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Corkscrew, fair enough on the Tre White criticism, but I haven’t seen a lot of it here. Most people don’t want him to opt out, but I haven’t read unless missed it him being trashed by TSW. I do appreciate the link and hope he plays, but as cited, it is just a game. I’ve already said my piece on letting him walk. We are a winning team. You don’t lose key players when we haven’t even won a playoff game yet.

Maybe SC, I think he and Beane build their defenses from the back forward which I agree as it holds passing teams to a minimum, and presses on the rush defense. White is almost indispensable. He makes our defense work well. He takes out for the most part the opposing top WR. I agree with some of analysts that top defenses now are built best back moving forward vs. conventional thinking of the front four. We have a good defensive line, but we are excellent because of those safeties and Tre. In no world, is it a good idea to lose arguably the #1 or #2 (for those that think it’s Gilmore) CB in the entire NFL. No amt. of draft picks is worth it. I read what Barley said, about moving from Allen, but I don’t think we are anywhere close to there.

Estro, NOOOO! Not being critical, just he is one of the absolute best CB’s in the league, and just because he wants to maybe opt out, or as Mark Dominik said this morning may be negotiating for an extension now, I don’t think so. He is ours is he plays for the next two years and longer if we tag him. He’ll either play and probably get his big payday in the Spring of 2021, or of he doesn’t in the Spring of 2022, or 2023 if his demands are silly. He’s given no reason to think he’s going scorched earth like Adams, and Adams wanted out no matter what. Why? The Jets are a dumpster fire and we are not.

Hapless, I thought if they test positive, they have to test two more times before returning if the second one is negative. It makes sense if I heard that correctly yesterday on the radio from Dr. Sills. Anyway, thanks for keeping us in the loop.

Nothing has happened yet, and if he wants to opt out, I would be disappointed, but he has a right to do it without criticism. I don’t buy he’s doing this to push a contract extension. He probably if not opting out would get one at the end of this season. They use that 5th year option either as a negotiating ploy for the team, or because they are not sure on the player. They are sure on him so the negotiations would have started in the Spring 2021. He opts out, he waits another year as most teams won’t extend after three years. Jamal Adams didn’t get one and is living on his current contract, just in Seattle. I hope he does play, but am not going to say anything negative about him if he doesn’t.

I don’t care if they do it as the likelihood of them getting hurt is minimal. Remember Rodgers Hail Mary for about 70 yards a couple of years ago. It’s not like he threw out his shoulder. I don’t see it happening until they have fans to pay for attendance and that won’t happen for at least a year if they are trying to raise $ for charity. Unless people are stupid enough to bet on it and give the winnings to charity. Seems very Middle School.

Wait, the Pats have a team. I thought they all opted out.

Just doing the math, if they don’t tear up and redo his contract in two years, it basically is $120 k raise, and just pushed moving $ forward. I think it’s a good decision, and Diggs will be happy, we use our $ while we have it and preemptively handles the expected loss in cap space Next year. Beane is shrewd. I really hope we do extend Beane and McD as soon as we can afford it as they are great for this team and city.

Wow, must have been some interview.

Well White hasn’t opted out yet as far as I know. If he does, Logan Ryan is an option, but as others stated he’s normally a slot person. It’s really a wait and see.

I was just going to say the same thing. If they opt out for personal reasons, they do not acquire a year towards retirement so in Tre’s situation his 4th year would be in 2021 and his 5th year option would be in 2022.

I’m sorry his family’s loss. This is unfortunately going to keep happening. He’s only 62, but he may have had comorbid conditions. We don’t know nor should we know whether he had high blood pressure, diabetes, CAD, etc. That’s his private medical business. It only reaffirms to me to continue being as vigilant as I have been about masks, eating healthy, working out six days a week, not smoking, and only sparingly having alcohol. I’m not prescribing others actions as the CDC and local authorities do enough of that, but just simply controlling what I can to see my daughter someday walk down the aisle with me.

You guys know it’s not free $ and when the cap drops from $210 mil. To $175 mil. Next year if they don’t cut them they have to take this cap space and put it into next year. The Pats will be even more cap strapped next year. Right now they are up to $34 mil., but after the settlements and signing of Newton, they had $8 mil. If these opt outs are not cut next year, that’s $26 mil. On the hook in 2021. Even if they cut all of them, the dead $ will still be there.

Not happening. We have just under $25 mil. In cap space. There should be a -$35 mil. Swing to $175 mil. Next year. We already paid for Butler, Addison, Jefferson, have H. Phillips under contract. We also have to extend some if not all the following, Dawkins, Milano, White if we don’t exercise the 5th year option. Besides, he’s not even close to worth what he wants. As Polian said the other day, he’s a situational player, not an every down and not worth a huge contract. We just purged those kind of contracts with Jettisoning Watkins, Dareus, and so on.

There was someone who made the assertion they cut him among other things as he expected to opt out and Beane cut it off beforehand. That’s most likely not accurate as the $150k opt out for personal, not medical reasons is only a stipend. He has to pay it back next year, and comes out of any 2021 contract, or out of his wallet if he is not picked up. What I didn’t know until Polisario said when interviewed yesterday that the medical opt outs at $350 only $200 k is guaranteed and not needed to pay back. The first $150k is only an advance coming off next year’s contract. Given these points, it’s actually better to be cut and even if Long received the minimum, it is far above what he makes to not play. With the number of persons opting out, which is proportionally higher in lineman, he will get picked up by someone. I really liked the post that broke down the line depth. Good job. I do think he’s versatile enough someone will pick him up as flexibility between guard and center.

House, lovin the Miyagi reference. Thank you Danya San.

The only facts we have on Norman is he payed at a high level under McD’s system, and not when not played to his strengths in Washington. Maybe he lost a step and is a reasonable argument, but not a foregone conclusion. Now he goes back to the system he knows like the back of his hand so this year will determine did he really lose a step or was the shirt show in Washington the problem. None of us know and happy to wait and see. This author doesn’t know anything more than us. Happy to wait and see. I do believe Beane used the cost constraints and available talent to put the best team together. No one can predict who would opt out. You’d think with all of these guys already reporting that part will calm down. I know nothing more than any of you.

Given how much he’s worth, it might be worth it if he can find a way after the pandemic to fleece it for a year and get an ROI. His name will get the recognition and given he’s worth $350 mil., there’s probably very little downside for him.

He was $3.1 mil., but $2.4 if you subtract the $700 k dead cap, so not sure why they take that risk when he could play G or C. We have $22 mil. In cap space right now until Winters contract hits Spotrac. I would have cut other o lineman before him, but we’ll see. I thought he was solid.

88, I did the same thing, and yes, took a shower. I didn’t post though as it is their board, not mine, so not my place to post on their site. I’ve been trying to find if he really is an often injured person, or just misrepresented. I saw last year he had a shoulder injury, and two years before he had a torn abdomen muscle. He played through both as I’ve read and had off season surgeries. In 2018, he played well the whole year. If anything, he looks like a tough guy that is depth for us at Guard. I still think Long is most likely at the beginning of the year going to start as he is solid and knows the scheme from last year.

88, I did the same thing, and yes, took a shower. I didn’t post though as it is their board, not mine, so not my place to post on their site.

Well, by the time the season starts there may be a couple of holdouts, but within a couple of weeks there won’t be fans in any stadiums.

I think once all of them have two negative tests and are cleared, they come back. Good question.

A few years ago, we saw him in the Buffalo airport. We were flying back to Tampa as we go up for a family reunion and then a Bills game every September. He was very gracious and stopped to take a pic with my two sons, and asked them about their sports. He didn’t have to do that, but was very nice. I really appreciated that moment.

I think it’s fluid. Motor most likely gets more yards, and Moss gets more TD’s. Besides the concern on Moss was that knee so using him judiciously makes sense. Keep him for when you need him. Dawkins, thanks for the link. I don’t know why, but when I change to the different personnel groupings, it doesn’t process. I’m sure it’s probably just my WiFi. I would gues the Ravens lead the 13 personnel grouping, but one thing is for sure you said, it’s not the 1 millionth COVID thread or turned into it.