVP season where he doesn't have any 'below average' games.

For a lot of us we aren't 'done with football' because of one or two specific events. Remember this topic isn't who is 'done with football" it is who is 'losing interest'. there is a HUGE difference between 'losing interest' but still having some level of it..and being 'done with something'. I'm not quite sure why you are bringing up the 'done with football' when that isn't what this topic is about.

I am losing interest in pretty much all sports. I haven't "lost" it, but am losing it slowly. -I watch less and less of the games. I more 'follow' what is going on through reading articles and fan discussions like this. 15 years ago I would not have missed one second of any game, today though, if something better comes up I can even miss a Bills game and watch it later or just read about it. -The main reason? I'm not 100% sure, but a lot of it has to do with when I do watch a game, I don't see much that I haven't seen before. A run where a back makes people miss 3-4 tackles? Seen it. A come from behind victory? seen it. A 50+ yard game winning field goal? Seen it many times. One handed catches, strip sacks, pick sixes at critical times? Sure those are all exciting in the course of a game, but I have seen so many they aren't really new. -The process of watching the game. We all know this but kickoff or punt..commercials...change of possession...commercials...etc, etc. I read a study before that someone did that in an average NFL tame that you watch for 3-3.5 hours, there is about 10-12 minutes of actual action on the field. Take out the 'boring' plays (incomplete passes, runs for less than 2 yards, punts that are fair caught) and you are down to about 6-7 minutes. I can spend 1.5-2 hours watching a movie..that was scripted and its whole purpose was to be enjoyable and get a lot more entertainment out of it. -Finally, the end game. What do we all want? Our team to win (the Bills). But I'm tired going through everything that goes with that, investing time and money and watching every Sunday..to get to something that has never happened yet..and something that has a 1/32nd chance of happening....or even in the absolute best of years with the best Bills team...maybe 1 in 5 or 1 in 6? I do not see myself leaving this forum (or the Sabres forum), or getting to the point where I skip watching every single game. I am still a fan, but I'm probably 25% of the fan now that I used to be. On the other hand, I thought I would never give up baseball...when I was a kid or in my 20's I'd watch 150 of 162 games of the Yankees or Blue Jays...and I even remember in middle school I would supposed to be in bed and sneak a tiny AM radio under my covers to listen to the late night west coast games. But now, I haven't even watched a full 9 inning game in probably close to 10 years...so who knows.

I think that is a good way to look at it. To the causal/semi-casual football fan, this will be the game that in 5-10 years from now they don't remember much about. It is also likely to be the game that...when you challenge your friends to tell you the last 10 superbowl winners, this is the one in the future that is the least memorable and most likely to be forgotten.

The game was ok/good/competitive, but this was the least invested in any superbowl I could remember. I just didn't feel any excitement in it. Even at the end, I was like "Ok, there might be a game winning score here...or can the hold them?", but it was more like those thoughts were going 'through the motions' in my head instead of meaning anything. The Rams won, they are the champions...but deep down I don't feel they were even the best team in the NFC or the Bengals were the best team in the AFC. Again, the game was OK, but I personally didn't feel any drama...nothing invested. I don't know, kinda just an 'ok' but somewhat 'empty' feeling in this game because it just didn't matter to me in any way.

Not sure if this was posted from NESN out of Boston.... https://nesn.com/2022/02/mac-jones-became-afc-hero-nfl-pro-bowl-skills-showdown/ Mac Jones Became AFC Hero At NFL Pro Bowl Skills Showdown But the 23-year-old redeemed himself in Thread The Needle. After Minnesota Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins scored 11 points for the NFC, Jones overcame a tough start to score 12 points for the AFC and lead them to victory. In the end, he was responsible for the AFC’s only victory. Those Boston Media guys/writers, they are reaching SO HARD to make him look like he is one of the best QBs in the league.

Stud DL if you can get one (if all you can get are average-to-above average guys then I pass, we have those already) CB OL Thats it, I'm happy with everything else at the moment.

Not at all really. I'm HAPPIER seeing this than a Bucs/KC game because I want to see some different teams and not be hit over the head 1000 times with is 'Brady/Mahomes the best now or best ever' conversation. For that reason alone I will ENJOY watching this game more. But for the same reason I will ENJOY watching it (stress free), is the reason also I am not excited over it. I truly don't think these are the 2 best teams in the NFL. They are barely in the top 3 in their own conference. So whoever wins the game will be the Superbowl winner, the league champion and they will deserve it....but it takes a little of the excitement from the game when in my mind the winner might not even be one of the top 4 or 5 best teams in the league...and I know that going into the game. Except for that Rams vs Titans Superbowl back in 2000 where the Rams actually won the title. Different city they were representing, but the same team/franchise for sure.

Overrated, yes I agree. But I think it means SOMETHING, even if it is something small. I don't think it is much of a detriment. As we all hear all the time, by the end of the season most teams have bumps and bruises, and one more week to rest is certainly a lot better than no week to rest WITH another week to accumulate injuries. Plus, there is always a chance that a key player is going to have one of those 2-4 week injuries...and having the bye week might be at the right time to get them back for the first playoff game vs not. Home field advantage means something, but I think it really means a lot less than it used to. If for the last few decades we were told it was wroth 3 or 3.5 points...I think in reality it may me 1 or 1.5 STILL, I'd rather have it than not.

I agree. If you want to say he had the best career ever I'll entertain that because of longevity. But at their absolute peak, the best they ever were, of the Modern QB's I'll take peak Manning over Peak Brady. They were close, but I have never seen a QB in control of a game and dismantle any defense as good as Manning at his peak. As far as comparing him to other QBs from different times, to me that is only guessing so I stay away from doing that.

Yes, he most certainly is 'good enough'. That does'nt mean he is a top 5 back in the league. It also doesn't mean that it isn't possible to find someone better, but for this offense and team, he is more than good enough. -The was the main feature back for the most part the last few games, and with him as the feature back this offense put on close to a historical 2 game playoff performance. -The guy is averaging over 4.7 yard per carry for his career, and that is behind what is an 'average at best' run blocking line....I don't think many will say this OL is full of road-grating bulldozers opening massive holes for him. -Blocking he has gotten better, I am now pretty confident on biitz pickup he will at least identify and slow down a blitzing LB or DB. Out of the backfield he isn't a downfield receiving threat, but you have a lot of other players for that, instead he has turned into a reliable outlet guy for josh that knows how to find that short 4-7 yard dump-off area to be open for him. He is average-to-good at those things. I am under no illusions he is a top 10 back in the NFL, but in this offense I do not want premium dollars spent on that, I'd rather have it spent on the OL. But, is he 'good enough'? To me he is more than good enough for the role that needs to be played by a rb.

Probably not. I think this team is so Josh Allen centric that he has enough weapons around him. Now sure, could you always get better weapons and will it help? Yes, it would, but at what cost? The cap space that DK would eat up...how many more points would the Bills score compared to what you could do with that cap space on the OL, DL, LB or DB's? I think Allen can carry this offense with good weapons (not great) and the money spent on 'great' players can best be spent either protecting Allen or giving him a Defense that will win the KC game or the Tennessee game from earlier this year.

At this moment, this tread, and the sentiment by the title of it and the original poster, is in contention for the worst thread on this forum of 2022. I'm all for the discussion that it brings and this is what message board are for, just I can't disagree with it enough.

I agree with most of what you said, but the 2 things that matter to me above all else are the above. 13 seconds. Thats it. It trumps everything else The defense may have been RANKED #1 in some metrics, but whey weren't a #1 defense in many people's eyes for 2 reasons: -First, they 'fattened up' that ranking against some real bad competition. As other have said, what QBs did the Bills have to face that other teams had tougher ones throughout the year. Yes, you play who is on your schedule, but that schedule helped to contribute to that #1 ranking instead of a #5-#10 ranking. -Second, even if that #1 ranking is justified, this isn't what many of us remember as a #1 ranked defense. #1 in this case just means you allowed a few less yards and points than other teams. It doesn't carry the weight of the 85 bears, 2000 Ravens, 86 Giants, 2013 Seahawks, and others. Those were dominant Defenses, this D-unit, not even close.

Fine, might be true. But this is a game that really shouldn't have gotten there. 13 seconds? 13 seconds? There is no getting beyond that for me.

In a way, it was worse than any of the other losses. Wide right was bad because it lost you the superbowl, but that kick was never a sure thing for Norwood's range. Music City Miracle...bad, but it was a breakdown on one play. What makes this worse? "13 seconds" first of all, and that lone might be a bigger collapse than either of the other ones above. But it wasn't just the 13 seconds. The D could have made a stop on the possession before and basically won the game....they could have made a stop in overtime. This was the biggest collapse of all of them.

Coin toss means very little to me. Why? 13 seconds over-rides everything.

Seriously? There are problems with this team, and the head coach isn't perfect, but there is no way you make a change now. Even if they get to the playoffs next season and lose to KC again. Just as much of a job a head coach has is not only to coach the games, but to work with the GM in the offseason to make changes to the roster and the gameplan. If you are in the playoffs and within 1 possession of moving on, you don't change coaches.

I totall After a game like this, do you expect everyone to just say how thankful we are for being able to get to this point? Serious? Talk after a game, threads like this....talk after a big win, that is the REASON message boards and social media exist.

You may be on to something. In a game you need to win, you rely on your QB...so tonight it didn't matter if you allowed 27 or 15 points, both would have been a win. Get more playmakers, take more chances. ONE int, ONE strip sack fumble....ONE play in the 4th quarter or Defense would have won you this game. Tonight this wasn't a "bend-but-don't-break" Defense.....this was a "Bend-Snap" defense.