Mojo44

What was the topic of this thread again?

To me it’s a red flag but it’s not a dealbreaker. But it is one reason, among several, but he’s not at the top of my list.

It’s a truism!

There is no position on any team sport played on this planet that is even close to being as important as the quarterback is to football. The closest, maybe, and it’s not even that close, is the starting pitcher in baseball. But they change every game and get relieved every game. So, I guess what I’m saying is, I agree with you.

I completely agree with what you say here. The problem is if the bills draft him at 12 or, more to the point, use draft picks to move up and get him, even ending up in the middle equates to his being a bust. It’s amazing to read the wide range of predictions about this guy from all of the “experts“. “Polarizing“ is indeed the term to use with regard to him. But, As a bills fan trusting the process, if we get him I’ll be OK with it.

If I started a thread about every bad feeling I have about the Bills and the 2018 draft.........

Actually, a score of 20 is average. It equates to a full-scale IQ score of 100. So everyone but Jackson is above average on this intelligence screening test.

Sorry, but height is very important when it comes to playing quarterback in today’s NFL. That is just the way it is. Just like you can’t teach speed. You can’t teach height. It is a factor that absolutely needs to be considered along with every other measurable. It doesn’t mean he won’t be a successful quarterback. But a short stature works against him. Remember, he won’t be playing at Oklahoma anymore against lousy big 12 defenses. So, no, the issue of height in an NFL quarterback is not overrated.

The same is absolutely the case for Mayfield but everyone seems to love him!The same is absolutely the case for Mayfield but everyone seems to love him!

Interesting, the last commentator seemed to suggest that the bills may not take a quarterback at all in the first round! This just doesn’t seem right given all the lead up to this point. However, it’s not implausible. Myself-Full disclosure here-I don’t have a clue as to what they are going to do. I lean towards standing pat and taking the best quarterback they can at number 12. But, if they trade up to get a quarterback, I’m behind it!

And there’s only a50-50 chance of that.

The quarterback situation in this year’s draft is insane. However, I find the OP ‘s prediction to be rather improbable given all the information that’s floating out there about these quarterbacks. If the Browns take Darnold the Jets will likely take Rosen.His history of concussions is a non-issue. They are healed. Concussions do that when you give them time. To me the whole issue with his “attitude” is overblown. If somehow the bills got him I would be quite happy. Although I’d rather they not blow all their draft picks on moving up and yesterday at 12 and see who they get. If Allen falls to us at 12 great.But I would be happy with Rudolf or Jackson. To me, Mayfield is the biggest risk in this draft. He is short, and please don’t cherry pick Brees or Wilson, he is not either of those guys. Plus he is a pure system quarterback who routinely Played against absolutely horrible big 12 defenses, as did Rudolph by the way. Also, Mayfield is the one to be concerned about his “attitude.“ It’s one thing to be cocky. It’s another thing to be an A-hole. I really hope the bills do not get him. Way too much of a risk in my opinion for many reasons! Between Mayfield and Allen, I would take Allen in a heartbeat.

I didn’t even know who this quarterback was until I googled him. His numbers are pedestrian at best. In my opinion Peterman is a better prospect than him.

No different then Mayfield at Oklahoma.

I do agree with this approach. I’ve actually seen some mock drafts where Mayfield falls to us at 12. Awesome if it happens but it seems quite improbable. I wish there was an emoji of an exploding head. That’s how I’m starting to feel with all this quarterback/draft tension. I keep telling myself I’m not even going to check in on it today. Yeah, right!

No, he just sucked real bad. The only quarterback statistic that matters is wins. The bills made the playoffs in spite of him. What was it, for the last five games he couldn’t even engineer a touchdown in the last quarter?No, he just sucked real bad. The only quarterback statistic that matters is wins. The bills made the playoffs in spite of him. What was it, for the last five games he couldn’t even engineer a touchdown in the last quarter. I can’t believe that there is still a lingering narrative that Taylor was anything but horrible.

Why not, they actually traded for Taylor!

Robo QB

In four games he completed 86 out of 133 passes for a 64.7 completion percentage. He threw for 920 yards in those games. He threw six touchdowns and two interceptions. His quarterback reading was 93.6. So I ask you: In what universe does Taylor ever put up those numbers? This may not be a lot of data. But what is there is impressive.

Those are some nice photos but it’s not convincing at all in terms of my argument. Posting those photos in no way shape or form proves that one of the “Top four” quarterbacks we’re going to play that well. Your photos don’t prove anything at all! Sorry, nice try but it’s a miss. However I do respect your opinion. And I will say this. If the bills trade up and get one of those quarterbacks and he ends up being great I will be very pleased and I will admit that I was wrong for rendering this opinion. Until then, that’s how I feel. Too risky to blow all of that draft capital on one of these guys. And just to add to my point, remember that we already have a quarterback on the roster who may be that guy. And the bills may believe this. I realize and except that this is all opinion however there is one thing that I will guarantee you: The bills did not bring on AJ to be a “bridge” quarterback. That is absolutely nonsense! He does not fit that description. In my opinion compared to the quarterbacks in the draft he is our best shot. It’s limited but it leastThe bills did not bring on AJ to be a “bridge” quarterback. That is absolutely nonsense! He does not fit that description. In my opinion compared to the quarterbacks in the draft he is our best shot. It’s limited but at least he has some NFL Pedegree. A true “bridge“ quarterback would be someone like McNown Who knew he was just here for year to groom our new quarterback. That’s not why the bills brought in AJ. That’s not why AJ came here. Watch out for him.

I’ll respond to the OP with a counter challenge: Convince me that the Bills should use up all of their impressive draft capital for one of the top for quarterbacks when there is no compelling reason whatsoever that they are sure things. We are not talking about Manning or Luck here. So many posters on this site think one of the four are sure thing Hall of Famer’s. Not even close! The team is in such a great position right now to both get their quarterback and fill up many needs with top level players. ......So convince me that they should blow all of their draft picks on one of these four very risky propositions.

It’s not drunkenness. It’s out right common sense. None of these top for quarterbacks are sure things. Rosian and Darnold Calm the closest but they are not that close. Personally, I do not get all of the Mayfield love. He is a short system quarterback who played in a conference that didn’t play any defense. He is the biggest risk of all. Not to mention his personality issues. For the bills currently and for their future standing pat where they are is their best tact.

More precisely, the off-season is about getting a quarterback.More precisely, the off-season is about getting a quarterback.

I’ve been a clinical psychologist for nearly 40 years and I have given, at least, over 1000 intelligence test. I’ve never given the Wonderlic because it is used primarily in industrial/organizational psychology. However, Wonderlic scores do correlate highly with more comprehensive IQ testing which is why it is used for personal decisions. So it makes sense that the NFL uses it. It also can be administered in groups which is very efficient. A Score of 20 on the Wonderlic equates to a score of 100 on more comprehensive IQ test like the Wechsler which is average. If Kelly got a score of 15 that would equate to “low average” intelligence which is interesting given his career. My guess is the NFL uses it just as a weeding out device. Although I do wonder how low the score goes before a red flag pops up.

This is the most cogent and sane response I have read scanning various threads since the Jets made the trade. The sky is not falling! I repeat, the sky is not falling! Every one of the “top four” quarterbacks have significant flaws. None of them are a sure thing à la Andrew luck. In particular I really don’t get all of this love for Mayfield. A pure system quarterback out of a conference that doesn’t play defense. I would take Allen over him if it was between those two. But of the bills really feel like they need to get a quarterback in the first round I would be quite content with either Jackson or rude off. There’s one thing I can guarantee you, the Bills Didn’t get AJ to be a “bridge”