HardyBoy

Haha, wait me?! I think sports talk radio taking phone calls from the audience is super lazy and they do it largely to fill space...that and the reflexive immediate negative reaction people have and the use of petty nicknames is super annoying

Oh stiffle it Hondo

I don't pray, but sure

Sounds about right

Yeah, I remember Tim Graham was positing in here right around when I joined iirc, which had to have been somewhere between 2007-2009 I would think (I lurked for a whiiiillle before actually signing up) It really might have been Jerry Sullivan and seven burner accounts that forced Graham out, based on the time frame... I'm only mostly kidding!

They definitely were both on here posting for a bit at separate times until I would imagine Jerry Sullivan's seven burner accounts called them out for not sharing details that would have burned their sources or something. I can't remember all the specifics, felt silly, especially as they seemed pretty engaged.

Didn't we run both him and Warrow off from here? And by we I mean some of us

Debi from Depew in the house? Lol, I'm just kidding

I call everyone dude for what it's worth...and you didn't address the point of my post

There's a difference between people having their own opinion and the swirling negative group think of Deppie from Depew and Frank on a cell

Um dude, he's saying people shouldn't listen to Debbie from Depew, not that Bills leadership and scouting should be proud they know more than Debbie.

Um, definitely remove Dareus from that list... dude deservingly got bank on a second contract and then coasted...he was gearing up to be a generational talent. It's funny, people specifically calling Dareus a bust, while complaining about this Bills leadership drafting players who "love ball" even if there are other players who maybe measure better (not saying you are that person)

Oh *****, I read this after I voted...I thought I could throw a tiny toss to a running back right next to me or something! Wonder if I can change my vote! Lol, every cb taking away the short stuff and even though I can throw a football decently far, I'll get destroyed by a blitz or just the rush and not get up... it would be awful

To be fair I do think it was injuries largely with Watkins... which is a huge risk in the nfl obviously. He also turned out to have some pretty let's just say interesting ideas on things iirc... kinda wonder if he brought any of that into his injury rehab?

You can find a bit better than average qb play in free agency and through trades...Baker Mayfield for example...using a top five pick on a mid first or lower rated qb is bad use of draft value...especially when those players are going to likely bad teams and situations and their flaws will be magnified, which gunner points out in several of his ratings as a concern. If you want to argue trading out of the very top of a weak qb draft to get more picks to help you get up the next chance you have where there are a number of elite qb prospects, assuming you can find people to give you value for the pick without there being an elite qb prospect, sure...reaching for any position, especially qb to get a slightly better than average prospect...and then saying there's no argument... I'm not with you on that one, but you're welcome to your opinion obviously. The worst thing to have is a mid-tier rookie qb that you don't know if you should re-sign or let walk...look at Tannehil with the Dolphins, shoot, look at Tua now who has had trouble in the cold and wind late in the season. Look at Dak Prescott and his contract...some of those guys are well above slightly above average...I just don't think you ever reach for a player and seeing elite ceiling due to athleticism and coachability isn't reaching, that's factored into the ratings...some people might have a higher risk tolerance than others...EJ Manuel was a bad pick...JP Losman was a very good pick who went to a very bad situation sadly...we've seen examples of two of those situations play out in Buffalo...don't reach for a qb or any player based on need

There's a reason that a general manager on a short leash and/or feeling pressure to make immediate impact is the most dangerous thing in sports. Also curious if we'll see any trades out of the top of the draft.

That would free up space for 2026 and 2027 then because the guarenteed money would accelerate into 2025 if they cut him at the end of 2024...there is a path to making a big contract work. Like I guess the question is really this...how many big contracts do you expect the bills to have going forward? Diggs is off the books next year and I expect Von to be off the books fully in 2026...I understand getting younger and all that, but it's hard finding elite value players in FA...and I mean hopefully they hit on one in the draft, but even that is a crap shoot and having more picks than less picks is the way to go there, but maybe it's not about finding stars in the draft other than obviously that's the hope, but pieces that fit your roster development player/contract type category needs and can be better than the slot you drafted them in.

What's Von Miller's salary vs dead cap if cut after this season? That was always going to be a three year deal basically right? I'm assuming most of the incentives they built into his reworked deal were the not likely to be achieved since he had such a down year... so that will eat into the 2025 cap a bit if he does hopefully hit all of them, but still I think any cap numbers for 2025 should be probably talked about as if Miller is cut before the new league year starts...Knox too maybe, but my hope is he had a down year because of the wrist

They have cap space next year and will get more after June 1st for this year, I would imagine they could make something work with a back loaded deal in terms of salary and void years and then restructure next year so it's not so back loaded... maybe, I'm not sure how it works

I didn't see the national anthem, but small pox blankets

Why is it relevant that it's owned by the NYT?

I'm not sure it's appropriate to have gambling conversations here. I was for the legalization of gambling, but the daily fantasy apps are highly predatory and designed to create dopamine addiction. The apps are exploitative and targeting young men specifically.

Absolutely given that context, woof. Is it possible that the Whitner pick was similar to the Preston Brown pick, where the game changed and had he been picked 5-10 years earlier he would have been much better (I think Preston Brown is the brusing MLB that was on the Bills while Kuechly and others were changing the position)

That's cool they're letting the 3rd qb be on the practice squad, thought it was silly to require them to be elevated last year

Wasn't a big reason for that that you could only bring up two players per game from the practice squad and they had injuries at other positions? I'd argue your punter playing against a top three defense in the cold is extremely important, but I also trust they understood the give and take with that decision and made it properly based on their calculations... that said, Martin, like Davis in the AFC champ game a bit back, was a huge liability.