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All good reason why expectations should be high for this group. #5 is probably the biggest one for me. With the improvements in the line and opponents having to respect our receivers I have to believe that the RBs will be a lot more effective this year. Time consuming drives = less snaps for our D. Wish it was football time already!!

Brian Cox was a total d!#K though. He'd come out flipping everyone off and yelling crap at the fans. He fostered the relationship he had with the Bills fans.

I can now say that I totally agree with you. Last season however if someone took a cheap shot on Gronk and he suffered a concussion I'd probably have cheered. Still salty with what he did to Tre. Now that Gronk has retired I'm not going to cheer an injury

I thought the comment that Allen could be top 5 on next years list was interesting.

I really didn't like him initially but then realized that was more about his dad than about him. He's really good at getting players to open up in interviews.

Yeah I'm not sure what they'll do. My only point was that I'd downgrade Roberts from probably to having to fight for his roster spot. He's a really good return guy, I get that but that may not be enough.

I know he's a return specialist, but I can't seen them giving up a wr spot without some serious thought if he doesn't offer more. WR is where they are going to have some really difficult decisions. Such a change from last year having so many options.

I don't think that Andre Roberts a probable. Should be a red. Sills and Duke Williams have as good a chance as him to make the team.

For the reasons @corta765 said plus we play the Dolphins twice. We're categorizing based on teams on paper, it will all change when the pads go on but on paper the Dolphins will be terrible.

Duke Williams is a low risk gamble. There's plenty of video out there that proves that he can play. Personally I'm really happy we got him when we did. There are lots of players who've struggled and had that moment of clarity that's let them turn their lives around. Chris Carter is a classic example. The fact that the guy knows his previous behavior has hurt him and that chances are precious so not to be wasted. I'm confident that he'll make the team and be a contributor.

I didn't read it that way. It's also a way that you can temper expectations to reduce the calls for trading Shady etc.. Plus if the player works out you can then say I saw something that others felt was too risky. I wasn't overly thrilled when the pick was called, but to be honest I knew nothing about the kid. I was jonesing big time for Bryce Love as our RB pickup. But after watching some tape on the guy I really like it. The kid has moves and has an ability to make cuts that might be special. He's has a ton of carries and makes people miss, there's not many examples of him taking a lot of big hits. Beane knows what he has.

Rosen was only traded because the new coach wanted Murray. If Murray wasn't in the draft then Rosen does not get traded. I would argue that Rosen had better receivers, running back. Hard to judge the OLs as Allen's legs probably save our guys from some really horrible stats. My point is that I've heard so much about the bad situation Rosen was placed in but all I hear is Allen's completion %. I'm a little jaded by it.

Just two examples. There is a ton of people who readily make excuses for Josh Rosen but all you hear about Allen is completion % and he runs too much. "Rosen was placed in a situation that no quarterback would have succeeded in — not even Murray. Offensive coordinator Mike McCoy was fired midseason, the offensive line ranked among the worst in the league and the receiving corps struggled." https://cardswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/06/nfl-offseason-az-arizona-cardinals-josh-rosen/

You are 100% on the money with your two points. I think it'll be 6@WR and the 6th will be Duke Williams or Sills (but probably Williams) I think DA may be convinced to retire as a pathway to coaching. He has a chance to make a name for himself working with Allen.

My point is that you did acknowledged that Ben had much better players around him, future HOFers to be precise. However in your comment you then dismissed that and go into a direct comparison of their statistics (excluding Josh Allen's run game). This reminds me of that old game show where you are given a fixed amount of time in a store to go grab as much as you can in 60 seconds, except in this case your opponent gets to bring his two buddies with him to help. If the OP is going to use stats then the basis of how they are calculated should be comparable. A fairer and more accurate comparison might be David Carr's first year in Houston.

This is the one thing that confounds me. "Sure he may have had a better roster to work with but..." Why do poeple give Josh Rosen a pass in Arizona but not Josh Allen. How many games did we win because of Josh Allen despite the horrible OL and below average receiving corp.

That's the article I linked in an earlier post. I was pointing out how all the other people selected to that team for the ages are HOFers or sure picks to be when they become eligible. How can a guy who is that highly regarded the only guy on the list that isn't worthy. He deserves a golden jacket.

I loved how FA and the draft played out. Both our OL and DL will be solid this year. Looking forward to a resurgence of the running game. I do understand people's concern about the WR position, but in my eyes they've done enough to improve things significantly from last year. We have Brown and Foster to stretch the field. Zay and Beasley for intermediate routes. I honestly Duke Williams will be a great addition and knows how to get those contested balls. The screen pass and dump offs will be there because every D we face will be watching out for #17 from taking off with his feet. I'm especially optimistic after re-listening to the several videos of people taking about Josh pre the 2018 draft. People like Trent Dilfer going on about how they've never seen anyone with the combination of skills that he has. The release, the intelligence, the arm strength etc no one that they've ever measured has them. They all say he's raw but that he could develop into something really special. The way he rounded out the season last year makes me believe that as well.

A little reading to help with your Bills education. Pay attention to the other players they've selected for their team for the ages. Everyone on that list is either a current or future HOFer https://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/08/29/team-for-the-ages-steve-tasker/aoj8sc8/

Just so you know, how he played those "only a few plays a game" changed the outcome of many games for the SB teams. Coaches like Parcells have often said that he was the only special teams guy that they ever game planned for. Simply put the Bills do not make it to 4 SBs in a row without Steve Tasker.

Wow, What happened to you to make you so cynical. Oh wait I see you live in Lehi UT. I'd be angry at the world too ?

Agree with you completely, this year is definitely different from other years past. This years draft grade will come down to how the guys we drafted perform. ?

We have't had a strategic approach like this since Polian was building the Super Bowl teams. Everything since then has been a reaction/gut feeling and over meddling owner. Every move here is calculated. Your question about what if and firing if we don't do x is exactly the mindset that led us to the playoff drought. Sit back and relax and watch this team form into a legitimate contender.

I was with you 1000% until you said this. The competition thing you are talking about is exactly what they're setting up. Allen is the only exception until they lose confidence in him and bring in someone they feel can be a franchise level guy. The QB competition is for the backup role as others previously stated.