st pete gogolak

This.

His tenure at Detroit wasn't a "disaster". He took an 0-16 (0-16!) team and had them in the playoffs in his third year. Oh yeah, a guy named Belichick was a "disaster" in his first HC job at Cleveland. All I'm saying is I'm surprised he is not a top tier candidate for one of the many HC openings in the league right now.

Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen any reports linking Jim Schwartz to any of the head coach vacancies. I think that's nuts. Guy did a great job as DC in Tennessee, did a respectable - not great - job as HC in Detroit, great job as DC with the Bills and great job as DC with the Eagles. At a minimum, you know you're going to get a really good defensive mind if you hire him. One of the Bills biggest mistakes in the last ten years (and God knows there have been enough of them) was not making Schwartz HC after Marrone bolted, or at least throwing a bunch of money at him to keep him as DC and hire an offensive minded head coach. Thanks, Terry!!

Peterman's ceiling is Frank Reich, which isn't a bad ceiling but it's not who you want as your starting QB in a QB dominated league.

I was at that game against the LOS ANGELES Raiders. Nosebleed seats in the Coliseum. Great game. Norwood was awful. Raiders sat on their lead in the second half and it blew up on them. It's 20/20 hindsight but instead of picking Conlan (a terrific player) how about picking Jerome Brown and teaming him up with Bruce Smith to wreck havoc on opposing OL's?

Point two is really a good point. I've seen many commentators talk about how easy NE has had it over the years because of the weakness of the other teams in their division. But look at it from the other side. If Miami, Bills and Jets are starting off the year 0-2, chances of making the playoffs are slim to none and that's been borne out over the last seventeen years.

Hey, this gives Hue Jackson a shot at obliterating Harvey Johnson's record as worst head coach of all time. Harvey was 2-23-1 in two interim stints with the Bills and if my math is right Jackson is a scintillating 1-27 with the Browns.

If we missed the deadline it is nothing but monumentally stupid.

Sorry if this is addressed in a different thread but can we still get the round #3 comp pick by releasing some combination of Vlad, DiMarco, Holmes, et al? If we did miss the deadline for the comp pick, these guys are dumber than I thought.

Tell me again how many teams have allowed 135 points IN THE LAST THREE GAMES.

What if anything will make you reconsider staying a loyal Buffalo Bill fan come opening day of the 2018 season? For me it will be seeing Jordan Mills starting at right tackle.

I'm not letting the Pegula's off the hook, but it's not for the McDermott hire. When Marrone bolted they had a perfectly competent NFL coach in their employ - Jim Schwartz - who had done really good things with the defense. They could have made him head coach or they could have thrown enough money at him to convince him to stay on as d- coordinator and find an offensive minded head coach. Instead, they hire the assclown who proceeds to destroy the D and set the franchise back a couple of more years. Yeah, the Pegula's don't get out of this scott free.

I think one of the big issues are problems that surfaced last night and smacked us in the face are problems that every single poster has complained about at one time or another (1) Tolbert isn't an adequate back-up to McCoy; (2) Ducasse has absolutely no business being on a football field; (3) Dennison's playcalling stinks. I'm not going to go crazy after one bad performance in which a lot of weird breaks when against us and I generally like what McDermott and Beane are doing but it's irritating seeing obvious flaws not being addressed.

Another reason to hate Marcell: 2011 NFL Draft #3 Marcell Dareus #4 A. J. Green Of course, it would have been stupid to waste a top three draft pick on a receiver without a quarterback who could throw the ball to him. Hey wait a minute. . .

I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this but it's absolutely mind-blowing that the Bills have spent two #1's (Sammy), two #2's (Woods, Jones), two #3's (Graham, Goodwin) and a #4 (Sammy again) (not even counting trading a #2 (Darby) for a WR) IN THE LAST SIX YEARS and we arguably have the worst WR group in the league. How is that even possible?

A few years ago, the Rams had Isaac Bruce, who at the time was a top ten receiver, and they selected Torry Holt with a top six or seven pick. At the time, I thought it was a very odd selection. It turns out that pick (plus lucking out with Kurt Warner) won the Rams a Super Bowl.

TJ Graham and another #4 for Sammy.

Not a criticism of the OP, more of a damnation of the front office, but let's not forget that this is a team that has spent 2 #1's, a #2, 2 #3's and a #4 on WR's in the last four drafts. And we now need to find another one! Good grief!!!!

No question this has been a horrifically disappointing season - most disappointing in recent memory. But take a step back and imagine what this season would have been like with EJ Manuel and Matt Cassel as the quarterbacks. Two wins? Maybe three? It would have been as ugly a season as we've had in 30 years, which is really saying something. Has Taylor been perfect? Far from it. He certainly has significant flaws in his game. Nevertheless, if this had been his rookie season people would have been over the moon at his performance. Of course, he's not a rookie - he's a five year vet at this point. But this year was his first year of actual game experience. There is certainly a chance that his game will improve with a full off-season, training camp and pre-season as the undisputed #1 QB. Taylor isn't the reason this season has been disappointing. He's the reason it hasn't been a total, unmitigated disaster.

Holy crap! If the Bills miss the playoffs it's probably because the Jets or Raiders make it. Now, that's depressing.

Even if that wasn't holding (which is clearly was), shouldn't it have been called as a make-up call for the phantom PI call on Robey? I thought the make-up call was one of the bed-rock principals of NFL referee-ing.

I'm always a little bit surprised that whenever there is a discussion of the worst head coach in the history of the NFL, Harvey Johnson's name is not at least mentioned. In two interim gigs as Bills' head coach, Johnson compiled a stunning 2-23-1 record, a winning percentage of 8%. Amazingly, one of the two wins was over the Joe Namath led New York Jets, who went on to win the Super Bowl that year.

This is sarcasm, right? Right? If it isn't, only question is whether you watched, you know, the game yesterday? I wanted him to succeed as much as any Bills' fan but the guy is hilariously inaccurate for an NFL QB, doesn't process quickly enough, etc. etc. etc.

His ceiling, repeat CEILING, is capable back-up quarterback if he exercises better ball control. No accuracy, processes information too slow = zero chance of ever being a starting NFL QB.

First and goal. Chance to get out to a good start. Wildcat - WILDCAT!! - Wood hikes the ball and hits Woods in the helmet. We're lucky to recover. Second and goal. Pass to Gragg who catches it standing with two feet a yard out of bounds! Even the announcers start laughing. Third and goal. Manuel misses a wide open Gragg in the end zone by about 10 yards. That, my friends, is a microcosm of this team.