BADOLBILZ

Consider it constructive criticism. The upside is that, regarding your football takes, there is nowhere to go but up for you. I've given @Alphadawg7 credit for his improving process because I am objective. That's all. I don't care if he likes it or hates it. If it's logical, entertaining and/or improves the quality of conversation it's a good thing.

Yeah I heard you the first time..........like I said........you shouldn't have got sucked in even for that moment. After 3 years of the same issues and tons of film identifying his talent deficiencies it should have been abundantly clear. It's not for lack of hardwork or buy-in etc...........the guy just isn't talented enough to be a high end WR2 for a SB contender.

@Alphadawg7 has potential because he is thinking it thru and trying to figure it out. He shouldn't have believed for a second of this offseason that Gabe was anything more than what he's proven to be in his first 3 years because his deficiencies are not necessarily fixable. Sometimes there just isn't enough talent. But better to come to that realization late than never. You on the other hand........you are just good with being wrong and defiant about it, from what I've seen.

SF, Miami, Philadelphia, Cinci and Seattle all clearly have two dynamic WR1 talents as their second receiver. That's 5 indisputable examples not 3. There are a bunch of other teams that have have two WR1 talents when both are healthy or if the QB play is even adequate. Some of them even have WR3's that could be fringe WR1's like Cinci with Boyd and Seattle with JSN. The Bills are not one of these teams. They have a very clear WR1 and a big drop-off to Gabe as a WR3 talent with clear limitations. So to imply that it's "unrealistic" to have a WR1 level talent opposite your primary target is not so.........it's closer to a 25% scenario than "unrealistic" and most of the teams that have such setups are SB contenders. Why you choose to look like a fool on hills like this and those of Star Lotulelei and Tremaine Edmunds etc.. is a curiosity.

Coming from you.........the official weird, personal over-sharer of this football message board........I think we may have to create a new analogy: "The pot calling the water black".

Eh, it doesn't help him I'm sure but he just doesn't have good hand eye coordination so his hands don't make that subtle adjustment at the catch point to decelerate the ball and create that "soft hands" look. Davante Adams, for example, has smaller-than-Gabe 9" hands and his hands are great. Gabe had an astonishingly poor 10% drop rate last season..........Adams was at 3.9% last year after a couple years where he was sub 1% and sub 2% in 2020-2021.

Can Tre Flowers get flowers or is that like a hat on a hat scenario?

Agree with all of that except the "skill" part. Davis lacks the movement skills to excel at a wide variety of routes and has naturally hard hands. The latter is why he claps at the ball, IMO. He knows his hands suck so he's developed this weird technique that looks ridiculous when he drops the ball.........but at this point it seems likely that he is more comfortable catching the ball with his hands in motion than stationary like more highly skilled pass catchers. Gabe Davis is a hard worker but he's more of an overachiever than a guy with WR2 skill, IMO.

To think.........the Chiefs got a comp pick for losing Poles. He's been a terrible GM. Had he hit on his HC hire and the QB pick he might have survived this because that's basically how Beane survived some terrible pro personnel work and cap mismanagement early in his career..........but Poles likely will not. The Bears ownership is a patient bunch but the team/staff they have put together are a sh!t show.

It's over the top for sure but it goes both ways. The excuses made for Edmunds were so easily discredited that people like Shill Capaccio eventually turned to "you just don't know what you are watching" as an excuse. It was literally the opposite. The people who made those excuses literally did not understand what THEY were watching because they didn't understand how important instinct is at the MLB position.

You call yourself "streetkings" but the street would have 1 thing to say about Edmunds: He is juiceless..........and therefore useless. The more measured take is that he's a good player in a HOF player's body.........playing a devalued position that is generally easy to fill with average or better talent............and he played in a defense that funneled playmaking opportunities to him but he just couldn't make them.

Well there is a very simple, common sense solution to that: Play Gabe Davis 40%-50% of the snaps instead of 80-90%. He lead the Bills WR in snaps played last year and had 95% of the snaps in his lousy performance against the Jets in week 1. Gabe Davis is simply not good enough to deserve anything close to all of the snaps he gets. He is a player whose PT should depend on the matchups that they get..........and as long as he is WR2 he isn't getting favorable matchups against healthy/good opponents.

Bills biggest problem is a lack of playmakers in the pass game beyond Diggs. Just running more non-separators and ball-droppers out on passing plays doesn't resolve the issue of Gabe Davis or Dawson Knox not being able to elevate their games to be a top second option despite Allen being great. They both tend to need Allen to run around and buy time for them to make much of an impact. The Bills still need another very good WR to elevate their offense to the very top.

Shill Capaccio might have been the worst offender. That guy used to sing the praises of Edmunds and tell everyone they just didn't know what they were watching............and now he is pointing out how Edmunds lacked instincts and that's why he was so easily blocked and couldn't find the ball. Calling Edmunds out for his hands now too. Shill is the f#ckin' worst.

The deal Adams signed in 2022 is really more like a 3 year deal. He is great but nobody is accepting those $35M base salary cap hits from 2025 on. So you win with him this year and then either re-negotiate his contract or just add some dummy years to lower the $16.9M hit in 2024.

Yeah that's the stock answer. But remember that sometimes teams select 1st and 2nd round picks that end up being inactives and sometimes a second round pick gets traded for a swap of late round picks. Not naming any names. Adams is a pretty amazing football player. He's actually better than Diggs, who is GREAT. They could recover from losing a couple picks for a nearly unstoppable player like that.

I suspect Joe Douglas is probably thinking that this is an opportunity to throw Saleh in the deep end and see if he can swim...........and if not they can move on from Saleh and Hackett and maybe get a Ben Johnson as HC and be in position to get the 2nd-3rd best QB in a very good QB draft.......either by being well within the top 10 or being close enough to trade a surplus piece like Will McDonald to move up close enough to get a Drake Maye or the like. Best way to salvage this season is to turn it into getting the best young offensive mind at HC and another crack at a young franchise QB. As for Aaron Rodgers..........I suspect he will get over Hackett getting hacked off if they get a guy like Ben Johnson.

Yeah and it's less than that now. If they were to trade for him 7-8 games in it would be about $4M. I was going to start a thread about trading for Adams...........because it is probably the best potential all-in move they could make at the deadline..........but first there has to be some indication LV would consider it. Aside from Adams not adding speed to the table you'd be hard pressed to find a better way to upgrade the team in-season. He is a legit first team All Pro and a threat at every level. Can't even say that with a guy like Mike Evans. Probably cost a 1 and a 2 for a team Adams would accept a trade to.......I would guess. KC is the other team that could really use him but it would probably cost them 2 firsts or more if they would even consider a trade with their biggest rival(which I doubt). That would be like KC trading Tyreek in division.........wasn't going to happen.

Saleh is 12-25 Vrabel is 49-36 Not even remotely comparable HC's other than neither ever having a good QB.

Gase but Saleh isn't good.

Saleh is almost as bad a HC as Wilson is a QB. Biggest Meathead HC in the game. So yeah, now Namath is right. But they should have known that last year when Saleh was making in-season promises about keeping receipts on the media who criticized him and declaring that he was going to meet the Bills in the playoffs after their loss in Buffalo etc.. Amazing the pass the NY media have given that dummy.

Oliver has always shown single game flashes of being a star but he hasn't sustained that for even 3 games like this so it's definitely worth noting. Just need him to put together a full good season now. The Bills have only been originally slotted to draft higher than where they picked Oliver at 9th overall 3 times since the 1980's so he was actually a significant investment in the history of the franchise. I think what we are seeing is that his lack of progress earlier was as much a lack of maturity and focus as it was the nagging injuries(which may also have been preparation related). He's bought in and working like a pro now. I don't think it's the norm for players to not buy in until after they get paid.........but he is an unusual person so maybe that commitment has elevated his game.

It's common sense to me. Playing under center means more traditional play action and that causes a longer pause in the defense to create more separation and big play opportunities. And the shotgun too often leads to "spread" dink-and-dunk football..........which is detestable when you have a QB capable of more. And yes, the Bills need to work the short game but doing so from under center keeps Allen in rhythm, which helps with his timing/touch/accuracy, IMO.

You aren't wrong about the FA signings.........his overall pro personnel track record has been very poor even by the standard of a league where most teams are striking out a lot more than succeeding in FA. Beane didn't come to Buffalo as a seasoned personnel man and I think that was abundantly clear(and obvious at the time) with his incredibly bad pro personnel choices early in his GM tenure. But I've always believed that Beane is very intelligent and I've bought the idea that he and McDermott actually believe in their "growth mindset" which in theory should lead to better decisions with experience.........maybe we are seeing that happen now.

Yeah if the big money TE and the wannabe-big-money "WR2" caught the passes they should have I expect they have 2 more TD's scored(and 1 less FG and 0 turnovers instead of 1). 26-0 going into the 4th looks a lot better than 16-0. It's entirely a playmaker issue. Diggs is the only reliable veteran option in the passing game........again.