Mr. WEO

who cares if a player "loves" the city they play in? Anyway... aren't many examples of a first round QB tanking his way off a team, let alone a future HOFer. Anderson reference was out of left filed..

No GM thinks this way.

He's not exposed here. The owners paid for the lawyers to write the indemnification contract with Kroenke, not Goodell. In fact will decide if Kroenke is solely on the hook. If he does, Kroenke can take that to court and try to say the "costs', don't include "settlements".. This isn't Goodell's problem. It's Terry's/Jerry's/Bob's/Stan's......

No, the point was he didn't have much choice but to play in Buffalo. Playing poorly for 5 years was not a cogent option, doc.... Even if it made a tiny bit of sense, the thought that Kelly wouldn't want to be someday in the HOF is unimaginable, as is getting there with 5 bad seasons to start your career. Everything about this idea is absurd.

Anderson was a Kicker. So Kelley could have just tanked his way off the Bills (for 5 years!) and into a HOF career?

What?? Then fire him now. Or let him go work for the Steelers.

He'll get paid on his next contract--maybe just about what Morse is getting....plus a 1st round pick. nh. yeah I don't see how this makes any sense either.

Give up a 1st round pick for a C?

yeah he always says it “starts with me”. Coaching cliche. They all say it. then he quickly shifted to “execution”—clearly leveling blame at the players.

yeah anyone can file a suit. At least the Jets guy is claiming damages. The suit will get tossed. no one can claim Ross’s bribe altered any games so there really wouldn’t be a basis for a suit. I never disagreed that if Flores claims are true, Ross is exposed to criminal charges. Not sure why you keep repeating that.

Mc D called 2 TOs. If he (and his DC) can't figure out what he is seeing on the field after that, it's hardly on some down-list coach. McD seems content to let the public infer, from his comments and moves, that the fault lies with others, not him.

I'm only asking because you didn't answer the simple question--who will sue and what will thy sue for? What would be a claim or damages?

lol: Herbert at 2 and Stafford at 3. Acho with full blown CTE right now.

If McD is cleaning house by letting these coaches go "to explore other opportunities" over the 13 seconds than that's pretty alarming. As a DC by training, if he can't, after 2 TO's, figure out what Defense is appropriate in that scenario, then these issues with his decision making will never go away. Position coaches didn't screw that up...

Who would be the plaintiff in a civil lawsuit and what will be their claim?

this discussion wasn't about criminal jeopardy. Poster Rew brought up a civil lawsuit. I said it was baseless--especially because there was no impact on the outcomes of games (his argument). You went off on his tangent.

the other poster brought up a lawsuit, which is a civil legal action.

LAMP

No, there is no grounds for a lawsuit. a plaintiff would have to state a claim. What claim would they make? Ross bribed Flores to tank...but there was no actual bribe and no tank? What damage would a plaintiff claim. What relief would they be seeking? Filing a lawsuit is just that. Ross would have much better lawyers than Joe Blow plaintiff and would get this dismissed on these grounds.

You clearly above mentioned a public lawsuit could be possible based on his relationship with a gambling company, Flores’’s claims and the effect “on the outcome of games”. You try explain how Ross’s rebuffed alleged bribe could possibly affect the outcome of a game and therefore be the basis for a “public lawsuit”…..by saying Ross may have committed a crime. Makes no sense. No one is going to sue Ross for offering a bribe (except Flores) to tank.

. By “public case” do mean as in The People vs Ross—a criminal case? if not, and you are talking about a law suit, who is the plaintiff? What damage would they claim?

I’m still not understanding how a rejected “bribe” of a coach would affect any games outcome. Yiu are now referring to the criminal legal jeopardy Ross may be in for even making the offer, which may be true, but a different matter. none of that could possibly affect the outcome of any game. Maybe you are claiming he successfully bribed another coach? Players? Is this what you are referring to with “the investigation “, and what it will reveal?

lol…might as well be

lol, the pipeline

Good for him. How many QB coaches do the Bills need?