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Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
honestly, my post was just saying the news being broken didn’t really lend much insight. Whether or not they are planning to move on - haack is gone, they need some options in play whether araiza gets indicted or blows out an ACL. obviously there’s high risk in his current situation and a good chance they will move on but even if they are all in with him you must do this -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
would be reckless not to have a plan b in place even if they currently believe the guy -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
disagree. Coach very directly said they are working through it less than 24 hours ago. now they are doing that. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
I said it about 40 pages back but I do think this singular thread may be a disservice to the topic. Updates and facts get buried. It creates a weird vacuum here. Either having the first post as a news update post, and mods pinning a post with real news that is updated periodically may be helpful. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
Not possible as the offense happened in college is what’s been shared thus far -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
a timeline.. provided instantly… to gratify my needs. im guessing you’ll get updates at some point. It might not be RIGHT NOW. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
if/when the time comes- strap on the helmet, lace up the shoes and get to work. I doubt there will be much “so anybody check out the news today!?!?” chatter. probably real quiet for a bit. A “hey, I don’t know what you are going through but let me know if you need anything” and then try to go about it as normal pretty quickly. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
Yup. Until there is more to share, stick to less, right? I can chat with y’all on here about it, but I am not part of the process and it’s not for me to be included step by step. They will gather and at some point make a commitment to a path forward. At that time we can seek answers for the decision made. It’s not a race to be first, but instead to get it right. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
Bingo. we are used to instant gratification. They don’t need to jerk their knee here. They don’t owe me a timeline while they are still in the active development of this. Not that long ago we’d get once daily updates and the team would be able to actually manage the situation without me demanding to be a part of the experience too. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
I was subtly ribbing you a little with that, honestly. We had already had the news, and the follow up explaining that shared here from sal -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
hint: reporters would just say rosters are locked at 8am this morning, not give breaking news when the daily roster is confirmed late afternoon. the chiefs cut 5 guys today. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
At some point there will be questions that come due. They will owe a little bit of insight. the idea that they must immediately pull the curtain back by end of day today is not a real thing, and is a bit entitled from a lot of folks. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
there’s a daily roster they all have access to. He’s on it. That’s all. He wasn’t on the nfl transaction report today. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
he can’t be suspended for this -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
I bet we get one of these posted from every Buffalo journalist. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
I’ll echo an earlier post that this incident is a real challenge for headlines/graphics and the social media age news reporting/consumption. There are just enough layers to the accusations that a 6 word headline can’t be enough to frame it fairly -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
I think you’d be shocked what teams know and we don’t on some of these guys. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
those would be the two options if he’s not at practice -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
In our age of instant gratification it’s not always popular, but sometimes you have to let the story come to you. before saying things on the record. im guessing bills investigators and strategists are having many meetings today to either review new content or reconfirm old beliefs they had -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
If you think that highly of their judgement, you may pause to think they believe his involvement actually is at the lower end of the possibilities, and that they have access to more than you or I do. just another consideration of how you can frame things all sorts of ways. -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
you very clearly hire both a civil and criminal and let them handle their sides while sharing info -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
yea this thread is near worthless for the story at this point -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
for how long? Less than 5 minutes? -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
If he’s not even on the team what hook are the on and how would it effect them after about 5 minutes? -
Matt Araiza accused of rape, served with a lawsuit.
NoSaint replied to bill8164's topic in Off the Wall
a fair consideration that it may have been a liability issue and not purely moral or PR