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I have only seen Winston on TV.....looks like another Cam Newton to me.

Ahhhhh...its not NOV yet........but, tomorrow, OK!

It will be interesting to see Orton return to Denver on December 7......and we know Kyle will be MOTIVATED to show his stuff that day!!!!

My fear is the Bills try to bring on EJ to fast again. I see no reason Orton can't play 3-5 seasons more for the Bills......EJ may be a free agent before we let Orton retire again. Of course, all this is predicated on Orton and the bills becoming winners, finally.

Barron to Rams per ESPN

Actually, the bills are off this week after watching film today. So, only a standard week of practice before the KC game. Of course, the coaches will be working, and getting game plan ready. Might even be working the Miami game plan.....as they will only have 4 days to prepare for that baby. If I were HC, I would be doing that as well. Prep time is critical, get your head in the right place and the good game plan will follow.

Setting aside the Jets game, Hackett has failed to deliver the advertise run game. Last year, lots of yards, but yds per carry was not great. finished high in rushing because they ran so much, not because they were great at it. run game is even worse this year.......especially without the #1,2 backs.....The recent successes of the offense fall on finally having a pro QB. The bills o is still in the bottom third of the league.........So, I say, Hackett takes a fail......now, since we are talking coaches, although things have not been as agreious as last year, I am still no fan of Crossman.....other than the kicking game....I have not seen great plays....on a regular basis. To many holding penalities.....has to be coaching, can't be that many dumb guys on the Bills. So, keep the rest, let the other two gracefully move on....unless , of course, Marrone wants to pull a Wade like move, throw his body in the road in front of these two guys......(Wade protected Ronnie White, I think it was, and Ralph fired them both, then)

Ahhhh.....I haven't seen that step....

The Bills won ugly last week, and if they can't put away a 1-6 team....then there is not really much hope. I do think its a tough game in NY, but, you have to win where you can and should. A win ahead of the bye week would set the team up for a playoff run..... The injury situation is, of course, a concern. I am happy to see real talent on the roster to step in with the loss of our major talents at rb. And, signing a guy off the street with experience at Dallas for three years, that also OK, as long as he doesn't need to know the offense for a couple of weeks. My bigger concern is at safety, where we are weak if Aaron Williams isn't 100%. They need him this weekend, but, if it means healing through the bye week and being 100% again, do without him.

Uhhhh...what preseason were you watching?

Branch hosed the Bills....just like Orton hosed the Cowboys. Need to have a way to deal with that kind of non professional behavior by players. Branch can play if he is in shape.....I have no complaints about the bills d line play this year, but Branch would have made them even stronger. Wynn and Charles are a bit younger for sure, but not with the pedigree of Branch.

three tight end game plans are a staple around the league upon occasion....but, in the case of the Bills, we don't exactly have the cast at TE to make that offense a credible threat. Chandler is capable to some degree, a B player at TE , say,. Lee Smith is a C- player, at best, and Gragg is a C player as well. So, why are we focused on getting all three of that caliber players on the field, when we have all A and B players at Wide receiver. (OK, we can argue about HOGAN) Seems to me a system has to be designed to use talent at hand, not the system we would like if we had the players. Face it, our TE's are not GronK and Hernandez in their heyday.

You know, the Media are so pro Jets biased, that a win over the Jets is always doubly sweet. I love it when the NY media has to explain how they lost to the upstate Bills.

You can go by the QB's arm, and EJ doesn't have the arm......Orton has the arm.....can throw....like a pro should. I don't like the fact that the Bills picked EJ on intangibles......and failed picking on the ability to pass the ball. I hope the Bills don't waste 5 years on EJ like they did on Losman.......

I found the game announcers commentary on Orton to be insightful. One was a former teammate of Orton's, and he said he didn't recognize the guy on the sideline. Orton has grown up and matured....and is leading a flawed offense with the skills of a veteran. Now, I have been a season ticket holder for 40 years, and have seen them all. I can tell you the number one qualification of an NFL QB is the arm strength and accuracy. EJ doesn't have what it takes, set aside all the other great qualities. I have not seen a professional down the middle throw from EJ in the two years I have watched him...not an NFL ready arm. Orton, on the other hand, is short on running capability/escapability.....but, he can chuck the rock in there, short and long. The stats show it....EJ was missing wide open receivers, and Marrone faced an insurection from the wr's....he had to make the change. I think the Bills were lucky to get Orton, and might end up north of .500 for the first time in many years. Not predicting playoffs here, but saying the right QB is running the ship/ I think we will see Orton for a couple of years...until another QB shows up. (EJ a bust in my view) As for the Fitz comparisons, Orton is less athletic than Fitz, who could scramble pretty well you might recall. but, Orton has a better arm, especially on long throws, and is my preference when selecting between the two veterans.

Yes, and the play(s) where they ran Boobie wide were wasted as well. Hackett doesn't know how to adjust on the fly, off script and he is in trouble. He kept calling the Fredex plays, even when it was Boobie in there. Boobie is downhill all the way, with power. The TV announcers were even onto this strange play calling wit Boobie carrying.

Marrone and Hackett can't get off script at all, shows a lack of depth in knowledge of how to win. When both rb's go down...and you are left with Boobie Dixon running, you don't still call the outside runs. Announcers were chokeing on that call........so was I. Another series, they called two runs and a pass which ended with a sack. Down by 6 and the ball never got in the air. I give Orton credit, he keeps his head, he has been there.......I watched closely at the end, imho, Orton was telling Hackett how to do it. And, our all American LaCross player (Hogan) did make a few plays, but he still isn't a football player......Announcers kept waiting for Chandlers number to get called. Wasn't until the last series.....Hackett doesn't get it/.....proceed until stopped if the rule. Same applies to Watkins...could have been targeted more. He reminds me of Andre Reed some, and happy he is a Bill.

He will fit in on the Jets, then! Must be the Jets realized TJ Graham was not the answer, either.

Goodwin is the second coming of Robert Parish....and we all know how that turned out. Hammy hurt in practice. This kid can't stay healthy, and really doesn't have a career in pro football if he is that brittle. I wonder how long the management will take to realize that Goodwin is a part time player....only physically active part of the time, and not a starter. Of course, everybody in the league understands his speed. Not sure he shouldn't go the same route as TJGraham...likely next preseason. BTW, TJ on the Jets roster last night, didn't do anything.

This is a very professional approach, I would do the same myself. When making this kind of assessment of a major investment, I would bring in at least two different consultants, as a difference of opionion would be informative for the new owners. (did that a couple of times in my corp career when there were a lot of Chips on the table) It always pays off to get varying views......and, this is a little bit unusual....in that the Sabres are also in the consideration when marketing issues are discussed.(like the Illich family in Detroit, Tigers and Red Wings) This board focuses on the football side of things....but the business side will get the same scrutiny, trust me on that. And, the names mentioned may not be that expertise....so stay tuned on possible various reports or multiple consultants. Finally, as much as I value the advice of good consultants.....you have to remember " A consultant tells you what time it is with your own clock" . I would list attribution as that is not my quote, but I don't know who said it......(I think that means listen to your own people also, in addition to what the consultants might advise)

Golson.....has the arm and ND is much better with him in there. I have been very impressed. And, might be 2nd rnd available.....

Winning the next 6 in a row might convince me....

I never cheer for the Jets!

suck it up and come out fighting the next week....nothing else to be done. Just don't put EJ back in there.........I'm begging you......

Sorry, EJ doesn't have the arm.....I have seen enough.