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Because those things are only partially related? landry was likely gone and a think a good chance of suh too— so you start filling that hole and a guy like Quinn is a very good player and didn’t cost high picks (read: cheap talent). You can still add another vet to help the offense and come out in a similar spot financially and still have the first two days of your draft in tact and didn’t have to pay a monster signing bonus to a pass rusher im not saying it’s great but I’m not going to pretend it’s awful either The dolphins have no long term commitment to him and didn’t sink a high pick into it. If they gave him a fat signing bonus - sure, some risk. As is- not terribly risky.

Yea but before that he had 40 sacks over 3 years sooooo hes a very good player.

Hes an absolute prototype for 43 DE. Dude checked every box and then some coming out. Blew my mind how worried people were with the final year issue in college

But why not simply have that conversation in person first instead of publicly online?

Changing body type or skill set is different than this though. what do defenses suddenly start doing on 4th down?

I was about to guess you went there but then remembered you are just a normal sized midget- certainly not the tallest.

In one offseason we released, traded or didn’t resign a solid 4 years of 1st/2nd round draft picks sammy (x2), dareus, ej, Gilmore kujo, Darby, Ragland, woods, aaron Williams I’m not arguing you keep all of them but it’s a truly astonishing volume when put into context and it’s not all busts by any means

Yup. When you gut a roster of almost every day 1 and day 2 pick for a 5+ year run in one offseason, it becomes that type of process. If we don’t intend to move up and NAIL the draft it could be expedited but agreed fully

I don’t think it’ll be huge signings but some mid tier guys

We will see - long way to go before getting one this year for Gaines

That, but are also safer.

They consider coming here because they are thevstarter until unseated and we may not get that rookie.

And this is why you don’t sprint to cut taylor, create 10m in dead money and give out a contract like this to another mediocre qb.

Frankly, I’m down to do a guy like ivory AND a day 2 rookie with the prospect of Tyrod and a rookie qb. Lets have a strong and diverse group of backs that can succeed over the next couple years if this is who we are

Signing mario wasn’t bad... but really I think transitioning to having a real GM instead of the Marv/Brandon/littman/committee was the biggest. We are now a .500 club that functions at a basic Nfl level. We don’t stand out good or bad organizationally. money is the biggest. Scheme fit and opportunity to shine next comfort in the city and such behind there and means different things to different players. 1) money 2) future money 3) everything else. when we were a mess we weren’t giving out #1 and were jeopardizing #2... and were bad with #3 but were already far behind in the game — but we’ve generally been better about that for awhile.

And in that analogy a day 3 pick is akin to a rock or a stick. If we are giving up massive compensation and that tiny value is the dealbreaker and we can’t roll in a slightly higher pick, a next year pick, player, extra late round picks, etc.... we weren’t winning the fight to begin with

If we are unable to replace a 4th rounder in a compensation package - we don’t deserve the qb. Its like saying we cant buy a new car because we went out for lunch last week. Maybe we skip some other minor expense and don’t buy coffee today but it shouldn’t effect the MAJOR commitments

I think an early day three pick would be great here. Receivers are costly on the open market and unreliable late in the draft. To get a guy with his ability on rookie pay scale is a huge win for a team that absolutely gutted the roster of cheap talent. You are right - we shouldn’t sign anyone til May

An incredibly fair question

I would think maybe there was a reason we just don’t know about that was keeping him away unless someone made an offer he couldn’t refuse.

Its almost as if we can hire a qb coach

Riddle me this rush — why don’t we just roll with QBs that don’t intentionally sabotage each other but are highly competitive and then go ahead and hire a great qb coach? seems like a more straightforward plan than signing a qb and paying him to coach up the rookie

Makes more sense than 2-3 years of Bradford at a big deal, Tyrods dead money on top and a rookie unless you are getting something for Tyrod— the 1 year contract and lack of dead money put him ahead the other guys that aren’t much better (if at all)

It really isn’t that big of a financial hit. We are talking a range of 2-6m per year and a 4 year deal. In a projected 178m cap.... thats not substantial. The opportunity cost sucks. And no one is hitting their top three picks more often than not. Hitting all three is a banner year not the expectation

It wasn’t beanes, and no one is consistently hitting 3 of 3. Otherwise, sure. if you hit 3 of 3 a couple of times (especially with a qb) you immediately shoot to Super Bowl favorite