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Josh trusts Gabe Davis too but he still has inexcusable drops and passes thrown to him end up intercepted or on the ground too often.

Edmunds was supposed to be the one doing Urlacher things.

Meh.......sure there were a few people who thought they'd seen all they needed to see of Bernard even though he'd hardly played...... But the larger takeaway is how wrong SO MANY people were in excusing Tremaine Edmunds for never making plays. This defense is designed to create opportunities for the MLB to make plays. It was always correct to be critical of Edmunds for the lack of instinctiveness and the subsequent, near-complete lack of game changing plays for 5 years.

Yeah free agency has changed it for sure...........but what has changed more recently is that top HS players travel and play with fellow top HS players from all over the country now. You can be from Miami and play on a flag team with guys from CA and Illinois and Texas etc.. There is A LOT more fraternization amongst pro-caliber players at a younger age. I don't think some of these kids even attend actual HS classes any more. They play for their team on Friday night and then Saturday afternoon they can be seen 2,000 miles from home attending the game of some school they are *maybe* considering. And in the offseason it's one U of Georgia/Alabama/Texas pool party after another these guys are attending together. They simply know each other a lot better than they ever did 20 years ago.

Crackpots gonna' crackpot.

You guys gotta' let go of the idea of Cornelius Bennett being there. Had he been honored prior to the sexual assault conviction and incarceration maybe they don't take him off............but no way he gets in after-the-fact.

The Bills were 1st in yards per carry in the NFL by RB's in 2022. Which is the more pertinent stat to the discussion anyway. (You are correct that they were 2nd in overall in ypc to the Bears because of Justin Fields running exploits). The issue isn't that yards per carry isn't a great stat. I mean there is out-of-the-box rationale and then there is just off-target and the idea that a full season ypa isn't a great stat is the latter. Some fans just think that you should always be able to run the ball at will whenever you want to.......which isn't how it works in the NFL......so when the Bills have a less effective day on the ground some just can't maintain that perspective. Even great running teams sometimes have mediocre-to-pathetic games on the ground.

The Buffalo Bills lead the entire NFL in yards per carry by RB's last season. I don't know what to tell you folks anymore........but it's comedy gold reading about how bad the Bills OL was/is at run blocking.

Yeah great reminder about the Takeo Spikes situation. He was quite forthright about that right away. You might be right about the NFL using the calf injury as code for the achilles but that would be very misleading. I think calf strains in general are seen as lesser injuries than hamstrings but to me it's always more concerning. The Durant/Thompson injuries in the NBA were called calf injuries at first but I don't think that was code.........the NBA really coddles players relative to other sports league's. I believe that those guys had muscle strains that turned into achilles injuries.

Who came up with that "scare crow" tag for Edmunds? Was that @HappyDays? That sh!t is hilarious.

And Klay Thompson. When I heard Rodgers had injured both of his calves in camp my mind immediately went to him possibly tearing that achilles. Been thinking the same thing about Burrow.

Wasn't it NYUP's Ryan Talbot's brother? Damond "Draft Diamonds" Talbot?

I think McDermott has really wanted to run one of those Shanahan offense's because he dislikes playing them..........but they've just never been able to get that outside zone style to work with any of the 3 OC's he's had. Glad to see they are just doing what they do better instead.

Yeah you are too serious for a message board about a pastime. Maybe fun is not for you.

Yeah this is an era where every play gets graded/scored. When you are signing 1 year deals you can't presume that any interested team is going to watch every play you made the prior season and weight those results based on whether they mattered with regard to who won or lost the game. Teams want players who play hard all the time. If you don't play full speed in a garbage time win maybe you don't play full speed down 2 scores in the 4th quarter. You gotta' let the employers know you go full speed all the time.

The talent difference is significant...........but that was to be expected in every way. Higher pedigree, tested better, drafted earlier in a much better RB draft and then as a rookie put up about a yard per carry more than the "good" Devin Singletary. He's gotta' keep it up throughout his rookie deal and show durability but he's definitely more talented.

Yeah not understanding is a natural byproduct of selective, careless or poor reading comprehension.

There were people who insisted Devin Singletary was just awful too.........despite him putting up very good ypa year after year. RB lovers will not be satisfied until they get something akin to Bijan Robinson..........a player who is called the best player in the draft by some hot take draft talking heads. And whether the player actually consistently produces or stays healthy in the NFL or not is a DISTANT secondary concern to his draft pedigree.

He doesn't have to suck. He was promoted as a potential Brian Urlacher 2.0 when drafted by the Bills and when that didn't ever come close to happening the narrative switched to "well, he's really good and you guys just don't understand his impact". The reality is that he doesn't make plays. Couple TFL's in the run game is nice........but it's about the lowest rung on the playmaker ladder for a LB and I wouldn't expect that to continue(though he should lead the NFL in tackles on a defense that may play the most snaps of any defense in football). Here are some staggering stats for Tremaine: He went a season where he blitzed 76 times without creating a single pressure. He hasn't forced a fumble since early in his rookie season........about 70 games ago. He strung together back-to-back seasons with over 100 passer rating against while his defenders insisted that teams were afraid to throw in his area. He had something of a breakout season last year.........but still no plays.........the switch has just never fully gone on for him and at $18M aav that's a problem for the Bears and a bullet dodged by the Bills. In limited time in the preseason the past two years and a couple games this season the largely uninspiring prospect Bernard has already shown a far greater nose for the football. And mind you.........I loved the Edmunds pick. Thought Tremaine would make a great, rangy edge rusher........basically replace the highly impactful Lorenzo Alexander in the Bills defense but allow them to play more 3 LB sets with his superior athleticism........a game changing talent. Being a solid player, but with clear weaknesses, at a devalued position was NOT a good result. I am also of the belief that he will be back in Buffalo at a fraction of the cost in a couple years and the narrative will turn from "he's a rising star just coming into his own" to "he's going back to where he had his most success".

His predecessor at MLB in Buffalo lead the NFL in tackles in 2017..........maybe this is the year he finally reaches that Preston Brown level as a tackle accumulator?

Probably more about your insecurities. Lotta' people leave WNY just because they want personal success to come easy. Then they often later realize the communitas that they've lost in the process and do things like becoming obsessive about the Bills or Sabres to try to re-capture some of that. Maybe that turns into "do they think less of me because I tried to take the easy way out?" when you visit or something. But I'd hardly buy that you become excluded because of your transience. The thing you and @Mango are describing happens whenever one moves to an area where there aren't a lot of people who have migrated there for jobs/money/weather. It's just a talking point. If anything I've seen most Buffalo area folks go out of their way to be extra nice to ex-pats or folks from out of town.

I also just assume his body won't hold up either. Guys that big who even have a few really good years.......like Trent Brown......are rare. But some fans just ignore that reality and want to use early picks on them because they are big. They are the fans who wanted the Bills to draft Aaron Gibson early. Every time one of those behemoths washes out those fans forget all about it. Gotta' learn from the league's mistakes. Hard enough keeping Spencer Brown on the field and he's relatively fit at his overgrown height.

Lotta' virtue signaling for a very bottom of the roster Bills employed media person. She had a video excerpt at the stadium during the game talking about the next gen stats around Allen's TD pass to Diggs in the Jets game. Wasn't any booing from the crowd or anything but who really cares if she has to move on to another gig? Does anyone think she adds anything that is difficult to replace? If so, what?

My all-time favorite Bills game. Highest point in franchise history, really. A 49ers-esque dynasty seemed imminent.

He called her Marry. Maddy***** was his attempt to acknowledge the mistake, I believe.