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likewise, araiza says he left the house and will be able to prove that. and I’d point out I don’t think it was plural (witness not witnesses) putting him in the room, nor am I sure that has been consistent in tellings. we will see when the speculation goes fully on record though.

so in the video in question they asked her what her body count was and she answered “like 20 even though I’m only 18” (roughly, without going back to check the quote) im only 10-15 years removed from the setting and will say the body count stuff was not big in my time… but someone saying trying to show off that they could clear some dumb threshold despite only being 18 wouldn’t have stood out as super strange. ive got news: it happened then too.

two distinct versions of the conversation here: do you think he committed a crime do you think he will be found guilty to the first, I’m not sure and am in no rush to decide. I have some initial gut reactions but far fro certain. to the second, I’d be really surprised if he was found guilty

hes going to weigh his options before deciding is roughly the opposite of news, right?

A random guy hearing rumors of potential. awesome thread. Good work.

cruel irony here….

dangerous assumption as cooperating with the police is not always in the persons best interest even if not a part of the main accusation.

gregg Brandon may be too cursed a name to be in the organization.

from Timmy?!? I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.

im normally one to point out how good things are in the grand scheme- but in many markets crime is not in a great spot right now.

or in this situation he says the had sex earlier and he was nowhere near the seen of the gang rape. It would show his dna but absent a witness putting him there, he could be a much tougher prosecution than the others who have dna found.

her selling her story and him settling and getting to play probably don’t coexist in a single timeline.

so you aren’t hanging your assessment of his participation in the second set of events heavily on it being “very odd” to hook up with her earlier and then leave?

you called it out as proof he probably led her to a gang rape. So I’d say you focused on it as a pretty key point and I’m just questioning that as the item that ties the whole night together.

the weird part in the “claims he hooked up with a stranger outside at a party and then left” was that he left?

did you just qualify giving a beer as “very bad things”?

there seems to a slight undertone of not wanting to suddenly be the daily face of this from Sean

Just making things up now. he can’t be punished for college occurrences in the nfl.

you can’t suspend him per the CBA

Agreed.

I’ll say that’s it on him

agreed. araiza gets dicey if he previously engaged in intercourse with her though. the other guys may be much less able to defend themselves

they can cut him cause they feel like it.

they do not. Because there is zero consequence for doing whatever they want and cutting him today. Beane could get drunk and cut 4 guys for looking at him funny at practice today.

Nope. the only differentiator would be if they later want to go after his inconsequential signing bonus.