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I wonder if they could split the time with Taron at Nickle with Cam. Cam's younger and knows the system he seems to be playing better but I would also think that keeping everyone fresh should play a factor. Tre comes in as the pure dime back where he's excelling and Cam splits the Nickel reps with Taron keeping both guys fresh.

I think this is Keon's last shot to really turn it around here. The team has tried to do less harsh actions but now they benched him and told him shape up or ship out. And sometimes guys need to be cut or traded to click or they never get it. I think if Keon shows up and works hard the rest of the season they will bring him back and try to get it to work if nothing changes expect him to be traded for a later round pick swap of some sort or in a package as a throw in for another WR.

I honestly I am not really scared of the AFC field even if the Bills have to be a wildcard and go on the road as the 5/6 seed. Yes the Bills have flaws but the Bills if they are lets say the 5 seed at 11-6 or 12-5 as long as they get a pseudo bye not playing starters in week 18 (gets them the chance to rest where many teams may not) then I don't really think there's any team they can't beat on the road. If this was the NFC then yeah I would be concerned as I think the Eagles/Rams/Seahawks would all present problems but these AFC teams don't scare me. The AFC North winner is likely to be the 4 seed and The Steelers or Ravens (with Lamar banged up and their high level of injuries) don't really scare me. Then I look at The Colts/Pats/Broncos and I don't really think there's any game there the Bills can't win on the road either. Daniel Jones, Maye, and Nix have a combined 1 playoff win between them. Their teams are good don't get me wrong but neither one of those teams I look at and go oh that team is a big problem. While I do have my concerns about this Bills defense and the WR's I also think if there's any team that can "turn it on" in the playoffs it is the Bills esp if the Bills get a weeks rest going into the final week. The Bills run defense is a concern and The Colts and others in the field can run the ball. But I also think the Bills are the veteran team that's saving their best for the playoffs and if the can get Ed back and rest everyone week 18 then I think this team has that extra gear they can turn into. Overall I think this team can't get too far ahead of its self just win on Thursday and get the mini-bye see where it shakes out from there.

McD is doing a good job at safety with the in season moves. I think Po while he's been not great as a pure safety he hasn't been bad and he has had a major impact on Cole and possibly others in the secondary with how much he knows the system. He's been a major help and also I think playing Handcock 15-20 snaps a game at safety has helped ease him into that role while keeping Po more fresh. I think Po and Tre are both showing in more limited roles that they can still be effective. And my hope is that Handcock can take more and more snaps as he gains more experience as each week goes by.

I would rather ride out Torrence for the last year of his rookie deal given that the Bills are likely to have some turnover along the interior O-line next season with McGovern and Edwards both being free agents and the high possibility that at least one if not both are gone. I would rather keep Torrence there so at least one of the three interior O-line players are still there. I think scouring the trade market for some high risk value like BTJ or MHJ is going to be what it takes since the Bills can't count on finding WR's where they will be drafting (hard for any team to do so) so trying to find a reclamation project who might pop with a better system/QB play is the best way to go.

If the Bills aren't going to win the division because New England just beats up on the bad teams then my hope is that the Bills are going into week 18 just completely locked into the 5 seed and they can get a pesudo bye to rest up before the playoffs. It's far too early to project that out. Just win on Thursday and get a win and a "mini-bye" and see where everything shakes out.

Yeah that WR class is looking rough esp after the first few picks. I think the top 4 picks are doing OK to good but after that it gets ugly. Odunze is coming on his second year, he's roughly on pace for just over 1k yards and 9-11 TD's he had a bad rookie year but he's making an impact in year 2 as the Bears top WR. Nabers is great he just had a bad injury. Harrison is uneven but I think if you watch him he can clearly play as a top 2 WR in the league, he may not justify his top draft status but he is a starting caliber WR. BTJ is having a stunning collapse but he was so electric his rookie year that I think you have to kind of give him a chance to turn it around. After those top 4 guys man it's one player whose been good and a lot of busts and "works in progress". Worthy is not making a major impact in KC certainly still work in progress as he does flash on gadget plays. Pearsall is showing some flashes but very much still a role player on a less than effective at times offense "work in progress" is accurate on him. Keon we all know is a work in progress to be generous and trending towards bust status. Ladd is the one guy who is a hit and then the rest of 2nd and early 3rd down WR's are not looking good. I wonder if the Bills in the off-season are looking for a WR if they should consider trying to trade for BTJ or MHJ? If you offered a 2nd round pick in 2026 (likely a pick in the 50-64 range) and a mid round pick in 2027 would that be enough to pry one of those guys away?

The Bills need to get a win and head to the "mini-bye" get to 8-3. It would keep the Bills in the division race and it would also help this team to escape with an away game win and head to a few extra days rest. This is going to be the Bills last chance at extra rest before the playoffs (barring a possible meaningless week 18 which is possible if the Bills are locked in a 5 seed if NE keeps beating up on their soft schedule) so if they can get a win and escape somewhat healthy that would be huge extra rest for a stretch run. Not only do I want this team to "keep pace" in the division but I also would if this team has to be a wildcard team have them be locked into the 5 seed and in a completely meaningless week 18 so they can get a pesudo bye before the playoffs which is a massive advantage to have. If they want to have a locked in wildcard they will have to have a big record even if they can't catch New England.

I still think if this team is going to rely on Shavers and Gabe to really make this WR core work then this is going to be an issue. But the Bills honestly have no choice but to try to make Gabe Davis work in the Mack Hollins role (minus the ST ace upside) which I think he can do that. I also think the Bills can get some production out of Shavers and even Samuel down the field. The Bills just have to try to be willing to throw downfield even if it isn't optimal and lean into what the team has vs. what it should have.

So banged up at LB unfortunately. And the Bills got very fortunate with finding Shaq Thompson. I think the Bills ideal LB situation is to have Bernard and Shaq healthy while using Dorian as the third LB in running and QB spy/blitz situations and mixing in Milano to try to absorb some snaps for Shaq and Bernard early in the game. I think Milano for 15-20 snaps a game can still make plays he is just no longer an every down LB. I also think the team should consider rotating in Buffalo Joe 10ish snaps a game esp when Shaq is out. This team just simply is so short on bodies and banged up at LB.

Just win on Thursday and see how things shake out. The Bills were 6-6 and 3 games behind Miami for the division with 5 games left in 2023. The NFL is a week to week insane variability. The Pats just lost Milton Williams for 4 weeks on IR (high ankle sprain he will be back) who knows how things will shake out.

Thursday games are always so funky we could see a 28-31 shootout as much as we could see a 14-17 defensive matchup. One thing I liked was that without a ground game to work off of Josh was able to just throw the ball down the field and be successful. He’s never done that this season. It was so successful a passing offense that for the first time this season I wanted them to throw

I think you are overrating other teams talent. I think if you add up the sum of the Bills parts you have a defense that’s at least more talented than 18 teams in the league. Its not performing that way for various reasons but I think the talent is there to be a better than average defense

I wouldn’t say it was eked out but only reason I might say the TB WR’s may not have made much of a difference is largely because they got so much offense running the ball it wouldn’t have led to much action on WR’s. But what was the biggest positive to me was that without a ground game to work off of Josh was able to just drop back and throw and be successful

I wonder what the Bills average field position on was possessions off a kickoff seemed like it would be well past the 40.

The talent level on the defense is better than you give it credit for it’s a defense that on paper should be better than average but is performing decidedly below average. I don’t think the defense is elite talent wise but they have a better than average talent level and are underperforming that

The whole is less than the sum of its parts which is insanely frustrating. McD is supposed to be a defensive coach but this team is under performing its talent level at times.

I was genuinely worried about the offense but I liked that early they were taking shots down the field to the WR’s even if they didn’t work. Just the willingness to spread things out and throw the ball is what they needed to do against one of the best rushing defenses in the league. By the second quarter I wanted them to just put Josh in the gun every down and throw which is not something I have thought at any point this season.

If he shows up hard in practice I don’t see why they shouldn’t give him a shot but it’s a long road to go for him to be active on gameday

Probably going to have to if he doesn’t show more effort and professionalism. It’s one thing if you just aren’t getting it done but you are putting in the effort. But if your production is lackluster and you are dogging it and missing meetings then you need to be off the team. Cut your losses trade him for a pick or a pick swap whatever you can get

If this isn’t a wake up call for him it’s not gonna happen in a Bills uniform. Dude got way too high on the relatively limited amount of success and goodwill he’s had at the NFL level. The fact that the offense passing wise was a lot better today without him only serves as a reminder you gotta put in the effort to make it on the NFL level.

It was super confusing I thought are they just giving Tampa Bay a shot at two plays before the two minute warning?

Actually wanting the Bills to pass the ball and not run is a positive. WR’s were getting open down the field at least decently

I don't doubt it is possible that Gabe can make an impact, but I also think the only way he is going to make an impact is if he is as healthy as possible. There's no need to rush him back in November if you can wait a month and get him back healthier. I do think it is unlikely Gabe will change the complexion of the offense but he could be a positive contributor.

I think resigning both is unlikely. Just cap wise and how well both guys are playing I don't see them being able to keep both. But I would strongly hope they could at least keep one. Keeping one means you keep 80% of a very strong O-line in place and you could probably replace one with SVPG or Andersen and draft some depth and competition.