mjd1001

This is the topic that keeps on giving. A few others have said something that I agree with, and it best describes my support for dome/indoor/good weather games. The game is good enough, and complex enough by itself that it doesn't need another variable (weather) added to it....which in most cases that weather takes away from the pure-ness of the game and the pure, high end athleticism we all want to watch. The game has enough strategy in it, enough one and one battles, enough teamwork, enough strategy.....adding bad weather into the mix adds one more variable but often takes away MORE than one variable of the things that make football a great game. Bad weather, as we have seen, and take away MANY different aspects of the game and limit what the players and coaches can do effectively. If you love the game, and you love all that is football, why do you want a 'less pure' game where weather can take away a lot of that? I don't. Those who say football was meant to be played in bad weather, that is just a 'tough guy' way of saying they want less of a pure game.

Throw me behind the lack of a dome and the weather. Will the stand be full anyway? Probably yes. But I can say for sure that if the stadium had a dome on it, the tickets would have gone a lot sooner, for a higher price, and a lot of games in the past decade that weren't sellouts would have been. As as far as the 'real football is played outdoors' thing? Not to me. The game is great as it is, there are so many complexities to the game without adding in weather. Throw in weather and that is one outside factor added that can take away SO many of the pure aspects of the game. The game is good enough as is in perfect conditions, I want to see the players play the purest form of the game between the lines without needing anything else impacting the game to take away from that.

Me too, whether someone is a Bills fan or not. I guess it is entertainment, but also guys like Stephen A. Smith....awful. I can UNDERSTAND if someone likes hearing that for entertainment, but it has a shelf life. As you have said, it is exhausting.

I pretty much agree. Is he perfect? Nope. Does he make some very noticable mistakes? Yes. But how is his overall game? I think for as many plays he makes that are bad, he makes just as many plays that a typical linebacker might not make because they would be 1/2 step slower. I'm going to trust management on this one. None of us really know how valuable he is as the guy who makes the calls and adjustments in his position, or on film just how many plays he DOES make that other players wouldn't. If management wants to resign him as a critical member of this D-unit, so be it. I'm not going to say he is awful and don't resign him because of a handful of plays he doesn't make, when he very well could be making or setting up 2 to 3 times as many as that because of his ability or his calls....and there is no way we can ever know that.

I always liked more games. I'd be good if they eventually go to 18. The ONLY thing I don't like is I kinda wish the playoffs would be starting right around new years weekend. Minor issue though, but I can't think of a problem with 17 or 18 games.

Earliest game possible for 2 reasons: -Watch the Bills game, then enjoy the rest of the games on the weekend without thinking of the bills game -Get the earliest timeslot, so you have the MOST time after the game for rest leading up to the next game.

Not a fan of lotteries, certainly not for the NFL. If a team tanks for the first overall pick, so be it...normally they would have to strip their roster so bare it would take a while to recover.

2 points: -Some of us have said this before, but it is going to take years....like 3-4 years...of middling-to-good at best Patriot teams for the fan base to even start to not have that 'entitled' sense to them. Took a while here in Buffalo after the mid 1990's -No matter how bad the officiating, I really don't like hearing when people use it as a reason/excuse for a loss. Even when it impacts the bills, the first guy that calls in on WGR that brings it up gets me to do the 'here we go again' eye roll in the car 5 seconds into the call. BUT, when Patriots fans do it, It seems just so much worse. I know on Twitter, Officiating was brought up by a lot of Patriots fans as something that 'screwed them' yesterday.

As others have said, and I have said many times, the enjoyment we get out of sports is primarily tied to our expectations, for many of us. 2 things give us enjoyment in sports. 1.) winning the championship. 2.) exceeding expectations. Do one of those 2 things, overall the season will be good. Fail to do either of those, it will not be fun for many. The problem with having 'championship or bust' expectations is....it assures many that overall the season will be more frustration than fun.

This is the kind of B.S. that takes the fun out of sports for me. I know, it is 'fun' when your team is on the other side of it. just not for me. I just want to enjoy the games, enjoy the discussion....when people start acting like totall A-*oles like this....and I don't even care if it was coming from the Buffalo side of things...for me it is a turn off.

I guess it means more games, but isn't a large point of the testing to catch people who AREN'T showing symptoms yet have it so they don't spread it to others?

Allen is easy to say as recent memory is usually the most vivid, so I would go with him. I don't know why but I just don't have the draw to Kelly that most bills fans do. As a teenage I had season tickets from the time he got here all the way through the superbowl years. Wouldn't miss a game, loved the Bills. Yet when I think about that Bills offense, I think first of Thurman, 2nd of the no-huddle scheme, and Kelly comes in after that along with Reed. I don't have a dislike for Kelly, not at all, but I thought the Bills success was more of Kelly being an very-good-to-excellent QB and a 'good fit' rather than him being super elite.

I personally don't really care about whether his name is up there or not, or in the HOF. I'm just not really a person that enjoys the Hall of Fame, or cares much about seeing or hearing about the 'legends of the game' or even the 'Bills legends'. Personally, I think too much is made of the HOF and retired jerseys and names and numbers on the wall or rafters. If I follow a sport, for me it is just about talking about the previous game and looking forward to the next game. Not much more.

I don't care what the 'advanced stats' say, this OL is AWFUUUUUUUUUUUULLLL.

If Allen is worth his contract, he will at least keep the Bills in this.

For sure they were not good to great at pass blocking. Allen covered up for a lot of their lack of talent there. Average, maybe, but there were dozens and dozens and dozens (it not more) plays were pass protection broke down and Allen saved them.

This has been covered over and over but this is a new thread to me so here goes: Its the OL. Is every other single position on the team perfect? No, but the OL is the issue on this team. They can't run block at all. I truly do not think the RBs aren't good enough, other than an occasional missed read (which happens to just bout all RBs), they are fine. The OL just is awful at run blocking. They were bad last year and might be even worse this year. And as far as pass blocking, they are average-to-below average there. Josh Allen and his mobility save this line from looking bad in pass protection. But watch most games...more often than not by the time he takes a 3 or 5 set drop, he already has to pay attention to where the pressure is coming from. If this OL was average-to-good so many other problems on this team would either go away or we wouldn't notice them.

Watching a few of their games, and of course reading the boxscores and articles....I'm OK with saying the Dolphins are a legit mid-tier team now. They have an easy game coming up against the Jets (should get them another win) and then the game against the Saints. They beat both the Jets and the Saints, I'll take notice. It doesn't bother me. As a little kid I remember (barely) some Phins/Bills games in the late 70's and of course from the 1980's on...but I never really had that hatred for Miami, I don't really care too much if they are good or not. I want the Bills to beat them when they play that is all. If the Phins are good and somehow make it into the playoffs, good for them.

I watch games like this...or when Pitt plays Cleveland...or Cincy....and I still can't just wish the Bills were in a division with those teams, and not the AFC east. I know, I know, everyone is excited for tomorrows game.....but to me seeing the Stadiums, the uniforms, the fans, the weather, I just wish the Bills were in a Division with Pitt and Cleve and Cincy instead of the Jets pats and phins.

I agree with you but I think I'm a few steps/years ahead of you even. I grew up watching EVERY bills game as a kid. Wouldn't even miss a minute of preseason games if I had the choice. Had season tickets for a decade. I looked forward to and thought about football season daily through most of the year until it arrived. Now? Eh, whatever. I do follow the team a lot, but I get more enjoyment out of the discussion on the message boards than I do watching the game. Did the Bills win? Great! Did they lose? Oh well, maybe next game (or next year) will be better. Today for example, I took a walk with my wife until about 1:30...turned on the TV to watch the game, but before I even saw a play I saw the F1 race was going to start. So I watched the F1 race, only flipping back to the Bills game once very 15 to 20 minutes to see the score. I just have trouble investing in a sport where I have pretty much seen everything. I have seen come from behind wins, I have seen epic collapses in the 4th quarter. I have seen teams/fanbases win the superbowl that never have before and seen their reaction. I've heard WAY too many discussions/arguments about who is the 'best ever' at any position. I have seen dozens of 50+ yard TD runs, one handed catches, bad officiating calls......basically nothing I see on any given sunday is new anymore. And that goes back to one of your original points....the losses and the angst are just not worth it...they are worse (and the reaction of most of the fans of 'your team') are much worse than anything positive gained from the win. Of course many people will disagree, but to me I have gone from the hardest of the hard core Bills fans to someone who just likes to follow the conversation, watch a game if there is NOTHING else to do...and overall I'm happier for it. I probabaly now watch 4-5 Bills games per year from start to end...another 5 or 6 I watch 50% of them while doing other things at the same time, and the rest I just read about after the game when I have something else to do..or something else I want to watch.

I agree totally. I know the 'inflation calculator' might not be a direct correlation to the cost of building a stadium, but really, these are getting out of hand. You know the rabit hole I start going down when thinking about all this is....to play the game the team needs a grass (or artificial turf field) of about 1.5 acres. That is what they play on. Practice facilities, workout areas, offices...they are usually all separate from the stadium. The Stadium is for the game. For the 95%+ of those who watch football over television, the $Billion dollar stadium isn't needed, just the 1.5 Acres. Now I know that isn't how things work, but do we really need to spend $1.5 Billion dollars for that concrete and steel structure around the field that services the 60k-90k people that show up? There really isn't a way anymore to do it for CONSIDERABLY less?

As of now I still think the Titans are the team the Bills have to worry about the most for that 1st round bye. The Bills have to finish with a better record than the Titans obviously because of the Tie breaker...But other than the Rams, I think they should/will be favored to win every other game on their schedule, even without Henry. That of course doesn't mean they wont slip up and lose a game or two in there, but the Titans still worry me for home field in the AFC.

The could potentiall win their next 4 games and come into the Bills game at 8-4. They SHOULD win 2 or maybe 3 of them and come in 6-6 or 7-5. I'm still not concerned about them. To me they are just another 'in the hunt' team. If they Beat Buffalo and come out of that matchup leading the division, that is when I'll be concerned.

If the only thing that mattered about being a sports fan was wins and losses...then there would be no need for a message forum like this. Some of us LIKE talking more in depth about what we saw, what worked, what didn't work, what can be improved on. There are many of us who think sports are a bit deeper than just the scoreboard and we like to discuss these issues. You know what else is 'so predictable'? someone like you complaining about the things people talk about on this forum after a win.

I'm not saying he was the problem, I'm saying there were a handful of plays where he could have made a better decision that may have been enough to win the game for the Bills. Everything isn't black and white...except I guess on this forum.