Mr. WEO

Yeah, hard to believe he couldn't get more out of Sam Darnold, Cam Newton, PJ Walker and Chubba Hubbard... Anyway, I don't think Josh needs this guy at this point. His QB Coach is now also his OC.

yes, so your were already familiar with it. so it really made no sense to start another such----particularly with the words "I’m surprised this thread hasn’t been started"...

There might be few, but not nearly enough. Look, if these stories are true, the league (the owners) will come after the offending owner(s). That's about it. Congress won't hurt the NFL, not after scandals of sexual abuse, player abuse/neglect, cheating scandals. This will be no different.

no but one of them involved burying evidence that players were prone to snd suffering from serious neurological damage as a result of playing football. Thats not more problematic than allegations of tanking for money? Of course it is….and congress shrugged

He was judged. The owner fired him. 8 others faced the same fate in the past 2 months.

Neither was mine--I was simply comparing the 2 coaches' histories. You said McDaniel was some guy in SF. At least he was a Coordinator. Flores was a LB coach before he was HC. So it's hard to knock McDaniels for that. Flores got fired, and like any coach who gets fired, it doesn't really matter what the next guy seems like.

Were they "looking to pull" the anti-trust protection after Spygate? Deflategate? CTE-gate? Redskins-cheerleader gate? No, and why not? Because "the stick" is that no congressman who votes the end the NFL as fans currently enjoy it would be re-elected.

Ross is waiting to see which HC candidate will take less cash bonus per loss... What did Flores do before the Fins made him HC that warranted a HC job? He wasn't ever even a coordinator.

that's already the subject of a very long thread right here on page one.

It always amazes me that NFL fans would be eager for the anti-trust exemption for the NFL to go away..

Jackson is jumping on this so there might be a chance that he won't be seen as the worst HC in history----he was PAID to go winless! what a dumbass...

a ref conspiracy thread....cool!

Yes, Jake from Appalachia

If Jackson was dumb enough to take the money, and now tell everyone he took it, he's opened himself to a massive suit by Browns fans for defrauding them.

Imagine the excitement that a Dan Jones-Mitch Trubisky "QB competition" would bring to the Giants fandom and the local press....

I'm here to help.

It was the simplest accurate response I could think of. The reason Sterling lost his team shares no similarity to this case, other than you and others calling for the owner to "lose his team". No one is taking away Ross's team for firing Flores and therefore bringing the number of black HC's to 1. He's accused (by Flores) of offering to pay Flores to have his team lose games, not having actually having paid a HC to lose games (that would be an interesting accusation for the paid-off coach to make, don't you think, given that is a crime?). If Flores has proof of the offer, Ross is in trouble. If he doesn't Flores is in trouble. Pretty simple.

So if they had offered him the job beforehand but the Bills kept it secret, all good--no lawsuit?

I thought Flores did a great job his first season and said so here at the time. COTY candidate. For the purposes of this discussion, it doesn't matter. Owners fire decent coaches and hire predictably bad coaches (looking at you Rex). Lots of owner are football morons. None of that comes into play. Flores could have more convincingly filed a suit against Ross for firing him after he wouldn't take money to tank. That would have been a chip shot. My guess is he didn't because he can't prove that. So he stuck it in his Bill of Particulars for the clicks.

Let's not forget that Flores has only made these claims a few years later, after he was fired, and without (so far) proof.

How did Ross convince 8 other owners not to hire Flores? Flores didn't the his firing graciously a few weeks ago. People took notice. In fact even here posters felt he was poisoning his chances at another job.

Who knows? He says he was asked to do unsavory things as coach, yet he never mentioned them or quit over them.

true. I was responding to the subject re: their relationship. That's not part of and lawsuit and they are free to comment as it would have no impact on pending litigation.

Neither are party to the suit so they are free to comment on their relationship.

Yup---and neither of them had any chance as the Bills clearly wanted Dorsey all along. Everyone here has been saying so for a week. Since there has been a Rooney Rule, this is how teams have dealt with it. It's not actionable.