HardyBoy

Right, except every lawyer will tell you you should never talk to police. It's none of their business where you are going, where you are coming from, etc. The only thing that can happen is you give them evidence to charge you with something, either what they are directly investigating, or some other thing because you don't know the law and could accidently implicate yourself either now, or later. The 4th and 5th amendments are there for a reason. The police aren't your friends. I'm not saying to be a jerk, but you have every right to ask if you are being detained and if not ask to leave...if they say yes, then you have every right to ask what you are being detained on and ask for a lawyer without saying another word. You really think Ed Oliver would get the same treatment if he did that as say Josh Allen? Come on, it really all boils down to black people are required to show respect to authority, where white people are already on equal standing. The idea avoiding the perception of disrespecting authority (oh the pearl clutching) at the expense of your constitutional rights...hilarious. And spare me the, "well don't call them if someone is robbing you if that is how you feel crap." That is their job, as is respecting and defending my constitutional rights, especially when it is inconvenient.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time computing living in fort lauderdale.

That's how mlb does it basically. A lot of those players are getting screwed over too for what it's worth, but in different ways: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2062307-an-inside-look-into-the-harsh-conditions-of-minor-league-baseball https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2018/4/20/17259846/minor-league-baseball-anti-labor-ronald-acuna-scott-kingery

I'd rather see a world cup style tournament,

Not sure if it's because nobody is really going to shows because of covid, or because it'll be 25 years since Jerry died, but this is the most I've seen people posting really heartfelt stuff during Days Between (his bday Aug 1st and his death Aug 9th). Not why I posted that lyric, just felt right to reference a song about a gambler whose been at it for ten years and is looking for their last shot...coulda gone with Loser too for sure, but wanted to go with the optimistic version to match the vibe of the thread I always think of the guy in Loser to be the same guy as in Deal, just a few years later, perhaps on his way to going down to the docks of the city, where his about to meet August West...

I've been gamblin' hereabouts for ten good solid years, if I told you all that went down it would burn off both of your ears. Goes to show, you don't ever know. Watch each card you play and play it slow, wait until that deal come round, don't you let that deal go down, no, no.

This is to important to mince words (and I'm still not saying near what I really want to say). There is a whole lot of ignorant up in here. This isn't about politics, other than a hell of a lot of people are parroting word for word what people in power are saying, and those people, to quote George Carlin "do not give a f*** about you." There legit might not be such a thing as asymptomatic cases...it's only asymptomatic if you're not searching for the right symptoms. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/brain-fog-heart-damage-covid-19-s-lingering-problems-alarm-scientists https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/506752-mild-cases-of-coronavirus-may-not-be-as-mild-as

This virus seems to magnify and cause inflammation too, you know kind of like what happens when you run into someone running full speed into you over and over. Also, the pain medicines (especially toridal (sp?), people are taking to play impact the liver and kidneys, which covid-19 attacks. I really hope the league has done their due diligence here, because this could end the league if they didn't (we followed the cdc guidelines isn't going to cut imo if this goes sideways with a bunch of lineman having significant impacts. Good one, now try something original

You think the MRI they did was the most definitive and final test before surgery (genuine question, I'm totally speculating here and looking to be taught)? Just the way I think of it is they would do a test with a low false negative rate, but high false positive and then refer to a specialist and the actual surgeon that would operate for the final really highly accurate (though expensive) test...guessing that would be a biopsy or something.

I don't see it like that. I am reading it like they did a preliminary scan saw something suspicious and told him to go get it checked out by his own doctor/specialist with a referral. As part of that they would have prepared him for it being anything from a benign cyst to untreatable cancer. It would be really weird if they used an MRI by an nfl medical team as the basis to cur someone open, especially their brain.

And that's where I think relegation and more so promotion would help. You're suddenly talking about small, but extremely dedicated fan bases entering the main league, and getting a huge influx of cash to bring in new players and upgrade facilities and all that. It would help with organic growth. The problem is the the premier league was built up organically, where the mls owners started the league and aren't about to watch the value of their franchise cut by some huge %. I live less than 10 minutes away from where the new Miami team was going to play in fort lauderdale while their real stadium is being built...such a bummer with covid (I mean it's not important ultimately, but still a bummer). Was gonna go to so many games, but now we're moving to Raleigh next month (getting the heck out of here with the mix of hurricanes, covid, two real young kids and a five hour drive off the peninsula when 6 million people aren't trying to evacuate)...looks like we are gonna get at least one more close call at best with Isaias before we go, and likely a few more the way this hurricane season has gone so far.

I went to a bunch of new england revolution games, they definitely have a great live fan base and they play out in Foxboro which is 40 min or whatever from Boston. Also, the lack of relegation I think hurts in the long run (though it's not possible for them to stay solvent as a league with relegation apparently). Imagine when Rochester won the gold cup that they got to get into the mls, and that would happen to a smaller team or two every season...you would super quickly see the enthusiasm in the league surge I think.

Nice, to each their own for sure. I do think you're likely in the minority watching lower quality football. Look at soccer...Americans eat up the english premier league, but the same level of interest isn't there with the mls...but as the quality of the mls has improved, so have the number of viewers. That said, the rochester rhinos crushed it back in the day, but I think Rochester is a sneaky underrated sports town (we had a pro nba team for crying out loud and an nba championship I believe). All that said, I might not be the best person to gauge sports interest these days...since I moved down to south florida, from boston (originally Rochester) I cut the cord and stopped watching pretty much all sports except the Bills and I will be die hard Sabres as soon as they get back to be decent (watched 20 games straight or so the last two seasons before the wheels fell off each time and it became depressing. I could tell you a lot of what was happening on each team in each of the main four sports before I moved down here. We're moving to Raleigh in a month or so, so maybe I'll get more into sports again, but now I have to little kids, so thinking prob not.

Why not just do a world cup like tournament? Even if they don't do the re-draw. Round robin against your division, top two teams go to elimination round. Have two games a night, like Sunday, Monday Thursday...then everyone gets abye week to start the knock out stages. Could be over and done with in a month or two and the tv revenue would be insane.

Squiggly playboy channel? Or super slow non broadband picture downloads on computers? I'm 36, I've basically straddled two worlds as a teenager (poor choice of words given the context), neither great...ask me anything

I mean bars are going to be closed, people aren't going to be able to watch out of local games. People are not going to have the money to spend on a luxury tv package either that locks them in to a higher second year cost either right now. Is the potential for either a la carte or fully free streams out of the question?

They are going to have to do something about Sunday Ticket though...

Haha, I'm pretty good at sarcasm and I can't tell if you're joking or serious, so well done, maybe? You're telling me you'd watch 4th pre-season games for an entire season for every team and game, you really would watch that? Hate to break this to you also, but the Bills never had the worst roster in the league, not really ever close except maybe the year before they drafted Mike Williams. They were consistently mediocre right around 7-9 every year, and were basically just missing a few pieces or better than replacement level depth at a few key positions because of cash to cap, and never got the lucky bounce to end up 9-7 and back into the playoffs because of the Pats. They could absolutely get the funding to start a league, think of that Shark Tank pitch. Granted the NBA would be the easiest to pull off.

"Take me where the whispering breeze is, I wanna feel my feet leave the ground If I could I would, but I don't know how..." Highly recommend listening, I know it's phish and whatever preconceptions, but Alisson Kraus is on this song (they were able to snag her for it in the early/mid 90s before she totally blew up):

I think that might be the issue in the end...if this can't be done safely, then the answer might be not to do it at all. If the nfl isn't brining that as an option to the table, showing data on both the short term and long term costs of a cancelled season, that to me does not show they are taking this seriously.

You realize 32% of the country wasn't able to pay July rent/mortgages fully right? Might not be the best line of argument you're taking here. Anyway, this is entertainment in the end, and there is a reason the arena league doesn't draw the same fans as the nfl...you put the best players in the world in the arena league it will be the most popular sport on tv. This billion dollar league is absolutely a function of the players, don't for a second think differently. They could all go on strike tomorrow and start their own league the next day, cut out the owners and make absolute bank...like serious life changing money across all segments of the roster. You think every other person in this country is able to do the same thing? Come on now, some random dude pushing a piece of paper or an email from an inbox to an outbox or laying a foundation for a building are not irreplaceable...even the best is not someone who is at a level of .01% of the population or whatever and what makes them that valuable isn't untrainable (sorry, you can't teach 4.3)

I think ultimately it comes down to people being frustrated with cash to cap.

Nah, suburban moms are about to start talking about it when it gets picked up on the today show and the view.

Yeah, so this seems like it is already in exponetial growth, just in the early phases so far. This statement from the nfl is going to give it a ton of visibility to people outside the football world.

Yeah, so this is long and a bit meta...I feel the same way btw on it not really getting me worked up because it's just so far out there and has me concerned he is having mental issues. Here's the long part: I wonder how much of this also plays into him being a minority and really not having that much actual agency to cause impacts. It honestly might be proving we have systemic racism. I promise I'm not trying to bend over backwards to make this about him actually being the victim here, it's just that what he said is so universally agreed on as being ridiculous that people aren't going to start a fight with each other on it, and that is what I find super interesting. So think of any statement as a ball, and the nature of the words describe the size of that ball. Totally neutral words/statements are tiny, say golf ball size for this example, and really powerful words/statements are huge, say a big beach ball. How much impact that ball has when it hits something is not described by the size of the ball alone...just like a single person screaming vile words in a room alone has no impact, the size of an individuals reach matters a ton, and in my example is how hard/dense the ball is. It is the difference between being hit by a hard baseball and a soft baseball...same words, same size ball, but because one has few people that will not just be able to hear the words, but also take action on those words (and the key is those people's actions will have actual impact). Compare that to someone who says the same words, but the people listening actually have the agency to make things happen. For example, if I'm calling on people to protest with social disobedience by walking on a highway to disrupt traffic and I have a reach of 10,000 who are super commited, but they are all in their 90s and in wheelchairs, I have a lot of reach, but ultimately those people have little agency. On the other hand, if someone else only has 100 people who listen, but they are both willing and able to walk on a highway, well you can close a highway with that reach, even though it is much less substantial (so I guess size of the ball is a factor of how powerful the words are and reach multiplied by agency, which gives you density). What I'm trying to say, first the words Jackson is saying are so out there that the people he is reaching with those words are really small, and the agency of the people who he is able to reach is small (would have to think you are in pretty rough financial shape if that type of scapegoating connects with you enough to take action, and money is power in our society). Brees on the other hand, the people resonating with what he said actually have true power (and I'm not looking to judge what he said, I have a personal opinion, but I'm focusing on the conceptual basis of why we might not be seeing the same level of pushback). The President of the United States might retweet what Brees said for crying outloud (that softball of saying he might retweet Jackson's tweet as well is so tempting as a joke, but I'll just tease it, because genuinely not looking to make this specific post about the validity of what people are saying, just why there might be more pushback based on the agency of the people that are impacted by the words). There are a lot of very powerful, extremely rich people who agree with Brees, so his words while having less size (using what you think is Hitler is way way bigger than words about the flag...and not saying what Brees said is positive or negative...size is not a factor of positive or negative, because I think the size of the words are equal regardless of the perspective of if they are seen as positive or negative by different groups, and that could be super interesting to see if words have the same size for people looking at it from different perspectives...would think equal sized balls on both sides lol, of an argument would magnify the reach), have more impact...the ball Brees' words generate is smaller, but so much more dense...like getting hit by a basketball vs a lacrosse ball going at the same speed. Anyway, that's my theory of why what Jackson said isn't getting more traction. The people who are reached by the words and moved to take action do not have the agency to really make any change, so it is ignored. I would imagine the majority of people who would be in that group are of lower socio-economic status, and likely black (admittedly assuming here), and poor black people have some of the lowest amount of agency in the country I would expect, which is exactly the reason for the fight to end systemic racism, because this should be a huge deal, but in my mind it is the lack of power the people listening to that message have is not a threat to enough people...wild, isn't that kind of the thing the Black Panthers and Malcolm X were saying and the reason for open carrying as a means of peaceful, though adversarial, protest? So I actually came up with a lot of that theory solving stuff in Excel and seeing a common concept in how I was solving increasingly complex problems and using that concepts to solve problems I couldn't solve in the past. I'm starting to take a graph theory course online too, because while I stumbled on it on my own, I think there is basically a whole wing of math dedicated to it.