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that’s as much about opportunity as anything. Mostert is fine enough but he’s not an elite piece in an offense. Scheme and reps padded that number a ton.

and to my point: in your wildest dreams of his potential, you picked a guy with a paycheck between Jerry jeudy and Christian kirk

we passed on paying tons of very good and proven veteran safeties peanuts. Wasn’t a priority, so why spend our most valuable resource on one now? go get a receiver or pass rusher that’s two to three times as costly in free agency

this plus weathering distractions. And ensuring Hackett truly is a coffee runner. it’s all in on one year in jersey but sometimes that works.

add on the same commentary on the kickoff debacle and…. the whole operation was bad is coded “leadership failed”

shakir strikes me as lance moore of saints yesteryear a bit. Both in general skill set and potential usage as a productive WR2-WR3 in am offense with weapons out of the backfield and at TE ideally not the center of attention but super slippery as the non focal point I don’t see him as a kupp but think if held in the right role, with the right offense - he could be super productive. I think this era of nfl makes those guys harder and harder to keep in those successful auxiliary roles though as someone wants to pay them more than you can pay as a role player

If none of the WR at 28 have a 1st round grade - we’ve screwed up by not moving up if picking there you then look to pass rushers and guys that effect the qb no luck there? Have to try to move back no luck there? Maybe an OT or CB? no luck there? May as well trade it for an established guy at a less premium spot since you aren’t saving money anyway. Take the risk out and let someone else get their draft target to put it in perspective- average centers are paid like good kickers. Bass is the 8th ranked kicker and would be a slightly above average paid center (essentially even with Morse now) that’s not a top 40 wide receiver or top 50 edge rusher pay check. could you imagine taking a kicker anywhere near that spot?

You can sign a prowbowl center for less than gabe Davis just received WR isn’t the shiny exciting pick, it’s the financially sound pick.

on that token- I’ve never thought of “close my eyes and think it was the original” as actually being a good cover I mean, cool for a bar band, right? But in an artistic sense it’s so much cooler when someone successfully walks the tightrope of bringing new life to a familiar work. Funny enough, that’s also the fast track to a bad cover too.

though of course is still 3 games in 11 days and the golden goose for the league is fantasy football so let’s further jack up the late season experience

totally fair but even in a bizarre clumsy wording - it’s a really strange way to describe the entrenched franchise qb. He’d really have to walk it back drastically and immediately for it not to be off putting and that it even slipped would be strange

I woke up this morning and still can’t fathom saying we’re looking for Josh to become the face of the franchise it might be stranger than the 9/11 speech

He’s a good player, but not a star. at his price, and in Miami - I can’t say I think that he will be the best value possible. You could likely get similar production a bit cheaper and without it being yet another guy in the clubs as heavily as he would be

I’ll say at this point it should be “Josh is a generational talent and the cornerstone of our club” and not “looking to be the face of the franchise”

I don’t think he’s great but better than mason Rudolph or Pickett

I don’t think we took one back but I didn’t think we took much of one forward last year either. snag a WR, safety, and DE between rd1-2, and a last vet free agent and we may even be a step forward of last year. the problem being I think the bengals, chargers, possibly jets, and even if Wilson is passable the Steelers… could all be massive steps forward from last year. And that is not good for us. Last year I was saying we could be anywhere from 2-6 in the conference and I’m nervous that not as many breaks will land in our favor. We will see.

heck, Josh defies all the draft rules in existence, right? But at some point you have to worry if a guy can’t get space against lesser talent than how will he in the pros? There can be explanations or anomalies But…. Generally speaking

It’s an interesting discussion- a third next year at this crossroads in free agency can be like essentially trading an expected comp pick instead of signing a guy and losing that comp pick. With the right team and right framing it’s very low compensation. im curious to see the contract and if that’s particularly punishing or if the league doesn’t view Snead the way Buffalo fans do after the diggs issues

it could just be how they split up the travel routing for different guys this week and not a sign of a huge priority

minor addition, it may not have even been implied by anyone along the way either- as a devils advocate “he’s good for it” could’ve been “this dudes friend would pay 4.5M before risking rumors of him having 4.5M in gambling debt that could ruin his 9 figure contract so we will be good”

Put another way… he wasn’t motivated enough but will now try harder and learn from a guy that flamed out spectacularly due to items including (but not limited to) inability to relate to teammates and oversized ego?

Or are you just hyper focused on the headlines?

yea, Hyde had a ton of very good tape

you don’t know the exact but I know you know it isn’t a lot

yup - if they can avoid injury or distraction, they have a lot of sheer talent in the building. That’s a huge if for them though, given the team they assembled. they could be a Super Bowl contender or 3rd in their division and eliminated by early December really easily