HardyBoy

Sounds like BB must have pioneered the idea of losing games to help your tie breaker...he truly is not just ahead of his time, but this board as well Get what you're saying, problem is, it sounds like a coordinated effort to injure players/remove the head of the snake, or whatever crazy thing douggg was saying. Forget that being incredibly against the rules, that would require him putting his players in a position to be fined heavily and possibly suspended, which is a fine as well. Players won't go for that since the new rules on fines, and say what you will about the guy, but BB does seem to care about his players, Parcells on the other hand...

Read below, and this staff's attempt at culture change appears a lot more genuine and in line with how to succeed based on the article: https://theundefeated.com/features/all-22-an-nfl-head-coachs-first-mistake-is-trying-to-immediately-change-a-teams-culture/

Add to that the pats were playing quickly, and not getting huge chunks of yards. 10 more minutes on the field, but they played an extra game's worth of snaps compared to the Pats d (twice as many snaps)...that's insane.

I could be totally wrong on below, I just played whole lot of Madden a long time ago. I did play soccer, basketball and lax, and I definitely get defensive principles (bringing help from the weakside, funneling the play, jumping passing lanes, etc), but really appreciate these types of threads b/c I have no real clue how they apply to football. How does that look when the offense is strong right 3 wr & te slot right, and the d is lined up 4-3 with strong lb shading of the te's outside shoulder? I think I get what front 7 is doing playing contain on the ends, shooting/stunting the center with the dts and forcing the play to the middle and strong side lbs, who have to cover well, but almost in a smart play specific way for a short period of time. A bit shacky on what this looks like in the secondary though. Are they playing man on the strong side, with strong side saftey rolling back into deep middle zone, weak side saftey playing 10-15 yard zone choosing their zone on the snap, weak side cb dropping deep man with the weak side lb stepping into the slant passing lane and carrying the passing lane up the field and transfering to the weakside cb, then taking the zone the wk side safety didnt take?

It doesn't matter, I heard people are saying new coach is going to prefer boneless wings from Pizza Hut...we're dooomed

Completely disagree. The Miami Hurricanes had how many first round draft picks the last couple years under Golden, and they sucked on defense. The reason was the d was overly complicated. It took away one of their biggest advantages, which was speed and first step. It's not about being stupid, they could get to their spots, it's about that split second where you are thinking before moving that screws you.

Anyone have a link to a clip of the play? Thought I remembered his momentum taking him out of bounds on that play.

Absolutely, but the 2000 Ravens had 6 close games (7 or fewer points). Granted only like one or two of those were over 20 points (product of bad offense most likely, so might be a bad example).

What was the avg margin of those losses? Close games are largely luck, and 2 years isn't enough time to weed out the variance...he could easily go on a ten win run in close games going forward (not holding my breath, just saying.

Damn, got excited thinking they were going to go ultra analytical, though I do think Whaley is better at finding value players than most (I think Rex's d values safeties more than most, so lack of depth at safety might be due to it being a drastic change in blueprint (Whaley seems to identify players several years before he gets them))...I am curious how the Browns rebuild over the next few years.

Bands like The Dead and Phish both also have a strong sense of community as a key aspect to their enduring popularity. My feeling is that most people get the love of football passed down to them from their families, and lesser extent friends (their friends will also have first watched with their families). Football, more than other sport by far is the most family friendly, in terms of game times. Even the super bowl starts before 6:30 eastern. Used to be you had two games a week that end after 11pm est, now there's three. Doesn't seem like much, but definitely could lead to a less in home family friendly product. Definitely think the root cause is going to be related to how it is consumed by the entire family unit, though I think concussion concerns and the fear of exposing their children to watching people give themselves dementia for their own entertainment is enough of a moral tight rope that they decide to spend their family time on Sunday's differently.

Is there video of the Losman int in the last game in foxboro? Haven't had any luck finding it online.

With Shaq and Sammy both playing today we enacted the dual IR clause in the new cba...first time it's ever been triggered too, so not sure what's gonna happen, but Salas is definitely out of the question.

Wow

Wait, aren't the people who talk about how pc everything got, supposed to be all about personal responsibility and standing behind one's commitments? I'm probably taking the bait on this one...

I am done with this team if they make a move that impacts our future franchise qb's Deferred Eligibility Reactivation Policy (DERP). Whaley has already gone to far with this crap and that would just be the last straw.

Day after bump

What a dirt bag, this all your fault!!

What if he dove straight at his knee, would your opinion change?

Ok, let's flip the scenario. In a hypotherical situation let's say the bills ended the season with two fumbles, but only ran 10 times a game. How does that impact the team's overall strategy? What are the statistical thresholds in other areas on offense and defense that the team would need to achieve in order for it to be a successful strategy? What happens if you see a flash of potential in garbage time that makes you think that a slight shift in approach might lead to improved overall efficiency and expected outcome. It's all opportunity cost, what do those equations look like? There are people on here who can provide detailed and informative input on these questions, and I think more than just me would be interested in their perspectives.

I'm not blaming him, and I think that some of those throws on the last drive show that he can throw with anticipation, so it's an offensive philosophy sort of thing. I would guess most games you are up by 11 in the second half, you win with that strategy, especially this team's defense over the past 6 of 7 games. I'm just curious if two ints is a good thing or a sign of the handcuffing of half your offense. What are the odds of a team making the playoffs with fewer than say 6 picks in a year? So in the OP I was asking for people with real football knowledge to help explain to me what I was seeing, which is me flat out admitting I have no idea what I am watching strategy wise. Especially without taking a heavy look at the all-22, and even then I would be shocked if I could figure out what was going on past a Madden level of understanding. So, surely you aren't refering to me as a self described expert, right?

Absolutely, it's a risk reward thing. When you're averaging 7 yards a run, no need to risk the picks, when you're up 11 in the second half, no need to risk the picks. My guess is teams took the middle throw away from the bills the last 4 games and made the run beat them. It worked, Shady and co went off, but today looks like there is tape on how to successfully adjust, which is going to be repeated goimg forward. Unless the oline simply got tired in the heat, Tyrod is going to need to start hitting those middle of the field throws, or we might be looking at this offense getting figured out like in 02 and 03.

Fair, let's say just plays where he had actual time to set his feet on throws. Miami was in his face within 2 seconds on a bumch of those plays. He made 3-4 solid throws on that drive (from my depressed memory:)), which appeared to be anticipation throws, seeing he rarely had enough time to let a play develop. How many throws did he have down the middle of the field 15-25 yards in the entire game, and how many were on that last drive? What percentage of his throws into tight windows over the entire season came on that last drive? What % of passes 15-25 yards over the middle are intercepted league wide, how many is Tyrod throwing, and does that explain the low int number?

My take is they are playing it safe and the lack of picks is less a result of elite play and more a result of safe play design, which discourages anticipation throws. That last drive, granted from the tv broadcast, looked like Tyrod was driving the ball down the middle of the field, into tight windows, with anticipation. That throw to Goodwin isn't a hosiptal ball if it's to Watkins, or Woods and Clay even. Granted the dolphins were giving the middle of the field, but that was the qb we saw last year for stretches that got us excited. Hoping some people with real football knowledge could weigh in and explain to me what I was seeing in that last drive, and if the two interception number through 7 games is more a sign of a muzzle vs excellent decision making and ball control.

Btw, I take it back, it ended up being hotter at 2 than it was at noon by a decent amount...not oppressively hot, but definitely will feel like a summer day with moderate humidity