Mr. WEO

Exactly. No negative. No positive other than what you just said there.

You don't know why they settled on this guy (who was not very valuable to them a few seasons ago, right?), other than the obvious--maybe he's just appeasing his golden goose. Josh may have said hey can you bring in my boy Matt again? I love that guy, and I don't know Case, who's gonna be eying me like Wylie Coyote looks at Roadrunner! As opposed to "man, we really gotta get a veteran journeyman PS guy to help carry some of the load in the QB film room". lol

wrong about what? It's my opinion that be doesn't bring much. They signed him. He's not the first dud signing they have made in 4 years.

"hey Josh---want me to dissect summa that Jets film for you??" "Nah, bro--me and Case got it. Can you grab us coupla Cherry Blade Lemonade Bangs, yo?" "You got it Josh!!" I don't "hate" him. I just don't see the value of him on the team at this point. I've said so and why 4 times now. Keep up.

Might as well title it "Von Miller vs current pass rushers"...

Fair enough. Most of those guys won't make the roster. In Taylor, they needed a backup QB and he was available and likely the best value if they aren't sure about their starter. Doubt hi being in Buffalo had anything to do with it--Daboll never coached him.

What, Josh Norman is busy?

My point was Taylor was cut by Daboll and Beane within 2 months of Daboll's hiring. Tyrod was already on the team when the Bills hired Schoen. So at most they were in the same organization for a season. Sills had a cup of coffee in Buffalo 3 years ago. They day after he was cut by Bill she went to the Giants and has been there ever since. You can't make your point that Schoen is "brining in" guys like Sills when he's been there 3 years longer than Schoen (it goes without saying that re-signing isn't "bringing in"--whether the decision is "conscious" or unconscious).

Can a player coach in a game? It would only have to be for like 13 seconds or so….

Tyrod was gone as soon as Daboll was Bills OC Sills never played a game for the Bills. He’s been in the Giants organization since 2019. Proehl also was waived without playing a game. Was PS.

We all fully comprehend what happened during his tenure, thanks. And as with all things Whaley, he was happy to let others think bad moves like Rex were someone else’s fault. Go look up Doug’s own comments about landing Rex and point to where he hints that he wanted nothing to do with that hire. He was a bum who signed 3 good FAs. That’s it. McD flushed his roster down the toilet to excellent effect

Who knows what his health will be. Akers came back in week 18 and was a nonfactor the rest of the way.

Isn't Patterson a poor man's Samuel?

The poster said "FO" and "coaches", so I responded. Anyway, you're wrong. Martin Mahew was GM for the Lions for 8 years and then fired in 2015. He held senior FO positions for 2 other teams and now is GM of Washington. Of the other 25 white current GMs', only 1 had been fired as GM previously (Baalke).

since the overwhelming number are white this seems to be true---- But black coaches have been recycled. A lot... Whaley was recycled to the Bills. As for coaches Hue Jackson was the most notorious recycle. But pretty much every black HC you can name has also been recycled: Dennis Green as well as Anthony Lynn, Art Schell, Ray Rhodes, Tony Dungy, Herm Edwards, Romeo Crennel, Jim Caldwell, Todd Bowles and now Lovie Smith.

so... Doomed!! or SB!!!

Colts are a Matty Ice away from the SB??? They are Pittman and Taylor.... And.....a 1st round pick for what's left of Ryan?? lol stop.

this is a good pickup

When Whaley described his process for the selection of Rex, I chose to take him at his word that he was all in and on top of that choice. He likened it to choosing a spouse in fact. its been said over and over…and disproven as many times If he was excellent at collecting talent he would have a job in the NFL where a large number of GMs are not very excellent at collecting talent

Whaley himself put that nonsense to rest years ago.

Because he is competent. Competence allows for honesty. As a GM, Whaley was incompetent in any and every way. His only significant moves were bringing in 3 good FAs. Terrible at picking coaches. Never got a QB. "ownership" wasn't preventing him from doing his basic duties. The pass he gets here is bizarre. The NFL is notorious for recycling FO talent, yet no team has hired him in any capacity since he was canned. Day One Starters!!!!

Forgot EJ

Well I was trying to give Whaley credit for something....