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Super Bowl is much bigger but mvp would definitely change the narrative around Josh being overrated. I’d enjoy that chatter changing.

I think you prefer pedal to the metal there but may be some argument for playing it as a contain type role- not knowing if mahomes could scoot inside or try to escape back. By slowing down he has paths to any direction he tries to escape and was unlikely to run him down otherwise

meh. I’d have to rewatch that but the 4th felt slow developing and lacking viable options. When taking pressure I would’ve liked something a little crisper I think but live was tough to tell

it’s amazing someone sat through the 20 years prior and could type that

what’s the change in risk at his current state?

not enough will understand this one at the same time, any understanding it is too many.

rebuild was never the right phrasing based on how many here use the term. When the expectation is a championship ring, any small step back instead of pushing chips on the table is a rebuild. Even in those years you can be a reasonably good team when you’ve got a Josh Allen.

im not sure if you realize it but all 32 teams have fans that say the same

Fewer tv angles may actually make the game more enjoyable in this regard. im not sure officiating fell off a cliff so much as we can now hyper monitor every detail room for improvement but maybe not as drastic as seems

If it’s that bad he shouldn’t be out there though, right?

yea but he’s employed for like 8 other months a year to develop his decision making tree and become confident in obscure scenarios. I log on a message board in my spare time.

because schoen is coming back here and wants to win - duh

so your defense of him is that they were likely losing either way?

he left his feet to get high enough it’s not like he aimed chest and the receiver unexpectedly came down it was textbook terrible. And not his first. I don’t think he misses time but he should be squarely on the radar for it going forward

Didn’t he have one in September? Any others this season? That’ll be the real tell on how harsh they go

In the same way we look for our own pga tour card after every big drive or putt… he’s got to do it week in and week out. It’s a start. the other half will be the unit too - bad hold today, a tipped kick or two…. it is a big moment. Hopefully a turning point but by itself, it’s still a high risk bunch.

meh. One kick doesn’t wipe a year and a half

yup. even if you think bass is an issue on his own - there are a variety of other issues across the units, plus how bass has been handled which is separate from bass himself

I’ll continue to echo - the only defense of bass would be making a move at STC. at some point the unit has too many issues

counter: you can’t bet on any other injuries second counter: what’s the actual bet, that he gets put into concussion protocol? You know, since medical records are not released and all

I would say you can go by more than that, right? You still have your own logic and reasoning and they you can’t find it.

often these odd numbers are a flat fine that’s seen percentage increases each year

if he heals well he may kick off 2025 week 1 healthy enough to play. the real question is if he gives any discount to get in a building early or if he goes absolute max dollars but maybe even misses a few weeks to get signed

yea, though I’d suspect some portion of those is breece getting short yardage and goal line touches that cook didn’t. Also against stacked boxes with junk quarterbacks. Also in his first games back from injury. Also with Hackett as OC honestly I don’t think the two are far off each other though. To those saying he has no vision and it’s just wide open lanes - we should scheme up some of them for cook I guess.

because we only see highlights and projections of high fantasy draft pick status? I think cook and hall are not widely spaced in this discussion. For 1 game on Sunday I probably take breece but not mad if I get cook. The next few years? I could see going either way depends on defining elite? he’s definitely a tier up from the just solid starters but not some generational talent either.